Grading the Assistant Coaches

gold49er2183 · 2017-02-14T16:26:19-08:00

Quarterbacks Coach - Rich Scangarello can't say I know alot about him but Shannahan pulled him out of a small school. Does have NFL experience. I'd give it a C Running Backs Coach - Bobby Turner great track record and familiar with the system. A Tight Ends Coach/Assistant Head Coach - Jon Embree was great with the bucks and helped a young TE Excel. I belive he's familiar with the system A Offensive Running Game Coordinator - Mike McDaniel the reccuring theme here, familiar with system. B Wide Receivers Coach - Mike LaFleur see above. Well respected it seems B Defensive Coordinator - Robert Saleh not good. Only reason it's not an F is because he was involved with Seattles defense and it's not coming coordinators. D Outside Linebackers Coach/Sr. Defensive Assistant - Jason Tarver a known commodity, coordinator experience, and respected coach. A Secondary Coach - Jeff Hafley did good with our young DBs last year. C Defensive Line Coach - Jeff Zgonina worked with a great giants d line that should help him alot. My favorite hire on defense. A Special Teams Coordinator - Richard Hightower Kyle hooking a buddy up. Assistant experience. C Ray Wright - Strength & Conditioning I have no idea but better be better than 17 IR players. Overall great offensive staff in my opinion. The defensive staff has alot to prove. It scares me but I'm gonna hope Saleh is the next big thing. I'd feel much better with the staff if we grab Fangio next year.

Feb 14, 2017 at 4:29 PM

Senzino
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LaFleur is an A. Widely regarded as one of best wr coaches in football.

Tarver is an A? Laughable. I have no idea why he's so highly rated here.

Feb 14, 2017 at 4:37 PM

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Mike McDaniel & Mike LaFleur should both be A's

McDaniel is Shanahan's wingman and was the run game coordinator last year in Atlanta and that run game was no slouch.

Honestly we don't know much about a lot of these coaches to grade them just yet.

[ Edited by Ninerblood on Feb 14, 2017 at 4:38 PM ]

Feb 14, 2017 at 4:49 PM

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I'm big on the Mike McDaniel hire. I believe he will eventually be the OC.....he still gets a B though. The highest grade anyone should get is a B. Like Lynch and Shanahan, they have a lot to prove. Lets revisit this in a few years...hoping they're all A's at that time.

Feb 14, 2017 at 4:58 PM

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I don't know enough about most of these guys to give a concrete grade. But if I had to I'd go mostly B's across the board. Bobby Turner gets an A. Robert Saleh gets a C, only because there is no track record to indicate it being good or bad, so I'll go average.

Feb 14, 2017 at 6:05 PM

49er-from-Yavin-IV
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I -- Incomplete

Give it a few seasons and talent acquisition to determine that.

Feb 14, 2017 at 6:17 PM

StubbyNBY
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Originally posted by Senzino:
LaFleur is an A. Widely regarded as one of best wr coaches in football.

Tarver is an A? Laughable. I have no idea why he's so highly rated here.

LaFleur never coached WR's before....

Love the McDaniel and Turner hires, everyone else is a big ?????. I think it was a good move to keep Tarver.

The O-Line coaching hire will be very key

Feb 14, 2017 at 6:26 PM

zonkers
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Overall great offensive staff in my opinion.

But, you gave them a B-average.

I think the important thing is that it's a group Shanahan's comfortable with. To build up the offense, he's going to need coaches that understand his vision. He's not inheriting Ryan + Jones, so there'll be growing pains.

Feb 14, 2017 at 6:45 PM

LVJay
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I'm bumping your 3 Cs up a bit.

Shanny wouldn't give Scangarello and Hightower the nod if he thought of them as just Grade C.

Hafley should get at least a B for the talent he was dealt (decent, but not very good).

Feb 14, 2017 at 6:49 PM

LVJay
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As for Saleh, I can't argue with you there since he was only a position coach before becoming our DC, which is the one coordinator we needed to be a solid hire... hope he proves us doubters wrong. Shanny has confidence in him so, I don't hate the hire, I'm still just skeptical (for now).

Feb 14, 2017 at 7:32 PM

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gold49er2183
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Originally posted by zonkers:
Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Overall great offensive staff in my opinion.

But, you gave them a B-average.

I think the important thing is that it's a group Shanahan's comfortable with. To build up the offense, he's going to need coaches that understand his vision. He's not inheriting Ryan + Jones, so there'll be growing pains.

When you throw shanny in there

Feb 14, 2017 at 7:33 PM

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ComeOnDeberg
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So who would people rather have as DC or Robert Walsh?

Feb 14, 2017 at 7:48 PM

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Jcool
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C+ staff. Hopefully the fact they are all Shanahan guys is enough to over come lack of experience.

Feb 14, 2017 at 8:50 PM

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Let's see here... they've won zero games, they've lost zero games, scored and allowed zero points in zero games, they've developed zero players over the course of zero seasons... And they've shown a grand total of zero different schemes over the course of zero plays.

This is tough... I'm going to give them an N/A. Hopefully my grade turns out to be correct!

Feb 14, 2017 at 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
I -- Incomplete

Give it a few seasons and talent acquisition to determine that.

I'd go with this myself. I don't know jack about most of these guys. We'll just have to see how it plays out.