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Just great. Every defensive coach is going to have our scheme figured out by the start of the season. It's not cool to pay so much attention to a team that only went 6-10.
  • thl408
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Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Just great. Every defensive coach is going to have our scheme figured out by the start of the season. It's not cool to pay so much attention to a team that only went 6-10.

It's offensive coaches watching Kyle/McVay film to copy plays.
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:

Just great. Every defensive coach is going to have our scheme figured out by the start of the season. It's not cool to pay so much attention to a team that only went 6-10.
what do you suggest then ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
why would they have to wait for that ?
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Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
or at least wait till we get to 8 and 8
Coaches after watching film of Kyle's offense for 2018...

'Do we have LBs that run 4.4-4.5 in the 40? If not we might need to get one'
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
or at least wait till we get to 8 and 8
why would they have to wait for that ?
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
or at least wait till we get to 8 and 8

Huh. Coaches watch film of other coaches to copy stuff all the time. Hoodie learned from Chip Kelly about his spread offense concepts. What has Chip Kelly won?
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
or at least wait till we get to 8 and 8

Huh. Coaches watch film of other coaches to copy stuff all the time. Hoodie learned from Chip Kelly about his spread offense concepts. What has Chip Kelly won?
good point, i measure alot by just wins and losses.
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Originally posted by corona55569:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:

Sheer Genius! I don't think Harbaugh would have adjusted to the new rules as Kyle is doing so right now. He'd use the rules to get offsides and stuff, but I don't think his passing offense is sophisticated enough to morph into the best version for the current rules.


The same way Harbaugh adjusted and created a new offense from Alex Smith to Kap.....
Now Harbaugh on 4th and 1 with the same play over and over, bring in the extra lineman, is a different conversation : )

Anyways good job Shanahan

Harbaugh brought in speed to open up the underneath lanes, when that disappered - his offense disappeared. You have to credit Kyle for getting speed everywhere on his offense. That makes a big difference in QB reads, and really helps the QB. Much of the last years rule changes were in special teams and as to the lowering of the head rules - there's already a ton of rules regarding tackling defensless players and such, and only a real master of an offense can make the tweaks to the offense necessary to take advantage of those rules. Harbaugh was a good offensive coach in my opinion, but I don't think he had enough subtlety to take advantage of the current passing rules. He was more focused on simplicity and execution than strategy and tactics.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Coaches after watching film of Kyle's offense for 2018...

'Do we have LBs that run 4.4-4.5 in the 40? If not we might need to get one'

Rams...
Last week, one of the 49ers' most decorated players — Sherman — was beaten badly on a deep route by Goodwin during a one-on-one drill. It came during Sherman's first padded practice since he sustained a torn Achilles in November and video of Goodwin's domination went viral.
Shanahan, however, saw Sherman's effort as a great teaching moment. During a team meeting, he reviewed the play and noted that Sherman immediately tested himself against one of the league's fastest players.
The takeaway: Sherman's desire to improve in practice dwarfed his fear of failure. Shanahan is concerned that less-established players don't have the same mind-set in an age where training camps are scrutinized far closer than past years.
"That stuff worries me for players because now I'm afraid they're going to go there and be like, 'Man, I know you want to try this new thing, but I don't want this to go viral for the next week; I don't want people to say I can't throw this type of ball,'" Shanahan said. "Then they don't get better and they just try to survive the day so they can please people who don't really know what they're working on. It takes a very mentally strong person to not care about that."

Coach smart, some posters, not so much.
[ Edited by eastie on Aug 6, 2018 at 2:41 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
what do you suggest then ?

I suggest opposing teams wait until we win the super bowl before studying us and figuring out how we did it and copying us.
or at least wait till we get to 8 and 8
why would they have to wait for that ?

Coaches know an outstanding scheme when they see it. Just because certain posters refuse to believe it, Kyle is seen in the upper echelon of offensive X's and O's and has been for a while.

Also, McVay's offense is Kyle's offense. He basically took it from Kyle when he was an assistant in WAS under Mike and Kyle.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Aug 6, 2018 at 11:31 AM ]
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by illinois9er:
You are so silly lol. What exactly are you expecting Kyle to do, pull out our secret franchise QB that we have hidden in the wings? Beathard was a 3rd round pick for a reason. Do you think it's possible that Kyle knows that CJ isn't ready?

i am not sure what the coach really knows to be honest
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by cciowa:
if the team was as good as so many people said they were , they should have beaten the colts , hands down. no question but you know what . i hope they enjoy their shiny medal they got for just being there

So many more said we were not a good team, yet here you sit continuously taking the opinions of a few and trying to spin it as if it is the opinion of most.

For real..cc gottta give it a rest. Most of us knew this was gonna be a ugly first yr for many many reasons.

sorry, not going to get off that easy. i am addressing all of the people who are setting there saying we should have been 3-1 before sunday. if we are a 3-1 team like many think we are, then we should have wupped em bad. but no, we lost ugly again. you would think the narrative would change but no, now you got people saying. well now we should be 4-1 and 5-0. that is what i am talking about


Originally posted by cciowa:
and we were told kyle is god and can work with anyone. and hoyer had this best year with kyle so . not matter what. he should be doing well. of course the coaches thought it nice to dump a good weapon in kerley in favor of guys who drop the ball but thats beside the point


Originally posted by cciowa:
oh please,. when he was hired.. we were told he is a genius . he handpicked hoyer and we were told hoyer had some of his best moments with kyle so its a good fit for us. i think to many people want to change the script now that things are turning out bad and they do not want to face the facts that this ship is not sailing in some right direction like they all hoped it would


Originally posted by WINiner:
This thread is a perfect example of why I find it harder and harder to come to 49ers forums. Bunch of whiny, self-depreciating, babies. Grow the f**k up and behave like men, not millennial insta gratification teenagers, s**t! Shanahan will be fine, our team is already better than last year and it's eaaarrly. A completely new offense, a completely new defense and a complete roster overhaul is what we're working with. Chill the f**k out. Shanahan is obviously better than what we've had the last several years and if you can't see it then I'm sorry you're blind. Imo it's obvious and I am excited.
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