Predict 53 man Roster- 2017

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:

The front office and Shanahan are looking at 2018 and beyond when it comes to the roster. Ahmad Brooks was one of the best 53 but why cut a young player to keep Brooks around for 2017. I love the long term thinking they're using right now. For example I think the 49ers goal is to have a offensive line of LT Staley,LG Garnett,C Kilgore,RG Tomlinson and RT Brown. Another example is I wanted no part of Joe Haden for 3 years and 27 million and I think the front office felt the same way. His best football is long gone and he only keeps the young guys off the field. I'm going into this season to watch the young guys grow and I could care less about the record. My only regret is not having a long term answer at QB(assuming Beathard isn't the answer) to learn Shanahan's system this season.

No question!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Poldarn49:
I realized Beadles is not making the initial roster. His salary is $2.45m with $300k roster bonus. If he is on the week 1 roster he can claim his salary as guaranteed for the season. So he is our #1 vet cut candidate.

Who is the backup OG then? Tomlinson and Fusco start? But who backs up them, I have little to no confidence in either Barnes or a rook like Magnuson, so I'd keep Beadles for 1 more yr, then move on next year.

I like the idea of Garnett/Tomlinson as our Guards in the future.

I agree, 2.4 million vs around 70+ million in cap space. Beadle's salary is a minor factor in him making the team or not. And the youth movement of Garnett/Tomlinson is here. I like that youth move.

Agreed, we have around $70M right now even after Tomlinson deal, so keeping Beadles won't hurt this team. I would rather have him as the backup OG and C than Barnes or Magnuson. I do likethe idea of Magnuson on the 53, just not the gameday 46.

Same here!

I'd keep the following 8 OL for the opener, with Garnett on IR/DFI(even though you don't need to designate anyone anymore)

Staley-Beadles-Kilgore-Fusco-Brown, with Beadles,Gilliam,& Magnuson as backups, with Beadles backup C/OG and Gilliam Swing T on gamedays on the active 46.

Tomlinson?

I'm starting to think about Celek again too.

lol brain fart I had Beadles listed twice derp moment for me. lol

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

lol brain fart I had Beadles listed twice derp moment for me. lol

Hey, you've caught mine 100 times before...least I could do.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
lol brain fart I had Beadles listed twice derp moment for me. lol

Hey, you've caught mine 100 times before...least I could do.

lol thanks man, appreciate it.

Oh here's my latest projection.

Updated Projected 53-Man Roster

1. QB 2 Brian Hoyer
2. QB 3 C.J. Beathard
3. RB 28 Carlos Hyde
4. RB 32 Joe Williams
5. RB 49 Matt Breida
6. RB 31 Raheem Mostert
7. FB 44 Kyle Juszcyzk
8. WR 15 Pierre Garçon
9. WR 11 Marquise Goodwin
10. WR 17 Jeremy Kerley
11. WR 19 Aldrick Robinson
12. WR 81 Trent Taylor
13. WR 83 Victor Bolden Jr.
14. TE 85 George Kittle
15. TE 82 Logan Paulsen
16. C 67 Daniel Kilgore
17. C/OG 62 Erik Magnuson
18. OG --- Laken Tomlinson
19. OG 68 Zane Beadles
20. OG 63 Brandon Fusco
21. OT 74 Joe Staley
22. OT 77 Trent Brown
23. OT 76 Garry Gilliam
24. DE 94 Solomon Thomas
25. DE 91 Arik Armstead
26. DE 95 Tank Carradine
27. DE 58 Elvis Dumervil
28. DE 59 Aaron Lynch
29. DT 99 DeForest Buckner
30. DT 75 Sen'Derrick Marks
31. NT 90 Earl Mitchell
32. NT 96 D.J. Jones
33. OLB 57 Eli Harold
34. OLB 56 Reuben Foster
35. OLB 97 Dekoda Watson
36. OLB 54 Ray-Ray Armstrong
37. OLB 45 Pita Taumoepenu
38. MLB 53 NaVorro Bowman
39. MLB 50 Brock Coyle
40. CB 33 Rashard Robinson
41. CB 36 Dontae Johnson
42. CB 24 K'Wuan Williams
43. CB 41 Ahkello Witherspoon
44. CB 27 Keith Reaser
45. FS 25 Jimmie Ward
46. FS 49 Lorenzo Jerome
47. FS 38 Adrian Colbert
48. SS 35 Eric Reid
49. SS 29 Jaquiski Tartt
50. SS 20 Don Jones
51. PK 9 Robbie Gould
52. P 5 Bradley Pinion
53. LS 86 Kyle Nelson

