Weston Richburg (retired)

^Can we stop putting Kyle in a box. He's shown he can adapt.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Ford and Blair once again are done for the year.

It's been a year since this guy last played. Is this guy going to play this season?

No, he was done the second he went down to another major injury.

So, he had shoulder surgery then injured his knee. That's pretty unlucky but is due for a big number next year.

Originally posted by Hopper:

^Can we stop putting Kyle in a box. He's shown he can adapt.

There's a difference in adapting to scheme (carry 4 Arby's, TE is the WR1, YAC God's) and team building philosophy. From Mike to Kyle, this is their blue print.

He didn't change it even after a Superbowl loss. He's not going to change it now.

But I hope he does!

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

The idea that it wont or cant be a rookie is utter horse s**t. People need to stop stating opinions like facts.

Of course it's my opinion. What am I supposed to do, put IMO after every post just so you feel better that I've differentiated between a fact and an opinion?

Seriously, get a grip. It's a fan forum talking about next year where none of us have any control. Everything is opinion. It shouldn't need to be clarified...IMO.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Of course it's injury dependent, but the cap savings from Richburg aren't going to get you much in FA so you're paying more for the position overall if you want to upgrade.

From everything we've seen from Kyle/Lynch a high draft pick rookie C seems very unlikely. I just don't see that happening at all.

That leaves us with either paying a lot for another C in a year where we can't really afford to, taking a downgrade to get a cheaper deal, or trading for a young C on a friendly contract who just hasn't clicked with his current team.

So yeah, if he comes back next year healthy I say it's a high probability that he's our starting C.

.....IMO

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Of course it's injury dependent, but the cap savings from Richburg aren't going to get you much in FA so you're paying more for the position overall if you want to upgrade.

From everything we've seen from Kyle/Lynch a high draft pick rookie C seems very unlikely. I just don't see that happening at all.

That leaves us with either paying a lot for another C in a year where we can't really afford to, taking a downgrade to get a cheaper deal, or trading for a young C on a friendly contract who just hasn't clicked with his current team.

So yeah, if he comes back next year healthy I say it's a high probability that he's our starting C.

.....IMO

How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you have absolutely no clue what Richburg will look like when he finally recovers from this injury assuming he does at all.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Of course it's injury dependent, but the cap savings from Richburg aren't going to get you much in FA so you're paying more for the position overall if you want to upgrade.

From everything we've seen from Kyle/Lynch a high draft pick rookie C seems very unlikely. I just don't see that happening at all.

That leaves us with either paying a lot for another C in a year where we can't really afford to, taking a downgrade to get a cheaper deal, or trading for a young C on a friendly contract who just hasn't clicked with his current team.

So yeah, if he comes back next year healthy I say it's a high probability that he's our starting C.

.....IMO

How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you have absolutely no clue what Richburg will look like when he finally recovers from this injury assuming he does at all.

I'm not a doctor nor have I got Richburgs medical report in my hand.

I already said "if he's healthy" as a condition, and that we don't know right now.

The reason why I consider it a downgrade is that I don't believe we'll be able to upgrade with the cap savings we get from him so at the very least our OLine stays the same level or gets worse with us paying the same or more.

That's what I believe, that's what I'm guessing - that's my opinion.

...IMO.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Of course it's injury dependent, but the cap savings from Richburg aren't going to get you much in FA so you're paying more for the position overall if you want to upgrade.

From everything we've seen from Kyle/Lynch a high draft pick rookie C seems very unlikely. I just don't see that happening at all.

That leaves us with either paying a lot for another C in a year where we can't really afford to, taking a downgrade to get a cheaper deal, or trading for a young C on a friendly contract who just hasn't clicked with his current team.

So yeah, if he comes back next year healthy I say it's a high probability that he's our starting C.

.....IMO

How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you have absolutely no clue what Richburg will look like when he finally recovers from this injury assuming he does at all.

I'm not a doctor nor have I got Richburgs medical report in my hand.

I already said "if he's healthy" as a condition, and that we don't know right now.

The reason why I consider it a downgrade is that I don't believe we'll be able to upgrade with the cap savings we get from him so at the very least our OLine stays the same level or gets worse with us paying the same or more.

That's what I believe, that's what I'm guessing - that's my opinion.

...IMO.

Which is why I said assuming he recovers. But you didn't answer my question. How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you really don't know how Richburg will perform on the field coming off an injury that's cost him a year and a half of football. If he's a shell of what he used to be your assumption that a cheaper option would be an automatic downgrade would look completely foolish.

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by SFrush:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

FA centers are only available because they are past their prime or want too much money. I'd rather have a talented rookie than an over the hill broke down center that takes up cap space.

Correct, and I doubt we take a rookie C who is ready to go from the start.

Therefore there's a very high probability that Richburg is our starting C next year until he gets injured.

I don't think that's a high probability at all.

Then who's our C?

It won't be a rookie.

If it's a FA it's someone past their prime because we're not paying top dollar with all our other FA needs

And if it's someone already on the roster then we're going to have the same OL issues next year as this.

That's impossible to answer to right now but that doesn't make it a high probability it will be Richburg who is not recovering well from this patella Injury and to go along with being a likely cap casualty.

Of course it's injury dependent, but the cap savings from Richburg aren't going to get you much in FA so you're paying more for the position overall if you want to upgrade.

From everything we've seen from Kyle/Lynch a high draft pick rookie C seems very unlikely. I just don't see that happening at all.

That leaves us with either paying a lot for another C in a year where we can't really afford to, taking a downgrade to get a cheaper deal, or trading for a young C on a friendly contract who just hasn't clicked with his current team.

So yeah, if he comes back next year healthy I say it's a high probability that he's our starting C.

.....IMO

How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you have absolutely no clue what Richburg will look like when he finally recovers from this injury assuming he does at all.

I'm not a doctor nor have I got Richburgs medical report in my hand.

I already said "if he's healthy" as a condition, and that we don't know right now.

The reason why I consider it a downgrade is that I don't believe we'll be able to upgrade with the cap savings we get from him so at the very least our OLine stays the same level or gets worse with us paying the same or more.

That's what I believe, that's what I'm guessing - that's my opinion.

...IMO.

Which is why I said assuming he recovers. But you didn't answer my question. How do you know what's considered a downgrade when you really don't know how Richburg will perform on the field coming off an injury that's cost him a year and a half of football. If he's a shell of what he used to be your assumption that a cheaper option would be an automatic downgrade would look completely foolish.

Do you know how opinions/projecting works? EVERY opinion/projection looks foolish if it's proven wrong. We have 1000's of pages of Jimmy G that will atest to that.

I'be been wrong tons of times before, and I will be wrong tons of times again. That's not going to stop me from giving my opinion and I've given it.

There's really nothing more to add.

I never thought Richburg was anything special even when healthy. Last year we led the league in rushing with Garland at center. Time to move on.

Originally posted by 951NINER:

I never thought Richburg was anything special even when healthy. Last year we led the league in rushing with Garland at center. Time to move on.

When he went down last year, the pass protection crumbled. Agree with your overall take. He's solid, but always hurt, just like in NY.

Originally posted by 951NINER:
I never thought Richburg was anything special even when healthy. Last year we led the league in rushing with Garland at center. Time to move on.

this is so true. good job

Trash

Having had the same injury I really feel for Richburg, I'm 3 years down the line and still not running properly. Obviously he has much better access to treatment, and is a superior athlete but it does take time.

I'd like him to get a shot back on the field before we talk replacement, but that might not happen.

I would draft a developmental guy with some guard flexibility in the 3rd or thereabouts.