49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by dj43:
Seattle is averaging only 3.8 yards per rushing attempt. Total of 303 to date. Walker has almost that in one game this year. Without the ground game, they are not controlling games the way they were last year.

Seattle was 23rd in the NFL last year in yardage per attempt. 28th in epa/rush.

They weren't great last year because of Walker or their run game in general.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by dj43:
Seattle is averaging only 3.8 yards per rushing attempt. Total of 303 to date. Walker has almost that in one game this year. Without the ground game, they are not controlling games the way they were last year.

Seattle was 23rd in the NFL last year in yardage per attempt. 28th in epa/rush.

They weren't great last year because of Walker or their run game in general.

Yet they rode their run game all they to a SB win

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Yet they rode their run game all they to a SB win

Their run game was ineffective in the championship game, which was the only game they needed a quality offensive performance to win. 75 yards on 26 carries…

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Yet they rode their run game all they to a SB win

Their run game was ineffective in the championship game, which was the only game they needed a quality offensive performance to win. 75 yards on 26 carries…

i wouldn't say it was totally ineffective as stats don't tell the whole story.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i wouldn't say it was totally ineffective as stats don't tell the whole story.

It was ineffective in terms of production. Obviously the Rams focused on it, so that can help their passing offense. But the players still have to produce, and their passing offense came through when they needed it most.

It's basically the same thing that's happening to them so far this season. I think Price has faced the 6th most stacked boxes of any runner in football, and their run game hasn't been efficient. Meanwhile Drew Lock is top 3 in the commonly cited efficiency stats people use to judge QBs (passer rating, QBR, EPA/db).

I definitely agree stats don't tell the full story. That's one of the reasons I'm pushing back on the idea that the Seahawks averaging 3.8 yards a carry through three weeks shows any meaningful difference between this year's Seattle offense and last years. Teams will load up against the run and challenge them to be successful through the air, especially with a backup QB.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i wouldn't say it was totally ineffective as stats don't tell the whole story.

It was ineffective in terms of production. Obviously the Rams focused on it, so that can help their passing offense. But the players still have to produce, and their passing offense came through when they needed it most.

It's basically the same thing that's happening to them so far this season. I think Price has faced the 6th most stacked boxes of any runner in football, and their run game hasn't been efficient. Meanwhile Drew Lock is top 3 in the commonly cited efficiency stats people use to judge QBs (passer rating, QBR, EPA/db).

I definitely agree stats don't tell the full story. That's one of the reasons I'm pushing back on the idea that the Seahawks averaging 3.8 yards a carry through three weeks shows any meaningful difference between this year's Seattle offense and last years. Teams will load up against the run and challenge them to be successful through the air, especially with a backup QB.

KW did get over 100 scrimmage yards off of some play action check downs. They took what the Rams gave them and it worked out.

While Seattle's run game lacks last year and this year (i don't think 3.8 ypc is bad as it's still first down on 3 runs).. but i do think they would be better with KW.. as he can break one for a good distance if the Defense gets caught sleeping. They don't have anyone like that right now and i hope they don't find a guy like that this season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KW did get over 100 scrimmage yards off of some play action check downs. They took what the Rams gave them and it worked out.

While Seattle's run game lacks last year and this year (i don't think 3.8 ypc is bad as it's still first down on 3 runs).. but i do think they would be better with KW.. as he can break one for a good distance if the Defense gets caught sleeping. They don't have anyone like that right now and i hope they don't find a guy like that this season.

Hard to argue they wouldn't be better with Walker, but I don't think he's the difference between them being a great team or not. Given the circumstances (QB injury) and the small sample size generally, it's too early to tell what kind of player Price is going to be.

Lose a player like JSN and I bet we'd see a real difference with their offense… and they're going to live and die with their defense the vast majority of the time anyway.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KW did get over 100 scrimmage yards off of some play action check downs. They took what the Rams gave them and it worked out.

While Seattle's run game lacks last year and this year (i don't think 3.8 ypc is bad as it's still first down on 3 runs).. but i do think they would be better with KW.. as he can break one for a good distance if the Defense gets caught sleeping. They don't have anyone like that right now and i hope they don't find a guy like that this season.

Hard to argue they wouldn't be better with Walker, but I don't think he's the difference between them being a great team or not. Given the circumstances (QB injury) and the small sample size generally, it's too early to tell what kind of player Price is going to be.

Lose a player like JSN and I bet we'd see a real difference with their offense… and they're going to live and die with their defense the vast majority of the time anyway.

I agree it's Seattle's defensive line and secondary that won the superbowl. The offense just had to be good enough. JSN and Darnold had great chemistry and walker was there when needed. McDonald is a good D coach as well.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
KW did get over 100 scrimmage yards off of some play action check downs. They took what the Rams gave them and it worked out.

While Seattle's run game lacks last year and this year (i don't think 3.8 ypc is bad as it's still first down on 3 runs).. but i do think they would be better with KW.. as he can break one for a good distance if the Defense gets caught sleeping. They don't have anyone like that right now and i hope they don't find a guy like that this season.

Hard to argue they wouldn't be better with Walker, but I don't think he's the difference between them being a great team or not. Given the circumstances (QB injury) and the small sample size generally, it's too early to tell what kind of player Price is going to be.

Lose a player like JSN and I bet we'd see a real difference with their offense… and they're going to live and die with their defense the vast majority of the time anyway.

losing JSN would be huge. But they aren't that great with him. They should be 1-2 if Maye didn't screw up a hundred times.

Originally posted by bassmanr:
I agree it's Seattle's defensive line and secondary that won the superbowl. The offense just had to be good enough. JSN and Darnold had great chemistry and walker was there when needed. McDonald is a good D coach as well.

KW was there when needed? The Playoff MVP, The SB MVP, The most sought after FA, The guy carrying the Chiefs right now...

Right now, Teams just need to double team JSN and they're done

Kyle on the Wirfs debacle..

There are some that wishes he had canceled on us.....

3 coach changes the last 3 years.....

31st ranked Offense
32nd ranked Defense



I'm amazed Kyle took this job lol....

Kyle sure was handed a hot mess and it's great what he has been able to do. Just need to get that trophy, Valentine's Day, to celebrate the marriage of Brock and Kyle lol. This is the way.

Jed have had experience flying out for a quickie interview.