OFFENSE:
QB: 2 Brian Hoyer(2018)/ 3 C.J. Beathard(2020)
RB: 28 Carlos Hyde(2017)/ 32 Joe Williams(2020)/ 49 Matt Breida(2019)/ 31 Raheem Mostert(2017)
FB: 44 Kyle Juszcyzk(2020)
WR: 15 Pierre Garçon(2021)/ 11 Marquise Goodwin(2018)/ 17 Jeremy Kerley(2019)/ 19 Aldrick Robinson(2018)/ 81 Trent Taylor(2020)/ 83 Victor Bolden Jr.(2019)/[83 B.J. Johnson III(2019)]
TE: 85 George Kittle(2020)/ 82Logan Paulsen(2017)
C: 67 Daniel Kilgore(2017)/ 62 Erik Magnuson(2019)
OG: 68 Zane Beadles(2018)/ 63 Brandon Fusco(2017)/ -- Laken Tomlinson(2018)/[65 Joshua Garnett(2019)]
OT: 74 Joe Staley(2019)/ 77 Trent Brown(2018)/ 76 Garry Gilliam(2017)

DEFENSE:
DE: 94 Solomon Thomas(2020)/ 95 Tank Carradine(2017)
DT: 99 DeForest Buckner(2019)/ 75 Sen'Derrick Marks(2017)
NT: 90 Earl Mitchell(2020)/ 96 D.J. Jones(2020)
LEO: 91 Arik Armstead(2018)/ 58 Elvis Dumervil(2018)/ 59 Aaron Lynch(2017)
SAM: 57 Eli Harold(2018)/ 97 Dekoda Watson(2019)/ 45 Pita Taumoepenu(2020)/[47 Jimmie Gilbert(2019)]
MIKE: 53 NaVorro Bowman(2022)/ 50 Brock Coyle(2017)/[48 Donavin Newsom(2019)]
WILL: 56 Reuben Foster(2020)/ 54 Ray-Ray Armstrong(2018)/[51 Malcolm Smith(2021)]
CB: 33 Rashard Robinson(2019)/ 36 Dontae Johnson(2017)/ 24 K'Wuan Williams(2017)/ 41 Ahkello Witherspoon(2020)/ 27 Keith Reaser(2017)
FS: 25 Jimmie Ward(2018)/ 49 Lorenzo Jerome(2019)/ 38 Adrian Colbert(2020)
SS: 35 Eric Reid(2017)/ 29 Jaquiski Tartt(2018)/ 20 Don Jones(2018)/[43 Chanceller James(2019)]

SPECIAL TEAMS:
PK: 9 Robbie Gould(2018)
P: 5 Bradley Pinion(2018)
LS: 86 Kyle Nelson(2018)
KR: 83 Victor Bolden Jr. & 31 Raheem Mostert
PR: 17 Jeremy Kerley & 81 Trent Taylor

Practice Squad:

QB 1 Nick Mullens, WR 6 Kendrick Bourne, WR 13 Aaron Burbridge, TE 46 Cole Hikutini, OG 78 Norman Price, OT 75 Darrell Williams Jr., DT 66 Noble Nwachukwu, OLB 47 Austin Calitro, CB 23 Will Redmond, FS 40 Vinnie Sunseri

Week 1 Inactives: C/OG Magnuson, DE Lynch, DT Marks, NT Jones, OLB Taumoepenu, CB Reaser, FS Colbert
I could see them having Marks active and someone like Mostert inactive if they feel Bolden Jr and Taylor are enough as return men.

Key Cuts/Trades:

QB Matt Barkley- Cut(Could be brought back later if needed)
RB Tim Hightower- Cut(Could be brought back later if needed)
TE Garrett Celek- Traded for a 7th Round pick, if not, then cut
DL Quinton Dial- Traded for a 5th Round pick, maybe Denver, or a 3-4 team who needs a solid DL, I like Dial, but there seems to be no perfect or right fit for him in Saleh's defense

Notes:

I kept D.J. Jones, Pita Taumoepenu, and Adrian Colbert due the fact I don't see them passing waivers, I know it's different this year, but teams will still have 24 hours to make claims.

