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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good article.

On the surface, there's no reason for Jacksonville's juggernaut defense to give up 37 points to an offense featuring middling skill talent like George Kittle, Trent Taylor, and Marquise Goodwin.

Shanahan, however, took Jacksonville defensive coordinator Todd Wash to the woodshed throughout the entire game. Shanahan stretched the field vertically and horizontally with his play-action passing attack, and Wash never had an answer for him.

Do the Jaguars have the coaching staff to maintain a postseason run? A closer look at the 49ers' obliteration of the Jaguars' defense shows some cause for concern.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2017/film-room-jaguars-defense

I agree, good article. I think their bigger problem is the lack of offense. I believe they lost a couple of WR's to injury in our game and one has an achillies tear? Anyway, the point is with regards to the Jag offense, if you stop the run, their QB - at least when they played us - was not an elite passer like a Rogers, Rothlesburger, or Brady. Our pass rush is mediocre even with the new players recently added on defense, and our defense was able to pick him off 3 times. Is the bad QB play because of a lack of good WR's or is it bad QB play, or a bit of both? But if they want to get to the NFC championship game, they need more consistent offense.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good article.




http://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2017/film-room-jaguars-defense

Nice find Phoenix. I enjoyed the article and it confirmed my thoughts on Kyle, however it did cast more doubt to me regarding Saleh, I've been one of his defenders, however his peak seems to be what Wash is doing and he's just been slated!

I still think he deserves the chance to try to evolve but I may be being naive
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Anyone still mad the team didn't get Gase?




Originally posted by Crown:
Anyone still mad the team didn't get Gase?





I remember really wanting Gase at the time. Definitely glad we don't have him now
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Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by Crown:
Anyone still mad the team didn't get Gase?





I remember really wanting Gase at the time. Definitely glad we don't have him now

Same
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by Crown:
Anyone still mad the team didn't get Gase?





I remember really wanting Gase at the time. Definitely glad we don't have him now

Same

I remember not really liking Gase in a vacuum since he really only seemed to do well with Peyton Manning. Still, with Harbaugh leaving I was desperate for any kind of intriguing candidate and settled my mind on being good with hiring him... and then... yeah
Juszczyk is gonna be a weapon next year, I bet he has over 500 yards receiving next year. Impossible to cover on the power play action him running out into a pattern.
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good article.

On the surface, there's no reason for Jacksonville's juggernaut defense to give up 37 points to an offense featuring middling skill talent like George Kittle, Trent Taylor, and Marquise Goodwin.

Shanahan, however, took Jacksonville defensive coordinator Todd Wash to the woodshed throughout the entire game. Shanahan stretched the field vertically and horizontally with his play-action passing attack, and Wash never had an answer for him.

Do the Jaguars have the coaching staff to maintain a postseason run? A closer look at the 49ers' obliteration of the Jaguars' defense shows some cause for concern.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/film-room/2017/film-room-jaguars-defense

I agree, good article. I think their bigger problem is the lack of offense. I believe they lost a couple of WR's to injury in our game and one has an achillies tear? Anyway, the point is with regards to the Jag offense, if you stop the run, their QB - at least when they played us - was not an elite passer like a Rogers, Rothlesburger, or Brady. Our pass rush is mediocre even with the new players recently added on defense, and our defense was able to pick him off 3 times. Is the bad QB play because of a lack of good WR's or is it bad QB play, or a bit of both? But if they want to get to the NFC championship game, they need more consistent offense.

Awesome article. I don't think there was a lack of offense and although I agree with more talent at receiver it help. However, the article seems to vett out another issue; Jags force JG into an interception vs a TD because of the pass rush. In essence, we're back to the highest priority I think should be addressed this off season: OL. If JG has time, this is another TD not to mention how a better OL improves run game production. We only saw a slightly off balance Jags. Now imagine what play action looks like when we're gashing them 4.5/5/5.5 ypc.

Totally agree on the O LIne. That's a top priority along with a LEO.

I was looking at the practice squad O Linemen that we have, and it's interesting that most (if not all) of the practice squad linemen can run like hell. A couple of them (I forget which ones) I looked at their 40 yard speed via their scouting reports, and they are up there in the 5.0 to 6.0 category. He doesn't like O Linemen that can't run fast.
[ Edited by Giedi on Dec 29, 2017 at 6:35 AM ]
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Originally posted by footballxpaul:
Juszczyk is gonna be a weapon next year, I bet he has over 500 yards receiving next year. Impossible to cover on the power play action him running out into a pattern.
This guy is fast, for a 240 lb fullback he's almost as fast as some high round RB draft picks. It seems everything Kyle does is fast. Including his players. Goodwin - Fast! Joe Williams - Fast! O LIneman Darrell Williams - his scouting report says the guy can run a 40 in 5.34 seconds!
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Awesome article. I don't think there was a lack of offense and although I agree with more talent at receiver it help. However, the article seems to vett out another issue; Jags force JG into an interception vs a TD because of the pass rush. In essence, we're back to the highest priority I think should be addressed this off season: OL. If JG has time, this is another TD not to mention how a better OL improves run game production. We only saw a slightly off balance Jags. Now imagine what play action looks like when we're gashing them 4.5/5/5.5 ypc.

Yep. If not to Bourne then he had an easy throw to Goodwin if he just had another second to throw it. ` I have 100% faith in Shanahan to draw up plays to get guys open and for Garoppolo to find them when they do. I have close to 0% faith in this OL to hold up whenever Jimmy needs that extra second or so to throw it.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by Crown:
Anyone still mad the team didn't get Gase?





I remember really wanting Gase at the time. Definitely glad we don't have him now

Same

I remember not really liking Gase in a vacuum since he really only seemed to do well with Peyton Manning. Still, with Harbaugh leaving I was desperate for any kind of intriguing candidate and settled my mind on being good with hiring him... and then... yeah

I was never on the Gase train. Seemed overrated. And hasn't proven himself like Kyle Shanahan did with Atlanta. Gase solid hire but too early to be HC material.

Miami got some talent on both side of the ball when he got there. They should be doing much better than what they have been doing.
I just love this guy!


#WinningCulture
Originally posted by NCommand:
I just love this guy!


#WinningCulture

How it always should be. People complaining about dropping in draft ranking is laughable.
[ Edited by VaBeachNiner on Dec 29, 2017 at 10:19 AM ]
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I just love this guy!


#WinningCulture

How it always should be. People complaining about dropping in draft ranking is laughable.

The 1-15 or 7-9 thread is full of that kind of thinking.
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That old saying, something about how good a good QB makes a coach look, or was it how good a coach is that makes a QB look, awwwww heck, or how good a good player and coach is good that makes the team good.....whatever, you know what I mean
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