Injuries - 9-Year Analysis

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ok, we are finally getting some ideas to put into the pot as to the WHY of all the injuries, that leads the league…even over last 10 yrs.

1. We are building bigger bodies than ligaments and meniscus can support.
2. Kyle's style of football, PLAY FAST, leads to more injuries than those who don't play quite so fast..
3, Perhaps we would be better served with S & C guys with experience virtually all in football, not hockey.
4. Look at future S& C coaches who are working , experimenting , and writing about new ideas in "High ankles,", "Hammies", knee injures of all kinds, and groin pulls." I O W, get guys who are the vanguard of their profession.
5. Seek S & C guys like we do players,…and coaches….they have to be at the top of their game, some good experience with results and then continuously grade and regrade them, getting better ones when available.

that's just a drop in the bucket, and some may have value, others not. But idea is to get fans thinking about what they feel might be of help . We are in a deep hole and the obvious thing is to quit digging. A suggestion instead would be for fans to come up with other ideas. Add to the list,…Please

Rewrite the contracts to make sure players train correctly and train/certify 3rd party coaching/training organizations to monitor and train players correctly so that they don't lose money if injured outside of the 49er facility. Medical and S & C personnel should be (as you said above) involved in cutting edge research in football injury areas (example: ligaments, PED use and misuse, ACL/Achilles, astro-turf equipment and protections). Expand scouting to include scouting rookies for good strength and conditioning habits and practices (in addition to tracking their college and pro injury histories). A bit more emphasis on availability vs talent in player evaluations come cut down day.

Maybe stop drafting players with a history of injuries would be a good start

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
Maybe stop drafting players with a history of injuries would be a good start

They already changed the scouting emphasis this last draft, now we're on to injury prevention during the offseason.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by MrNineSeven:
Maybe stop drafting players with a history of injuries would be a good start

They already changed the scouting emphasis this last draft, now we're on to injury prevention during the offseason.

Yup. They're on the right path on acquisitions now.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ok, we are finally getting some ideas to put into the pot as to the WHY of all the injuries, that leads the league…even over last 10 yrs.

1. We are building bigger bodies than ligaments and meniscus can support.
2. Kyle's style of football, PLAY FAST, leads to more injuries than those who don't play quite so fast..
3, Perhaps we would be better served with S & C guys with experience virtually all in football, not hockey.
4. Look at future S& C coaches who are working , experimenting , and writing about new ideas in "High ankles,", "Hammies", knee injures of all kinds, and groin pulls." I O W, get guys who are the vanguard of their profession.
5. Seek S & C guys like we do players,…and coaches….they have to be at the top of their game, some good experience with results and then continuously grade and regrade them, getting better ones when available.

that's just a drop in the bucket, and some may have value, others not. But idea is to get fans thinking about what they feel might be of help . We are in a deep hole and the obvious thing is to quit digging. A suggestion instead would be for fans to come up with other ideas. Add to the list,…Please

Rewrite the contracts to make sure players train correctly and train/certify 3rd party coaching/training organizations to monitor and train players correctly so that they don't lose money if injured outside of the 49er facility. Medical and S & C personnel should be (as you said above) involved in cutting edge research in football injury areas (example: ligaments, PED use and misuse, ACL/Achilles, astro-turf equipment and protections). Expand scouting to include scouting rookies for good strength and conditioning habits and practices (in addition to tracking their college and pro injury histories). A bit more emphasis on availability vs talent in player evaluations come cut down day.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ok, we are finally getting some ideas to put into the pot as to the WHY of all the injuries, that leads the league…even over last 10 yrs.

