Keep in mind Jed York is a business man, he is not a football man, he cares about ROI

Originally posted by pahlerbj:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

That 11% or what ever % gets rolled over. if they don't roll that % over it's gets distributed to the league as shared revenue

No it doesn't.

League wide all teams need to spend at least 95% of the cap. Per team is 89%. Only way money is distributed back to the players is if the league wide min is not met.

Story problem time.

Rams have $1000 to spend for team lunch and they spend $995 on some Jimmy Johns.
49ers have $1000 to spend for team lunch and they spend $890 on subway.

How much did Jed save by buying subway?

lol

None, And nothing has been getting pocketed as we have been rolling it over, all of it

It's unused funds. We put this to bed like two years ago when you guys were arguing about it in the AB thread.

yeah it's Rolled over

In bold up there, what you said is 100% false.

They can choose to roll over some or none or all depending how they want to manipulate the cap.

Shared revenue is the combined avg of 31 teams. Plus the Cowboys revenue.

if it was false then they don't need to roll over anything even if they met the 89%

Yeah that's exactly how it is. Most teams are well over the spending min. Only six teams have $20m in cap space right now.

It's why the Rams only rolled over $300k while the 49ers rolled over $38m

lol

what?

Rams rolled over 300k when they could have just pocketed it ?

The point is the Rams were close to the cap limit and only rolled over what they wanted to. Because they already used most of their limit.

This is an example of a team using 99% of it's cap space. While the 49ers use 89%.

The money is either a used fund or unused fund. If you love the word pocket do this, meaning it either leaves the teams "pocket" or it says in the teams "pocket". It doesn't ever leave the "pocket" and then come back to the "pocket".

lol

whats the lol for.

and Funds ?

Cause for some reason you can't just say oh, ok. I got it now. You keep talking in circles when you're wrong about something.

You are not following. The team doesn't "pocket" Woos word. Teams need to roll over any amount or lose it.

You are not following. Never said they did pocket it. Others have. That's wrong. They don't need to roll over. They can. It's not lost. It's just unused.

Paraag has manipulated the cap to spend the second least amount over the last few years. This is why they have the second most to spend in cap space. It's pretty simple.

so where was i wrong. These "unused funds" are only kept and remained unused if the team rolls it over

Just because a team chooses to spend 90% doesn't mean the rest is automatically rolled over.
The team has to decide how much they want to add to the next years cap space if any.

As long as the min % are met nothing gets distributed back to the league if a % is not used. It's a sum added or subtracted to get to a adjusted cap. That's why each teams adjusted cap number is different from the $167m the league set.

Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

I can't read the original post lol

Originally posted by HereWeGoAgain:
Which is it

York is cheap for not using all of the cap

York cares so much he still has every head coach from Walsh to Chip on the payroll

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

That 11% or what ever % gets rolled over. if they don't roll that % over it's gets distributed to the league as shared revenue

No it doesn't.

League wide all teams need to spend at least 95% of the cap. Per team is 89%. Only way money is distributed back to the players is if the league wide min is not met.

Story problem time.

Rams have $1000 to spend for team lunch and they spend $995 on some Jimmy Johns.
49ers have $1000 to spend for team lunch and they spend $890 on subway.

How much did Jed save by buying subway?

lol

None, And nothing has been getting pocketed as we have been rolling it over, all of it

It's unused funds. We put this to bed like two years ago when you guys were arguing about it in the AB thread.

yeah it's Rolled over

In bold up there, what you said is 100% false.

They can choose to roll over some or none or all depending how they want to manipulate the cap.

Shared revenue is the combined avg of 31 teams. Plus the Cowboys revenue.

if it was false then they don't need to roll over anything even if they met the 89%

Yeah that's exactly how it is. Most teams are well over the spending min. Only six teams have $20m in cap space right now.

It's why the Rams only rolled over $300k while the 49ers rolled over $38m

lol

what?

Rams rolled over 300k when they could have just pocketed it ?

The point is the Rams were close to the cap limit and only rolled over what they wanted to. Because they already used most of their limit.

This is an example of a team using 99% of it's cap space. While the 49ers use 89%.

