2017 Training Camp Thread

Originally posted by SoCold:
Shanny was just talking about being able to evaluate players more because you have more practice time than game time.
Some guys can flip a switch come game time and play at a much higher level than in practice.
Both areas are important.

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agreed

someone was asking how Erik Magnuson is doing...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Over/under on injuries in today's full padded practice vs Denver?

2.5

We only counting our injuries?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Over/under on injuries in today's full padded practice vs Denver?

2.5

We only counting our injuries?

yeah lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Shanny has said he evaluates players in practice more so than these games. This is probably why guys like hyde and tank continue to stay afloat. Also sunseri is ahead of Lorenzo James and Hightower ahead of breida and Williams on the unofficial depth chart.

Yes a depth chart that's put together by the communications department. I'd look more at snap counts vs "who starts" in preseason games. I also think that's how most coaches go in making up the roster (practice over preseason games).

Also the 3rd game is usually when you get an idea on who's gonna be starting/making the team

As far as Hyde staying afloat lol stop

Are you absolutely sure hyde can perform in this offense? Until I see it in a game, I'm not. I understand this depth chart is largely based on snap count but there is a reason players practice with the second and third team as well. As of today that depth chart is probably accurate, unless you have unknown information.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

someone was asking how Erik Magnuson is doing...

The best offensive lineman at every position through the first preseason games pic.twitter.com/sJY7ZJiqsN

— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) August 15, 2017

That is almost too good to be true....is it? It is PFF...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Over/under on injuries in today's full padded practice vs Denver?

2.5

We only counting our injuries?

yeah lol

Gonna go under.

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Are you absolutely sure hyde can perform in this offense?

Anyone that doesnt think that Hyde cant perform in this offense doesnt understand the offense or flat out is just clueless like Grant Cohn.



Dude was born to play in an offense like Shanahan's. He demolished people in a zone blocking scheme in college, he ran for over 4.5 yards a carry in Kelly's more predictable inside zone oriented offense. Now you let him run from under center and give him a fullback. If he stays healthy he is going to crush people.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Shanny was just talking about being able to evaluate players more because you have more practice time than game time.
Some guys can flip a switch come game time and play at a much higher level than in practice.
Both areas are important.

SF 49ers Training Camp Tour Live NFL radio, starts at 4pm PT.

Tru dat!

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Over/under on injuries in today's full padded practice vs Denver?

2.5

We only counting our injuries?

yeah lol

Gonna go under.

Only 2.5? Over!

I'm guessing an OL, DL and ILB or S.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

someone was asking how Erik Magnuson is doing...

The best offensive lineman at every position through the first preseason games pic.twitter.com/sJY7ZJiqsN

— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) August 15, 2017

And i actually highlighted he and Darrell Williams Jr. and Jr. was better. Very impressive feet. I agree with...culp...Cohn, Williams is already better than Gilliam but I want to see him and Erik against 1's and 2's now. Erik had a very nice and consistent game.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by PacTiger:

Are you absolutely sure hyde can perform in this offense?

Anyone that doesnt think that Hyde cant perform in this offense doesnt understand the offense or flat out is just clueless like Grant Cohn.



Dude was born to play in an offense like Shanahan's. He demolished people in a zone blocking scheme in college, he ran for over 4.5 yards a carry in Kelly's more predictable inside zone oriented offense. Now you let him run from under center and give him a fullback. If he stays healthy he is going to crush people.

K

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by Joecool:
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1RDxlmLeznRKL

Video recap by Cohn. He's a little uncomfortable on his personal camera.

Said Hoyer reminds him of a better version of Alex Smith. Said Alex Smith is a good QB but Hoyer looks slightly better. Totally liking Hoyer fitting in Kyle's system.

Beathard taking 2:1 snaps with 2nd team over Barkley and performing better than Barkley.

Good details on today's practice. 48 minute video.

I also watched the whole thing and even though I think he's basically a douche with specific agendas he continues to perpetrate against players he doesn't like (or rather players at the same position as guys he's completely sucking off), there were a few valuable points made. Most sensible thing he said is if CJB wins #2 spot over Barkley just keep two QBs because what's the point of keeping MB if he wasn't good enough to claim backup QB job over a rookie. I don't know Shanahan's pattern of how many he keeps on 53, well actually he's never decided that as an OC so he could keep two or three QB's depending on whatever. Before TC started most people thought Barkley would've just been the decent veteran backup with CJ developmental, but it appears his development in Shanahan's offense is ahead of schedule. (Funny thing about this is Cohn earlier in some of his reports was talking as though Barkley would actually end up becoming the starter over Hoyer. Now he's convinced CJB will be named #2 before end of preseason, thus making Barkley expendable. Which only further illustrates he continues to be wrong about almost everything.)

Cohn will be doing this at 1 pm after every practice from now on. As for the bold, not sure you can hold something against somebody for making a prediction when nothing has been seen on the field yet. Now, he has seen them practice and play and adjusted his evaluation. Nobody is trying to be Nostradamus. Not trying to defend Cohn but it annoys me when fans get their feelings hurt. To me, "completely sucking off" means he simply thinks that is the better player and that player has shown, to him in his eyes, that he is the better player and Cohn is not going to sugar coat whether or not the backup's job is in jeopardy.

Interesting note, he thought Williams is by far better than Breida but thinks Kyle has Breida at #2 in order to push Williams to keep that fire. To me, that's a concern for Williams in the long run in terms of his motivation.

I won't be surprised if Aaron Lynch gets cut. He was doing the same drill on the hill as Buckner and Lynch ended up quitting when the coach tried to get him to do it correctly. Lynch replying with an "eff this" and walked away.

Trent Brown is a worthless sack of s**t.

someone get AD on the horn!