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Coaches Film Analysis: 2017 Season

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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
It seems to me this coverage is more successful for the Niners. Why does Saleh go away from this alignment when he's facing a hurry-up? I don't know the answer, but just asking guys cause you guys have an eye for film...

The previous play, they were called for delay of game, and that put them in long yardage. I also think the previous hit by Marsh (that was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct) may have affected him a bit. I think we were having a bit of a success getting to him in the top half of the 2nd quarter, and that resulted in the tip and Johnson interception. But towards the end of the game, I get the feeling that the 49ers were on the field a long time (they got the onside back) and our pass rush was just tired at the end of the game and at the end of the first half. I think Saleh is not utilizing the overall quickness of the DLine by foregoing the stunts by the DE and DT. Specifically Marsh and Thomas. I think they could be very effective doing that on 3rd and longs. I hope they bring the heat in the Rams game, specially if the Rams are behind.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
It seems to me this coverage is more successful for the Niners. Why does Saleh go away from this alignment when he's facing a hurry-up? I don't know the answer, but just asking guys cause you guys have an eye for film...

The previous play, they were called for delay of game, and that put them in long yardage. I also think the previous hit by Marsh (that was flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct) may have affected him a bit. I think we were having a bit of a success getting to him in the top half of the 2nd quarter, and that resulted in the tip and Johnson interception. But towards the end of the game, I get the feeling that the 49ers were on the field a long time (they got the onside back) and our pass rush was just tired at the end of the game and at the end of the first half. I think Saleh is not utilizing the overall quickness of the DLine by foregoing the stunts by the DE and DT. Specifically Marsh and Thomas. I think they could be very effective doing that on 3rd and longs. I hope they bring the heat in the Rams game, specially if the Rams are behind.

Interesting take. I hadn't seen enough of Marsh to make make a judgment so I trust your observation(s). Does the hurry-up force Saleh from substituting his role players? I agree too that I hope he brings the heat.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Remember, that's a 3rd string tackle(who's actually a guard) playing in that spot. We were down Brown, then lost our backup and our other backup, so 4th string, really against the league leader in sacks. You can't always keep your QB clean and your QB has to be able to make plays like this. That's what separates QB's in this league.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
so, to give the defenders some love.



This is a play that should look really familiar from the Harbaugh days. Jon gruden calls this "96 power". I high school when I played RB we called it "26 power". Same thing, just a different number for the back. It's a power play through the "6" hole(outside the RT). You get down blocks away from the play with a backside guard pulling and leading through the hole. The FB has a kickout block on the first guy he sees and the guard is responsible for sealing the first LB that shows in the hole.



I also played LB and the one thing I was good at was this, filling the hole quickly. As a LB you have to be able to read the lineman in front of you and fill the hole aggressively against a power run. When you see that guard fire out with a low hat and z down, you have to realize there's going to be either a blocker or RB coming through that hole really soon. Your job is to fill that hole immediately. Foster's reaction is really fast.



props to Reid here on taking on the FB. That guy has probably 20 lbs or more on him and he stands him up. The only thing different I'd like to see is in the next frame. I'd like to see Foster take on that block with his inside shoulder to force any possible cuts back inside to his helper, Coyle. Willis was great at this and gave Bow a ton of tackles this way.



But when you can take out the guard and tackle the RB for a 1 yard loss, hard to argue with that....


My gosh, Reuben is quick to recognize and quicker to beat both OG and RB. Dang that was impressive. Sure didn't see that before your gifs. Fantastic jD.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Did you notice what he did? His first key was the MLB #44. He saw him sprint to the side and then that alerted him to immediately look for the middle route. Saw that was well covered but since he already has an idea where the LB went to, he knew he could make a throw to the sidelines where only his WR will catch it or it will be incomplete. BUT, a big ass but, is the Jimmy G cheat code because not many QB's can get the ball off that quick while barely looking to see where the WR is and get it there with enough velocity so that the DB cannot jump the route and pick it...and avoid the sack. He possibly could have thrown it in a tight window to 88 but that would have been tough. With your own endzone to your back, probably better to throw it towards the sidelines.

The one injured player I wanted Baalke to draft and he passes on Myles Jack
Originally posted by Joecool:
Damn, with the pat of the ball, he still releases it quicker than almost any other QB in the league.


I would like to know who has a quicker release this guy is pretty quick!
  • thl408
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JAC starts this drive with 1:40 left in the half, ball on the 20. It was frustrating to see them march down the field and score a TD to get some momentum going into halftime. They used gains of 14, 24, and 20 to get it done.
After an offensive holding, 2nd & 16. Favorable down and distance for the defense. 49ers go Cover 1 Robber with LHall coming down. Similar call to the DJ pick 6.


Yellow drag being targeted and Hall needs to close down fast on it.


Hall takes a bad angle.


+14. Sets up a 3rd & 1.
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Same drive. After converting the 3rd & 1.
Shallow Cross vs Cover3


Foster vertically stretched.


Hall dives and misses the tackle.


+24


oh 33 year old safety
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Very next play. Coming out of a timeout. No presnap motion from JAC.
Notice the TE and RB in the backfield. Reid head up on the TE, Foster with the RB.




Both Reid and Foster take the TE who is pass blocking.


+20. You can see Foster throw his arms up wondering wth. If Reid and Foster are supposed to read the release of the TE and RB, then match accordingly, then Reid blew it. If there is no switch to take place, then Foster blew it. Only the players know.


Three plays later JAC gets a lucky TD catch (bounced off Fournette). Missed tackles and blown coverage led to the chunk plays on this drive.
[ Edited by thl408 on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:51 PM ]
JD, TH - amazing breakdowns. Can't even describe how useful this weekly thread is.

Humble request, do either of you have a gif of the PI call on Johnson? We need to send that to Saleh so he can finally see that DJ is not the answer lol.
Originally posted by thl408:
+20. You can see Foster throw his arms up wondering wth. If Reid and Foster are supposed to read the release of the TE and RB, then match accordingly, then Reid blew it. If there is no switch to take place, then Foster blew it. Only the players know.

Always blame Reid imo.

  • mayo49
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Jimmy really is the ideal Qb for Shanny's offense.
There's a reason Hall was available middle of the season. We need a competent safety going into next year. Ward can't seemed to stay health for any significant stretch.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
There's a reason Hall was available middle of the season. We need a competent safety going into next year. Ward can't seemed to stay health for any significant stretch.

hall is trash though
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Originally posted by Furlow:
JD, TH - amazing breakdowns. Can't even describe how useful this weekly thread is.

Humble request, do either of you have a gif of the PI call on Johnson? We need to send that to Saleh so he can finally see that DJ is not the answer lol.

Saleh talked about his trail technique and all of our CB's do it. Johnson is exceptionally bad at it though from his positioning, technique and execution.

Ideally, he'd be in better position like Witherspoon and not have to rely on that (blind) technique and actually make a play on the ball but Johnson just isn't that talented so when he uses it, every smart WR just jumps back towards the ball and it's a P.I. 100% of the time.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 28, 2017 at 9:21 AM ]
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