I can see them cutting Reaser if a better play is available on waivers, or a vested veteran, good thing about being 2-14, and picking #2, we hold the 2nd spot for waivers, so unless the Browns want someone, he's basically ours.

Only issue I have is, who gets cut and brought back after Saturday so Garnett can do on IR and return later in the season? Marks might be a choice, as he isn't subjected to waivers a vested veteran.

Returning Players from 2016:

1. RB Hyde
2. RB Mostert
3. WR Kerley
4. C Kilgore
5. OG Beadles
6. OT Staley
7. OT Brown
8. DE Armstead
9. DE Carradine
10. DE Lynch
11. DT Buckner
12. OLB Harold
13. OLB Armstrong
14. MLB Bowman
15. CB Robinson
16. CB Johnson
17. CB Reaser
18. FS Ward
19. SS Reid
20. SS Tartt
21. P Pinion
22. LS Nelson

New to the team in 2017:

1. QB Hoyer
2. QB Beathard
3. RB Williams
4. RB Breida
5. FB Juszcyzk
6. WR Garçon
7. WR Goodwin
8. WR Robinson
9. WR Taylor
10. WR Bolden Jr.
11. TE Kittle
12. TE Paulsen
13. OG Tomlinson
14. OG Fusco
15. OG Magnuson
16. OT Gilliam
17. DE Thomas
18. DE Dumervil
19. DT Marks
20. NT Mitchell
21. NT Jones
22. OLB Foster
23. OLB Watson
24. OLB Taumoepenu
25. MLB Coyle
26. CB Williams
27. CB Witherspoon
28. FS Jerome
29. FS Colbert
30. SS Jones
31. PK Gould

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Keep Blair and drop Pita

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

lol thanks man, appreciate it.

Oh here's my latest projection.

Updated Projected 53-Man Roster

OK Marks with a sack tonight, looking much better condition wise. But Blair didn't suit up. I don't see Celek yet either. Bolden is a lock. Beathard looking 1 step forward, 1 back. Ray-Ray and Coyle looking like crap. Don Jones nicked up... awesome gunner. He and Mostert will be huge for us. Colbert nice play. Any other thoughts and notes you're weighing? OL?

Originally posted by jreff22:

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Keep Blair and drop Pita

Tough one...Pita is getting pressure. We probably could get him on the PS. Hmmm.

Bolden Jr.!!! Welcome to the 53!!!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jreff22:
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Keep Blair and drop Pita

Tough one...Pita is getting pressure. We probably could get him on the PS. Hmmm.

Tough one, I think Pita would get claimed with the way he's playing, same for Mostert, Bolden, Breida, Jerome and others.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
lol thanks man, appreciate it.

Oh here's my latest projection.

Updated Projected 53-Man Roster

OK Marks with a sack tonight, looking much better condition wise. But Blair didn't suit up. I don't see Celek yet either. Bolden is a lock. Beathard looking 1 step forward, 1 back. Ray-Ray and Coyle looking like crap. Don Jones nicked up... awesome gunner. He and Mostert will be huge for us. Colbert nice play. Any other thoughts and notes you're weighing? OL?

Yeah I'm not sold on Celek on the 53, rather have 2, with JUICE as the 3rd. Bolden Jr. made this team as a KR/PR. Beathard better be the #2 QB.

Ray-Ray and Coyle I'm ok with, as long as Coyle doesn't have to play defense. Armstrong will be ok. Don Jones makes this team,with Watson and Mostert as key ST guys.

I like Colbert's potential, can play CB and FS, doubt he makes it to the PS, but you never know 1100 players will be let go by Saturday at 4 PM EST, mad dash to claim someone.

Also Logan Paulsen impressed me with his hands in the 1st half, made a nice catch ,and got a 1st down I believe.

Like I said after the draft, guys like Robinson, Paulsen, Coyle, and Watrson who know the systems, were making this team, as was Don Jones. Excited for next Sunday.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Also Logan Paulsen impressed me with his hands in the 1st half, made a nice catch ,and got a 1st down I believe.

