Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Has anybody done an Analysis on the number of Injuries League wide showing whether they have increased since the NFLPA got all of the concessions about OTA's and Practices have been limited?

Seems to me that they have gone up (with some Teams more than others - namely the 9ers) since the rules changed.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
This s**t is seriously killing my excitement for watching football. I can't watch a single play without holding my breath that one of our key players won't get hurt. f**king b******t

This.

i am legit paranoid and watching every play, expecting to see someone laid out on the field. Totally SUCKS

Be honest, you read this as, "...headed for I.R."

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Staley's should have a better pulse of what's going on and below is his take on the matter. ( NC was on to something)

Jim] Harbaugh, when he was our coach, used to always say, 'You have to build a callus,'" Staley said on KNBR. "We were always, at the time, like, 'No, that's just your excuse of why practices are so hard and why we're going so hard in May and June and during the middle of the season.' But I really believe that there is something to that because we always felt very, very healthy, and hardened almost, by the preparation that we had done all season.

"It's like, if you condition your body and your mind to go through hard, hard, hard practices always, you do build up a callus. There is a little bit of that toughening up of your body."

"There's not as much time also spent on-field, and there's a lot more time with the stretching, and the performance science, and there's a lot of science behind it, and all this stuff, but it was different," Staley continued. "... It kind of got away from [the more rigorous training] five or six years ago. I really saw a difference in the way that we train, and the strength staffs, and kind of getting away from the Olympic lifts and the deep squats.

"The lifting of the 90s and 2000s was kind of frowned upon, and it's now much more performance-based and science and what's the best way we can get explosion, all this data. Sometimes, you've just got to go, put a bar on your back, and deep squat, and feel tough about it."

Problem is other than 2012 we had serious injuries issues under him too.

I had to repost this: seems more of a silver lining post:

It's funny that Seattle the Rams are just rolling along with their starters and facing teams without their starters as usual. (Rams lost their rb but their backup is a better receiver AND close to the same exact yards/YPC as last year). Gotta love the injuries and the consistent luck other teams have vs the niners always getting screwed.

well at least last year we proved we could beat the Rams AND Cardinals with 2nd and 3rd stringers and even the Seahawks at their home came down to a 4th and goal

A healthy niners team is easily the best team in the division and top 2 in the NFC.....oh well

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Problem is other than 2012 we had serious injuries issues under him too.

IIRC 2011 was the healthiest year. But point taken. I found Staley's comments interesting though considering he played with several regimes.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Problem is other than 2012 we had serious injuries issues under him too.

IIRC 2011 was the healthiest year. But point taken. I found Staley's comments interesting though considering he played with several regimes.

I agree. I think training and astro-turf are big factors in a a clubs injury situation. Fatigue (for example) and the turf grabbing Verrets leg and not letting go, are real world examples of lack of training and the kind of turf -- which causes injuries.

Shannanon about to go 6-10 again.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Welcome to the Azeez Al-Shaair breakout season 🤝 pic.twitter.com/7bwEjL1AY3

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) September 16, 2021

Be honest, you read this as, "...headed for I.R."

Why you posting this here? Just how much do you wanna jinx these guys?

How bout this, what if we renamed the thread to "4 year analysis". Maybe the thread caused a 7 year curse?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Welcome to the Azeez Al-Shaair breakout season 🤝 pic.twitter.com/7bwEjL1AY3

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) September 16, 2021

Be honest, you read this as, "...headed for I.R."

Why you posting this here? Just how much do you wanna jinx these guys?

It was a test in PTSD. You failed.

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Problem is other than 2012 we had serious injuries issues under him too.

IIRC 2011 was the healthiest year. But point taken. I found Staley's comments interesting though considering he played with several regimes.

The OP has all the historic ranks of AGL too but here you go. 2010 for reference as Harbaugh walked in the doors in 2011:
2010 - 4th
2011 - 8th
2012 - 1st
2013 - 23rd
2014 - 26th (2014-2020 31st on the aggregate average rank)

What I've found in this research is that it's common to have a down year but almost all teams bounce back the very next year.

What 9ers4eva is failing to note is that 2013 and 2014 the 9ers were one of the very oldest teams coming off extended seasons and extremely high snap counts (Fangio wasn't a big fan of heavy rotations).

The entire roster completely turned over over the span of a few months as a results of players retiring, as further evidence.

So there appears to be something with that old school (Singletary/Harbaugh) mentality but it'll eventually break players at the tail ends of their careers. That's one extreme.

Kyle's practices are extremely soft, light in quality/quantity and cautious and that extreme isn't working at all either.

The CBA has had an effect on both quality and quantity of getting game-ready as well. However, it simply sets the parameters. It's up to the individual coaches how they practice within those parameters and there are wide differences there.

Whatever you think the main source of the issue is (type of players targeted, offensive and defensive systems stress on players, S&C teams, practice styles, luck, stadium built on an Indian burial ground, all of the above, etc.), the fact of the matter is, we've been remarkably consistently piss poor for 7 straight years and now, 8 and counting.

That rules out "luck" for me.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We're about to pass 2019 after just week 1. Just waiting on Jevon Kinlaw next. Good thing the coaches were extra soft and cautious this off season.

Go 9ers!

2021 Injured Reserve / PUP / NFI / Suspension Total:

RB Jeff Wilson Jr.
T/G Justin Skule
SS Tarvarius Moore
CB Tim Harris Jr. - Browns
SS Tony Jefferson
WR/PR Richie James
RB Raheem Mostert
CB Jason Verrett
WILL Dre Greenlaw
3T Maurice Hurst Jr. - Short-Term I.R.
CB Davontae Harris - Short-Term I.R.
Z/FWR Jalen Hurd - Short-Term I.R.
LT Shon Coleman - Injury Settlement
MIKE Mychal Kendricks - Injury Settlement
ZWR Austin Watkins - Injury Settlement
ER Jordan Willis - Suspended

2021 (15) --- 2020 (45) --- 2019 (16) --- 2018 (18) --- 2017 (26) --- 2016 (22) --- 2015 (17) --- 2014 (21)

This is just insane.....I say keep firing and hiring the training staff each year until someone seems to know what the heck they are doing. Like, at this point, Jed shouldn't care what they cost because even in you pay them 10 mil/year if it saves you 25 million in guys not playing, it's paid for itself.

I'm with you on this. They really need to look into consistently healthy teams and their routines as well as more applicable S&C teams as well as our own internal MD's. It's remarkable how much they've failed here from Alex Smith to Reuben Foster to Jevon Kinlaw and so many others in between.

This is the primary reason as to why today's NFL is a bad product - too many injuries. Players are simply too big/fast/strong for their own good.

I vote to impeach this thread!!!