Weston Richburg (retired)

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"Should be back in training camp," Richburg told NBC Sports Bay Area on the team's locker cleanout day. "I'll miss the offseason stuff but training camp should be a go."

Too bad we can't have an answer before the draft. And I still think we should draft a OG/C with pass-blocking skills.

Totally. I know NY and Phoenix and others are staying to hon in on those guys in the draft.

I'm just gonna be realistic and assume Kyle isn't going IOL with his first pick (even in a trade down).

- Ruiz and Cushenberry would be an ideal pick (in a trade down). Both fit what we do and have a chance to start day 1.

-Nick Harris is a stud zone-blocker and has nasty in him. got worked in one on ones at the SB which will drop him. Not sure if he's a guy that can play guard either.

- Matt Hennessy fit's this offense very well, I have no idea where he goes in the draft. Not sure how he would be at guard either. I think they worked him at OG at the SB at some pt.

-Netane Muti would be awesome in SF BUT his health is a huge ??

-Biadasz regressed this yr and his draft stock is showing because of it. Might drop to day 3.

-Jonah Jackson killed people at the Senior Bowl. His stock went flying up. He might be the first pure OG to get drafted.

Those are a couple early guys off the top of my head...point is there aren't really any top end studs. I won't be shocked if an IOL doesn't get drafted in the first.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

They would have taken a major hit financially by cutting him so they restructured him and saved a good chunk of money . Reakky no point in cutting him now especially if he is slated to be back by TC. Draft some competition though

Originally posted by NYniner85:

He just restructured. They aren't moving off him nor should they.

Got it. I wasnt aware there was a restructure. I think he is a stud when healthy, so I totally get why we wouldnt want to move off of him. I just personally hate it when the team I root for counts on injury prone players to be key parts of the team.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"Should be back in training camp," Richburg told NBC Sports Bay Area on the team's locker cleanout day. "I'll miss the offseason stuff but training camp should be a go."

Too bad we can't have an answer before the draft. And I still think we should draft a OG/C with pass-blocking skills.

You said the same thing last year and sure enough he came back 100%. If the staff doesn't feel he will be good to go then I'm sure they will plan accordingly

Yes I did say the same thing and we got lucky, because quite frankly per reports Kyle wasn't sure (why signed Garland, because Person can also play OC). Why is that such a difficult concept for oft injured players - luck. Jimmy Ward held up most of the season too. Who here wants to sign Ward to a 5-year deal as and depend on him as a starter? Ward even played longer that Richburg so does that mean he's suddenly durable? Thank goodness Ben Garland was serviceable and Benson more than earned his role. But let's not ignore that we also schemed around deficiencies too. Again, do not depend on Richburg. Draft a OG/C who can compete for starting role at RG and even compete in a year for OC.

What you are describing is not luck
First I'm hearing that Kyle wasn't sure. And if he wasn't sure and thought he needed a new C, Garland was the plan? Doubt it. Very good backup, but I'm sure that would not have been plan A if there was serious concerns about Richburgs return.... which was proven when he returned 100%

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"Should be back in training camp," Richburg told NBC Sports Bay Area on the team's locker cleanout day. "I'll miss the offseason stuff but training camp should be a go."

Too bad we can't have an answer before the draft. And I still think we should draft a OG/C with pass-blocking skills.

You said the same thing last year and sure enough he came back 100%. If the staff doesn't feel he will be good to go then I'm sure they will plan accordingly

Yes I did say the same thing and we got lucky, because quite frankly per reports Kyle wasn't sure (why signed Garland, because Person can also play OC). Why is that such a difficult concept for oft injured players - luck. Jimmy Ward held up most of the season too. Who here wants to sign Ward to a 5-year deal as and depend on him as a starter? Ward even played longer that Richburg so does that mean he's suddenly durable?

Thank goodness Ben Garland was serviceable and Benson more than earned his paycheck and needs a raise. But let's not ignore that we also schemed around deficiencies too. Again, do not depend on Richburg. Draft a OG/C who can compete for starting role at RG and even compete in a year for OC. So yep, you will continue to hear me throwing all kinds of skepticism on starters in critical roles who are oft injured and when they miss time cause detriment to the team.

Ask me if I think Richburg starting in the Super Bowl would have helped our pass pro....

what does richburg starting in the SB have to do with last seasons injury and their offseason?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

I'm just gonna be realistic and assume Kyle isn't going IOL with his first pick (even in a trade down).