Like I said after the draft, guys like Robinson, Paulsen, Coyle, and Watrson who know the systems, were making this team, as was Don Jones. Excited for next Sunday.

Yeah, I'm probably overthinking things. Thanks dude.

FINAL UPDATE

Note: Base (run defense/first down offense) personnel noted first. This is where I project players will be the majority of their snaps noting that nickel/dime and sub packages will be plenty.

rookie

Offensive Personnel: --- 23
QB: Brian Hoyer; C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Joe Williams
RB2: Matt Breida; Raheem Mostert
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Marquise Goodwin; Aldrick Robinson
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Pierre Garçon; Victor Bolden Jr.
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; [Joshua Garnett]
C: Daniel Kilgore; Erik Magnuson
RG: Brandon Fusco; Laken Tomlinson
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

*Offensive Weapon (RB/FB/TE/WR)

Defensive Personnel: --- 27
SAM: Eli Harold
LDE: *Solomon Thomas; Tank Carradine
NT: *Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT: *DeForest Buckner; *Sen'Derrick Marks
LEO: *Arik Armstead
NER: Elvis Dumervil & Aaron Lynch; Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Brock Coyle
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Dontae Johnson; Ahkello Witherspoon
S/CB: K'Waun Williams; Keith Reaser
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome & Don Jones
SS: Eric Reid; Jaquiski Tartt & Adrian Colbert

* Interior Rushers / NER = Nickel Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

KOR: Victor Bolden Jr. & Raheem Mostert
PR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor

[...] = One player will be initially cut and brought back after 24 hours once Joshua Garnett goes on I.R.

Originally posted by NCommand:
FINAL UPDATE

Note: Base (run defense/first down offense) personnel noted first. This is where I project players will be the majority of their snaps noting that nickel/dime and sub packages will be plenty.

rookie

Offensive Personnel: --- 23
QB: Brian Hoyer; C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Joe Williams
RB2: Matt Breida; Raheem Mostert
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Marquise Goodwin; Aldrick Robinson
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Pierre Garçon; Victor Bolden Jr.
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; [Joshua Garnett]
C: Daniel Kilgore; Erik Magnuson
RG: Brandon Fusco; Laken Tomlinson
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

*Offensive Weapon (RB/FB/TE/WR)

Defensive Personnel: --- 27
SAM: Eli Harold
LDE: *Solomon Thomas; Tank Carradine
NT: *Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT: *DeForest Buckner; *Sen'Derrick Marks
LEO: *Arik Armstead
NER: Elvis Dumervil & Aaron Lynch; Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Brock Coyle
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Dontae Johnson; Ahkello Witherspoon
S/CB: K'Waun Williams; Keith Reaser
LCB: Rashard Robinson
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome & Don Jones
SS: Eric Reid; Jaquiski Tartt & Adrian Colbert

* Interior Rushers / NER = Nickel Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

KOR: Victor Bolden Jr. & Raheem Mostert
PR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor

[...] = One player will be initially cut and brought back after 24 hours once Joshua Garnett goes on I.R.

Damn you, copying me lol.

Yeah one more note on the Garnett thing,the player cut has to be a vested veteran or we take a chance of losing someone by placing someone on waivers as vested veterans don't go through waivers.

The one's i see, Sen'Derrick Marks, or Don Jones, or they go only 4 CBs, then add another CB that they may like who got cut, or dare i say Asa Jackson as he's a vested veteran.

QB: Hoyer, Beathard
RB: Hyde, Breida, Williams, Mostert
FB: Juice
TE: Kittle, Paulsen, Celek
WR: Garcon, Goodwin, Robinson
WR: Kerley, Taylor, Bolden

LT: Staley, Gilliam
LG: Beadles, Tomlinson
C: Kilgore, Magnuson
RG: Fusco
RT: Brown

LE: Carradine, Thomas
NT: Mitchell, Jones
DT: Buckner, Dial
LEO: Armstead, Dumervil, Lynch

LB: Harold, Watson, Taumoepenu
LB: Bowman, Coyle
LB: Foster, Armstrong

CB: Robinson, Williams, Jackson
CB: Johnson, Witherspoon
FS: Ward, Jerome
SS: Reid, Tartt, Jones

ST: Gould, Pinion, Nelson