1. We are building bigger bodies than ligaments and meniscus can support.
2. Kyle's style of football, PLAY FAST, leads to more injuries than those who don't play quite so fast..
3, Perhaps we would be better served with S & C guys with experience virtually all in football, not hockey.
4. Look at future S& C coaches who are working , experimenting , and writing about new ideas in "High ankles,", "Hammies", knee injures of all kinds, and groin pulls." I O W, get guys who are the vanguard of their profession.
5. Seek S & C guys like we do players,…and coaches….they have to be at the top of their game, some good experience with results and then continuously grade and regrade them, getting better ones when they come available

6. Have S& C checking on PEDS use and misuse. Also have S &C oversee proper footwear for all players on Astro turf fields, or rainy weather.
7. Have 3rd party S &C monitor off season weight lifting, training, to be sure it is being done properly.
8. Write contracts so that if player gets injured outside of football, we don't get stuck paying for them.
9. Have scouts expand scouting to include looking for S& C coaches who excel. In evaluating a player, talk to college S & C coaches, also.
10. Continue to focus on not just players ability but also his AVAILABILITY.

please add your suggestions to list.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And these aren't included in AGL.

31 players have gotten injured in practice since Kyle Shanahan became the 49ers head coach.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) June 11, 2021

He went there didn't he.

He sure did. But TBF, I tracked them too and felt they should be included in the overall health topic. But of course, he takes it too far. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And these aren't included in AGL.

31 players have gotten injured in practice since Kyle Shanahan became the 49ers head coach.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) June 11, 2021

He went there didn't he.

He sure did. But TBF, I tracked them too and felt they should be included in the overall health topic.but if course, he takes it too far. LOL

Can we stop sharing content from that ba stard Cohn? Can the webzone stop including his articles and tweet feed? It's absolutely annoying even to read his titles and see his idiotic face on the media feed every day.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And these aren't included in AGL.

31 players have gotten injured in practice since Kyle Shanahan became the 49ers head coach.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) June 11, 2021

He went there didn't he.

He sure did. But TBF, I tracked them too and felt they should be included in the overall health topic.but if course, he takes it too far. LOL

Can we stop sharing content from that ba stard Cohn? Can the webzone stop including his articles and tweet feed? It's absolutely annoying even to read his titles and see his idiotic face on the media feed every day.

Sure, when Maiocco or the rest decide to record practices and cover topics like this on their own, he'll disappear. Even Cohn has some gold nuggets. But I don't blame you if you don't want to wade through the muck to find it.

Originally posted by NinerGM:
Although I don't agree with a lot he says, I do agree with the Jeff Wilson info about the meniscus tear after a heavy quad/squats leg workout. Gym I go to has quite a few current and former IBBF pros who are really down to earth and this topic has come up more than a few times in passing conversation.

For sure. It's a fine balance needed, indeed.

Develop a vaccine for football injuries

"Every team has injuries. It's just bad luck."


LOL. It's about as stable as possible here and in Washington.

Heavy squats can cause meniscus tears. So it seems quite possible that Wilson Jr. overdid his weightlifting, and the 49ers' training staff should have been monitoring him more closely and effectively.

https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/the-real-story-behind-49ers-rb-jeff-wilson-jr-s-torn-meniscus

It's all this guy's fault



Dustin Little is in his second season with the 49ers as head athletic trainer. He joined the 49ers after spending more than five years with the Denver Broncos as an assistant athletic trainer/physical therapist (2014-15) and director of rehabilitation (2016-18). He also spent the summer of 2013 as an intern with the team's medical department.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
And these aren't included in AGL.

31 players have gotten injured in practice since Kyle Shanahan became the 49ers head coach.

— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) June 11, 2021

He went there didn't he.

He sure did. But TBF, I tracked them too and felt they should be included in the overall health topic.but if course, he takes it too far. LOL

Can we stop sharing content from that ba stard Cohn? Can the webzone stop including his articles and tweet feed? It's absolutely annoying even to read his titles and see his idiotic face on the media feed every day.

Sure, when Maiocco or the rest decide to record practices and cover topics like this on their own, he'll disappear. Even Cohn has some gold nuggets. But I don't blame you if you don't want to wade through the muck to find it.

Nobody likes Cohn. Just remove all his content from the webzone and everyone will be happy.
I'm ok with anyhing that happens to never hear of that idiot again.