- Ruiz and Cushenberry would be an ideal pick (in a trade down). Both fit what we do and have a chance to start day 1.

-Nick Harris is a stud zone-blocker and has nasty in him. got worked in one on ones at the SB which will drop him. Not sure if he's a guy that can play guard either.

- Matt Hennessy fit's this offense very well, I have no idea where he goes in the draft. Not sure how he would be at guard either. I think they worked him at OG at the SB at some pt.

-Netane Muti would be awesome in SF BUT his health is a huge ??

-Biadasz regressed this yr and his draft stock is showing because of it. Might drop to day 3.

-Jonah Jackson killed people at the Senior Bowl. His stock went flying up. He might be the first pure OG to get drafted.

Those are a couple early guys off the top of my head...point is there aren't really any top end studs. I won't be shocked if an IOL doesn't get drafted in the first.

Wow, thanks for this. Yes, I'm safely assuming the same. I'm more hoping first or second round "talent" (for OZ/IZ) that we can get later after a trade back and Benton can mold into a starter long term.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
"Should be back in training camp," Richburg told NBC Sports Bay Area on the team's locker cleanout day. "I'll miss the offseason stuff but training camp should be a go."

Too bad we can't have an answer before the draft. And I still think we should draft a OG/C with pass-blocking skills.

You said the same thing last year and sure enough he came back 100%. If the staff doesn't feel he will be good to go then I'm sure they will plan accordingly

Yes I did say the same thing and we got lucky, because quite frankly per reports Kyle wasn't sure (why signed Garland, because Person can also play OC). Why is that such a difficult concept for oft injured players - luck. Jimmy Ward held up most of the season too. Who here wants to sign Ward to a 5-year deal as and depend on him as a starter? Ward even played longer that Richburg so does that mean he's suddenly durable?

Thank goodness Ben Garland was serviceable and Benson more than earned his paycheck and needs a raise. But let's not ignore that we also schemed around deficiencies too. Again, do not depend on Richburg. Draft a OG/C who can compete for starting role at RG and even compete in a year for OC. So yep, you will continue to hear me throwing all kinds of skepticism on starters in critical roles who are oft injured and when they miss time cause detriment to the team.

Ask me if I think Richburg starting in the Super Bowl would have helped our pass pro....

what does richburg starting in the SB have to do with last seasons injury and their offseason?

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Lol last seasons injury had nothing to do with this seasons. Just because you were skeptical that he was going to return last season does not equate to being lucky because he came back 100%. That's why they have medical staffs monitoring these guys.
Nor He was he injury prone prior to the quad. Now with 3 seasons being cut short by injury, yes now you can make that claim. And you won't find anyone saying they shouldn't invest in some OL. The original point of contention was you questioning him being back by TC, I simply pointed out you were saying the same thing last year and were wrong.

The passing game suffered when we lost Richburg, especially with Kittle having to block more

I think we can all agree they need to add some IOL talent and a future replacement at C with Richburg questionable health

Wow, back for training camp is huge. Must have been a minor version of that injury.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

I think we can all agree they need to add some IOL talent and a future replacement at C with Richburg questionable health

Interior OL specifically a guard that can play center or vice versa is our number 1 priority. Over cb and s imo. Also, guards and centers usually are a later drafted position usually so at the end of the first round or if we trade down we may be able to get a top 3 player

Are we positive Staley is coming back? If he isn't is Skule the guy? It's something that can't be ignored.

I agree that interior O line is priority #1. Jimmy ain't getting any more mobile, and you can only scheme around it for so long.

Originally posted by Faithful4ever:

Are we positive Staley is coming back?

Yes. He's been very clear that he wants to play through the end of his contract (two more seasons, theough 2021 season).

I'm not a big Richburg fan. I don't think he's worth his contract. But the reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated. Yes, a patellar tendon rupture is a difficult injury. But he will be fine. This isn't 1985.

He should be cleared for TC if he is following a standard recovery timeline. It's true he may not feel 100% until November. But that is a far cry from "his career is done".

Originally posted by elguapo:
Interior OL specifically a guard that can play center or vice versa is our number 1 priority. Over cb and s imo. Also, guards and centers usually are a later drafted position usually so at the end of the first round or if we trade down we may be able to get a top 3 player

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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

I think we can all agree they need to add some IOL talent and a future replacement at C with Richburg questionable health

Hell to the yes.