Rep the Red & Gold: Shop 49ers Gear →

There are 505 users in the forums

What will it take to NEVER have to Totally Rebuild Again?

Shop Find 49ers gear online
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Seems that every consistent winning team has a great QB. Dynasty's have a great QB and HC. Great HCs are quirky, are hard to deal with and get the attention of the media. If an Owner + GM can't play 2nd fiddle to them then they lose their dynasty (Jerry Jones, York and Baalke).
It's sad that Harbs help draw the base that built Levi's. Now that Jed is older I'm wondering if he would have chosen differently.

The Steelers have had three coaches over the past five decades. The 49ers have had four head coaches over the past four years.
It's the Yorks, they are the anti-Rooneys and it shows in the winning % of each ownership.
its was 40ish years since they won a championship, then they drafted big Ben. How many QBs did they go through since Bradshaw ?

ownership looking good is solely on the QB they currently have

LMAO, come on man.
They won and they won and they won. Ownership looks good based on stability, winning %, playoff appearances and Super Bowls won.
Let's look at the Pittsburgh Steelers over the past 45 years...
Record: 512-267 (66%)
Playoff Appearances: 28 (only 17 missed playoffs)
Super Bowl Appearances: 8
Super Bowl Wins: 6

The Steelers have appeared ina Superbowl in 4 of the past 5 decades including the past three.

But hey, the only thing separating the Yorks from the Rooneys is Big Ben, amirite?
like i said what happened in the 26 year drought ? Big Ben is the difference maker

name another team that can maintain winning without a franchise QB


I thought it was a 40 year drought?
I will tell you what happened in those lean years, 20 winning seasons, only 5 losing seasons and 14 playoff appearances. How does that compare to the York era?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Seems that every consistent winning team has a great QB. Dynasty's have a great QB and HC. Great HCs are quirky, are hard to deal with and get the attention of the media. If an Owner + GM can't play 2nd fiddle to them then they lose their dynasty (Jerry Jones, York and Baalke).
It's sad that Harbs help draw the base that built Levi's. Now that Jed is older I'm wondering if he would have chosen differently.

The Steelers have had three coaches over the past five decades. The 49ers have had four head coaches over the past four years.
It's the Yorks, they are the anti-Rooneys and it shows in the winning % of each ownership.
its was 40ish years since they won a championship, then they drafted big Ben. How many QBs did they go through since Bradshaw ?

ownership looking good is solely on the QB they currently have
1980 to 2006 is not 40ish years....the 49ers on the other hand are at 22 years since our last with no hope in sight compared to the steelers who have a shot this year to extend their already league leading 6 SB wins.
ok 26 years. thanks for the correction. The major factor is QB, not the Franchise.

All current winning Franchises have their long term QB

The Steelers have had three head coaches since the 1960s. That must be "solely on the QB they currently have".
You forgot how many times Cohwer was on the edge of being fired. But cool so they stuck with their HCs that respectable

LMAO, irrelevant.
  • jcs
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 39,851
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Seems that every consistent winning team has a great QB. Dynasty's have a great QB and HC. Great HCs are quirky, are hard to deal with and get the attention of the media. If an Owner + GM can't play 2nd fiddle to them then they lose their dynasty (Jerry Jones, York and Baalke).
It's sad that Harbs help draw the base that built Levi's. Now that Jed is older I'm wondering if he would have chosen differently.

The Steelers have had three coaches over the past five decades. The 49ers have had four head coaches over the past four years.
It's the Yorks, they are the anti-Rooneys and it shows in the winning % of each ownership.
its was 40ish years since they won a championship, then they drafted big Ben. How many QBs did they go through since Bradshaw ?

ownership looking good is solely on the QB they currently have

LMAO, come on man.
They won and they won and they won. Ownership looks good based on stability, winning %, playoff appearances and Super Bowls won.
Let's look at the Pittsburgh Steelers over the past 45 years...
Record: 512-267 (66%)
Playoff Appearances: 28 (only 17 missed playoffs)
Super Bowl Appearances: 8
Super Bowl Wins: 6

The Steelers have appeared ina Superbowl in 4 of the past 5 decades including the past three.

But hey, the only thing separating the Yorks from the Rooneys is Big Ben, amirite?
like i said what happened in the 26 year drought ? Big Ben is the difference maker

name another team that can maintain winning without a franchise QB

They won 197 games during that drought...avg 8 wins a season for 26 years. Had a coupe of rebuilding years in the middle with 5-6 wins but also had several 12+ win seasons. They were the best team in their division 9 times during that stretch. Big Bens 1st SB win was a team win too...he only managed 123 yards that game with 2 INT's and a 22 rating for the game.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Seems that every consistent winning team has a great QB. Dynasty's have a great QB and HC. Great HCs are quirky, are hard to deal with and get the attention of the media. If an Owner + GM can't play 2nd fiddle to them then they lose their dynasty (Jerry Jones, York and Baalke).
It's sad that Harbs help draw the base that built Levi's. Now that Jed is older I'm wondering if he would have chosen differently.

The Steelers have had three coaches over the past five decades. The 49ers have had four head coaches over the past four years.
It's the Yorks, they are the anti-Rooneys and it shows in the winning % of each ownership.
its was 40ish years since they won a championship, then they drafted big Ben. How many QBs did they go through since Bradshaw ?

ownership looking good is solely on the QB they currently have

LMAO, come on man.
They won and they won and they won. Ownership looks good based on stability, winning %, playoff appearances and Super Bowls won.
Let's look at the Pittsburgh Steelers over the past 45 years...
Record: 512-267 (66%)
Playoff Appearances: 28 (only 17 missed playoffs)
Super Bowl Appearances: 8
Super Bowl Wins: 6

The Steelers have appeared ina Superbowl in 4 of the past 5 decades including the past three.

But hey, the only thing separating the Yorks from the Rooneys is Big Ben, amirite?
like i said what happened in the 26 year drought ? Big Ben is the difference maker

name another team that can maintain winning without a franchise QB


I thought it was a 40 year drought?
I will tell you what happened in those lean years, 20 winning seasons, only 5 losing seasons and 14 playoff appearances. How does that compare to the York era?
i my dates were off.. but Do you think they raise wining season banners or whatever ? No

7 out of 17, i guess we have another 9 seasons to compare
Its impossible not to eventually collapse, players age, coaches lose touch, GMs eventually fail. Sooner or later every team has a down period.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Its impossible not to eventually collapse, players age, coaches lose touch, GMs eventually fail. Sooner or later every team has a down period.

Down periods for the Steelers still mean going to the playoffs most years and twice as a 4-1 ratio of winning seasons to losing seasons.
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Its impossible not to eventually collapse, players age, coaches lose touch, GMs eventually fail. Sooner or later every team has a down period.

I'm betting Bellechik retires when Brady does.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Assassination of the Yorks.

What?!?!
Stop with the coaching turnovers. Give Lynch and Shanahan time. Even Salegh needs to stay. Bringing in a new DC/scheme might hurt us more.
Patience.

From ownership AND fans.

But especially fans...
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Give sus and I 3 drafts, we'll have this team back in the ship.


How appropriate.
Originally posted by reasonable1:
Patience.

From ownership AND fans.

But especially fans...

Everyone has their limits.

Banners will return if the losing is the same next season.
Open Menu Search Share 49ersWebzone