Trade chips to move up?

Very situational, but I doubt it.

Reality is we don't have the depth to be offering players. For example if we trade Hyde then aren't we almost committing ourselves to using the draft pick (or one of our other picks) we save to take an RB anyway? So instead of getting 1 RB to add to the team we have to get two as we'll be replacing Hyde. We might as well just use the pick we saved to move up or stay put and address another position.

Most of the time when players are traded they're not in the teams plans or the team is confident of who is coming through behind them. Do we really have anyone we can be comfortable replacing Hyde/Staley from within the team, and if we replace them in the draft then we're eroding our depth by trading them away unless we double up on positions in the draft which then creates positions of needs instead of being able to take BPA as Lynch/Kyle seem more interested in doing.

It's not like we need to trade them for salary cap reasons either so long story short I don't see a whole lot of value in making these kind of moves until we have more quality behind those who are already here and the draft is quite packed so I don't see the trades moving us up far enough to be a significant improvement on what we could get by staying put.

I'll qualify that by saying if Lynch/Shanahan have completely given up on a particular player then it could become an option rather than giving up a pick. Otherwise I don't see it happening.

Id hate it but if the niners do take Fournette a lot of teams will be interested about Hyde..so Hyde is the best trade bait the niners have if he isn't part of their plans which I highly doubt

It's a very interesting hypothetical for sure.

I suppose the thing is, how do you feel about Hightower being #2?

I don't feel that comfortable about it personally, and no matter how good Fournette may be or become we don't have the O-Line of the Cowboys and if we're taking Fournette then I would rather not bash him against a wall for an entire season. I think we'll need a #2 to ease the load.

That leaves us with either keeping Hyde as #2, or trading Hyde and taking another running back in the draft. That makes it pretty situational because on the surface it doesn't seem like a big difference in value between keeping him or trading and using that saved pick on a RB anyway.

in a perfect world, we trade Tank for a 3rd and Harold for a 4th , and use those picks to move up and grab an elite prospect , and grab a Derek Barnett or Charles Harris

It hurts my soul to read this. Although we need young talent, unless a team is offering a Herschel Walker type of trade, I'm not interested in trading the few good players we have on the roster. Now as for bundling our later picks to move up, or if a team thinks our trash (Tank Carradine) can be their treasure, go for it.

Some Cool Ranch Doritos could do the job

Well before it was Brock, now I'm thinking Harold or Brooks.

Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
in a perfect world, we trade Tank for a 3rd and Harold for a 4th , and use those picks to move up and grab an elite prospect , and grab a Derek Barnett or Charles Harris

LOL, what? Tank Carradine for a 3rd!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? This wouldn't even happen in a dream, let alone a perfect world.

I don't know that he would yield much, but Reid is a guy I would consider moving for draft capital. He and Tartt serve the same purpose in this defense and are redundant and Tartt is cheaper, less injury prone and still on his way up.

Our coaches haven't even had one practice yet and they don't even know what we have yet either. This would be more plausible next year but not this year IMO.

We need as much talent as we can get. Trading Staley is moving backwards.

Originally posted by NeeJ49er:

in a perfect world, we trade Tank for a 3rd and Harold for a 4th , and use those picks to move up and grab an elite prospect , and grab a Derek Barnett or Charles Harris

lol in a make believe world, you mean. Tank isn't even worth a 7th rounder. Hes done nothing.

Yep trade away your franchise tackle in a s**tty draft for tackles, I'm sure whatever QB they end up with won't need pass protection from the left.