The money is either a used fund or unused fund. If you love the word pocket do this, meaning it either leaves the teams "pocket" or it says in the teams "pocket". It doesn't ever leave the "pocket" and then come back to the "pocket".

lol

whats the lol for.

and Funds ?

Cause for some reason you can't just say oh, ok. I got it now. You keep talking in circles when you're wrong about something.

You are not following. The team doesn't "pocket" Woos word. Teams need to roll over any amount or lose it.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

The Jed York threads are where all the whiners go to congregate and pat each other on the back

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

The players salary cap is determined by a % of all shared revenue. The unused amount is not shared. Players salaries are not part of team revenue.

Further more the 89% team spending rule is over a 4 year term. The new spending window is from 2017-2020.

If the 49ers want to spend only 75% of the cap in 2017 they can. As long as they end up spending the 89% by the end of 2020 they pay nothing back to any players.

Nothing of what you're saying is part of a teams shared revenue.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

The players salary cap is determined by a % of all shared revenue. The unused amount is not shared. Players salaries are not part of team revenue.

Further more the 89% team spending rule is over a 4 year term. The new spending window is from 2017-2020.

If the 49ers want to spend only 75% of the cap in 2017 they can. As long as they end up spending the 89% by the end of 2020 they pay nothing back to any players.

Nothing of what you're saying is part of a teams shared revenue.

So shared revenue thats not used is not shared revenue anymore ?

again if that were true then no one would roll it over.

Originally posted by Niners99:

He ate like 60 million in failed 1-and-done coaches. Obviously he cares about winning more than making money. York is a dork, dont get me wrong, but he would've just stuck with Tomsula or Chip Kelly if he wanted to be a cheapskate.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

The players salary cap is determined by a % of all shared revenue. The unused amount is not shared. Players salaries are not part of team revenue.

Further more the 89% team spending rule is over a 4 year term. The new spending window is from 2017-2020.

If the 49ers want to spend only 75% of the cap in 2017 they can. As long as they end up spending the 89% by the end of 2020 they pay nothing back to any players.

Nothing of what you're saying is part of a teams shared revenue.

So shared revenue thats not used is not shared revenue anymore ?

again if that were true then no one would roll it over.

About 60% of revenue is shared, mostly from the shared national TV contracts.
Salaries are paid after revenue has been shared.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

The players salary cap is determined by a % of all shared revenue. The unused amount is not shared. Players salaries are not part of team revenue.

Further more the 89% team spending rule is over a 4 year term. The new spending window is from 2017-2020.

If the 49ers want to spend only 75% of the cap in 2017 they can. As long as they end up spending the 89% by the end of 2020 they pay nothing back to any players.

Nothing of what you're saying is part of a teams shared revenue.

So shared revenue thats not used is not shared revenue anymore ?

again if that were true then no one would roll it over.

About 60% of revenue is shared, mostly from the shared national TV contracts.
Salaries are paid after revenue has been shared.

thank you brick

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Revenue is revenue. and this type of Rev it's shared.

The players salary cap is determined by a % of all shared revenue. The unused amount is not shared. Players salaries are not part of team revenue.

Further more the 89% team spending rule is over a 4 year term. The new spending window is from 2017-2020.

If the 49ers want to spend only 75% of the cap in 2017 they can. As long as they end up spending the 89% by the end of 2020 they pay nothing back to any players.

Nothing of what you're saying is part of a teams shared revenue.

So shared revenue thats not used is not shared revenue anymore ?

again if that were true then no one would roll it over.

About 60% of revenue is shared, mostly from the shared national TV contracts.
Salaries are paid after revenue has been shared.

thank you brick

I am not sure why you are struggling to grasp what SoCold is explaining.

Originally posted by Viperboy:

Originally posted by Niners99:
He ate like 60 million in failed 1-and-done coaches. Obviously he cares about winning more than making money. York is a dork, dont get me wrong, but he would've just stuck with Tomsula or Chip Kelly if he wanted to be a cheapskate.

LOL, Denise ate it

Originally posted by jcs:
Wining handed them a billion dollar stadium...IMO they don't care about championships but they also don't want this team to be the browns either as it hurts the bottom line.

Originally posted by FL9er:

Originally posted by jcs:
Wining handed them a billion dollar stadium...IMO they don't care about championships but they also don't want this team to be the browns either as it hurts the bottom line.