Originally posted by KeepRabbitsOut:
Originally posted by fryet:
I have 2 theories on the cause of injuries.
Theory 1 - Injuries are caused by recruiting injury prone players. Remember "farmer strong?" Young men who have grown up on a farm, are unnaturally strong and that extends beyond muscles to ligaments, tendons, etc. This is due to a lifestyle their entire life of heavy lifting. Contrast that to kids who never lifted weights until possibly high school, and before that had a rather sedentary life on the couch playing video games. Weight lifting can build up muscles, but the ligaments/tendons take a lifetime to build. It should be noted that the 49ers changed their drafting philosophy this year to focus on drafting players that are not injury prone, and that none of those players reported injuries.
Theory 2 - Too much of training is focused on developing muscle mass, and not enough on building up ligaments/tendons. Now, I know nothing about weight training, so I may be all wet, but here is my theory. When you want to build muscle mass, you do a few reps of very high weights. If you want to tone your body, you do lots of reps of lesser weights. My theory is that toning probably builds up tendons/ligaments more than muscle mass exercises. Players may be focusing too much on muscle mass, and need to focus more on toning of their bodies.
I think you might be on to something. Probably a combination of both.
Sounds like the head staff have their heads buried in the sand.
I will be watching our team and Saleh's new team to see any similarities too.
If the niners are not fixing this then we will likely have a similar season to last.
I think this is a real possibility, altho my knowledge and recollection of this goes back decades, and i wasn't paying that much attention at the time. The simile of "farmer strong "vs "unnaturally strong" sure is interesting. Surely already both S & C coaches and Kyle/John know already if our S & C guys have just been doing massive weights or mixing in really heavy maximal weights with lighter, multiple rep weights. Vaguely i think there was a rule of thumb that if you could only do 8 reps, then you were potentially hurting your cartilage with cytokines released into the area (meniscus) as way too much weight can damage cartilage. (Some cytokines actually induce inflammation, while others reduce inflammation.) There are all gradations of that obviously, but generally my understanding was mixing max load of 8 reps along with multiple reps of much lighter loads. The multiple reps help build tendons , the maximal 8 heavy reps make muscles bigger and stronger, but hard on cartilage and tendons. Hence the idea of mixing light multiple with heavy max 8 reps. Vaguely i recall yrs ago doing upper body 2x/wk and lower body 2x/wk. One was maximal wt loads of up to 8 reps, and the other was lighter loads but multiple reps. Mixing of the two seems like what i recall when playing sports…but that was decades ago. It is the heavy wts that build more power, more muscle, however.
John and Kyle already know what S &C were doing, but a literature research has proponents of both maximal wt and multiple lighter wts. I sure hope we haven't been stuck with only maximal wt load lifting. Probably not because i would think this is really in S & C wheelhouse and those guys would be up on all the newest and latest ideas on both. Just a guess would be we do both…but IDK. Building stronger tendons is key esp for Achilles, which ends most careers (altho KD sure played like a man possessed in loss to Bucks last nite) His performance was a thing to behold…and his Achilles held up.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Jul 19, 2021 at 11:10 AM ]
