Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Damn. Now CJ West

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:
this is the time I'd like to see the "next man up" and "everyone's dealing with the same amount of injuries" crowd speak up and say something. so I can continue to LMAO at their denial of this years long problem.

Bosa is one of the best conditioned athletes in the league. If this won't convince you that injuries like ACL tears are out of control of the trainers nothing will.

90% of injuries are because football is a rough game and s**t happens.

The one concerning thing is that this knee injury is not a one off for him...

49ers should cancel Training Camp and do Hospital Camp

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Ya....pretty sure shanny is in top 5 almost every year over 10 years......coincidence?

Yes. Coincidence.

If they were all getting staff infections or herpes you'd have a better argument.

They've changed trainers multiple times. They've changed the practice field to grass. They've done everything by the book to reduce injuries and it means jack s**t when it comes to tearing ligaments.

It's an interesting question at least to ask. 6 of the last 7 years we lead the league in injuries. Just bad luck doesn't align to that rate.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Ya....pretty sure shanny is in top 5 almost every year over 10 years......coincidence?

Yes. Coincidence.

If they were all getting staff infections or herpes you'd have a better argument.

They've changed trainers multiple times. They've changed the practice field to grass. They've done everything by the book to reduce injuries and it means jack s**t when it comes to tearing ligaments.

It's an interesting question at least to ask. 6 of the last 7 years we lead the league in injuries. Just bad luck doesn't align to that rate.

I just lookedup tha tinjury claim and it's not true. Several times have had mor einjuries than the 49ers in tha period. It really depends on how you track them. Is it games lost? Serious season ending injuries? Players listed on the weekly injury list?

My point is many teams suffer a lot of injures. It's not just the 49ers and the fans need to quit acting like it's something the training staff is doing wrong.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just lookedup tha tinjury claim and it's not true. Several times have had mor einjuries than the 49ers in tha period. It really depends on how you track them. Is it games lost? Serious season ending injuries? Players listed on the weekly injury list?

My point is many teams suffer a lot of injures. It's not just the 49ers and the fans need to quit acting like it's something the training staff is doing wrong.

No, actually you are wrong, it should be the quality of the players injured and the Niners are always in the lead. It's one thing to have an average player injured but the Niners have superstars that are injured that affect games directly. That is where you are wrong and you can accept it or be in denial. It's ok. With that mentality, if Mahomes gets injured, I could say every team has injuries. No, it's the significance of the injury that matters.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just lookedup tha tinjury claim and it's not true. Several times have had mor einjuries than the 49ers in tha period. It really depends on how you track them. Is it games lost? Serious season ending injuries? Players listed on the weekly injury list?

My point is many teams suffer a lot of injures. It's not just the 49ers and the fans need to quit acting like it's something the training staff is doing wrong.

No, actually you are wrong, it should be the quality of the players injured and the Niners are always in the lead. It's one thing to have an average player injured but the Niners have superstars that are injured that affect games directly. That is where you are wrong and you can accept it or be in denial. It's ok. With that mentality, if Mahomes gets injured, I could say every team has injuries. No, it's the significance of the injury that matters.

I would agree. Look at who our team captains are and see how many of them have either been injured or appeared on the injury report so far this season. It's basically every single one except Lenoir.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I just lookedup tha tinjury claim and it's not true. Several times have had mor einjuries than the 49ers in tha period. It really depends on how you track them. Is it games lost? Serious season ending injuries? Players listed on the weekly injury list?

My point is many teams suffer a lot of injures. It's not just the 49ers and the fans need to quit acting like it's something the training staff is doing wrong.

No, actually you are wrong, it should be the quality of the players injured and the Niners are always in the lead. It's one thing to have an average player injured but the Niners have superstars that are injured that affect games directly. That is where you are wrong and you can accept it or be in denial. It's ok. With that mentality, if Mahomes gets injured, I could say every team has injuries. No, it's the significance of the injury that matters.

I would agree. Look at who our team captains are and see how many of them have either been injured or appeared on the injury report so far this season. It's basically every single one except Lenoir.

The quality of the players is purely subjective. What you consider to be a quality player may be different than someone else.It's not a true metric. A valuable player for ther Niners may not be as valuable on some other team. In any case my point is ther Niners aren't the most injured team every year. Other teams often have as many or more injuries. Last year they were certainly hit hard at key positions and so far this yea rit's been the same but so have other teams.

I still can't believe Bosa is out

Why do injuries feel so much worse during the last 5 or so years than they did in the early 00's or 90's? What changed? I know a lot has chaged but I thought everything they were doing was to make the game "safer".

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I've never seen anything like this

What's even crazier is they'll probably end up being #1 or #2 for the 2025 season pic.twitter.com/1fuylvn2R8

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) September 23, 2025

to the denial crowd, what is your response to this graphic? what do you have to say after the comments you already made and then seeing this? these numbers that just proves this problem.

please entertain us with more denial.

Originally posted by BobSacamano69:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I've never seen anything like this

What's even crazier is they'll probably end up being #1 or #2 for the 2025 season pic.twitter.com/1fuylvn2R8

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) September 23, 2025

to the denial crowd, what is your response to this graphic? what do you have to say after the comments you already made and then seeing this? these numbers that just proves this problem.

please entertain us with more denial.

You trying to blame God, the universe, Kyle, the 95th different training staff or all of the above won't make any difference, so go ahead and feed your conspiracy delusions.

Humans like to find patterns where randomness is present because they don't understand how odds work. Odds don't mean everything will be distributed evenly, it only describes all possible outcomes and their statistical likelihood.

Bluffing/social elements aside, why does someone have a hot steak or a cold streak at the poker table? It isn't because of the odds as the same 52 cards are shuffled every time. It's random occurrence because each hand is it's own unrelated outcome, and this principle is true no matter how "hot" or "cold" things seem.

Once you eliminate the possible variables you simply have to chalk it up to an aberration of a cold streak. Theyve changed trainers multiple times. They don't train all that differently from any other team. They've intentionally avoided injured college players with most of their draft picks.

Someday (ideally starting now) they'll have 10 seasons in a row being the healthiest team in the league or something similar and people will praise the training staff even though they have nothing to do with preventing a guy from having his knee shredded like Aiyuk last year.

Recently watched SB 1998

Romanowski getting sacks. He was obviously hyped up. Those Broncos were heavy on advertising supplements.

Kyle I think operates just like he was raised by Glory and it creates a grave yard of success, in today's game. This style is our advantage but also undoing.

"A grave yard of success"

And then they turn around and want a guy like LaFleur who has had, what comparative success, exactly? That's right - LESS success. Including playoff head-to-head.

Sometimes I think this fan base was far more deserving of the 2-14 Chip Kelly type seasons.

A part of me hopes we fire Kyle and miss the playoffs for a decade straight again while going 1-16 every season so our fan base can be purged of their know-it-all arrogance.