49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by genus49:
And that's a wonderful take if we ignore the actual game.

The decision was fine. The result wasn't.

Kyle explained his reasoning and it's very logical for anyone simply not looking to blame him for the loss.

Why live in fear of a TD by an offense who hasn't been able to get a single TD drive in 6 quarters? Chiefs could've said anything after winning but we have no idea what happens if the defense does their job and stop them within FG range and a 4th and long situation. They very well could've kicked a FG to tie it up again giving us the ability to win with the next score.

So what's happening instead of analyzing what actually happened Charlie and others are using hindsight to bash Kyle's decision and imagining scenarios which didn't actually play out. Personally I find that a silly way to make a point.

CMC shouldn't have fumbled first drive deep not chiefs territory. Luter shouldn't have had his special teams gaffe

I don't even blame Luter. He was a rookie who should've been waved off. I 10000% blame McCloud who IMO is the biggest reason we lost that game. The fact that pos claimed he would do it AGAIN cuz he was trying to make a play tells me everything I need to know about him.

Like nobody needed you to make a play. We needed possession of that football. KC wasn't doing anything. You jump on the ball and you make sure we keep possession. Let the offense with all those guys on it make the plays...hell you can contribute on offense, AFTER we maintain possession.

But no, we handed them the football, instantly flipped momentum and allowed them to score their only TD in like 4/5 quarters. No doubt in my mind if he falls on that football we win that game.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
We've had our ends crash down on the RB for years that's not on Nick. That's on Wilks for not having someone to account for Mahomes keeper. One of several cardinal sins he saved for that drive.

He doesn't care. The player should do whatever he wants. Set a great example for others, like Spencer Burford.

Ya.....its to win the SB. Ask for forgivness later.

Sure worked out for Spencer!

It's called sniffing out the play and blowing it up like the greats do. If he does that we have a ring

Buuutt noooo "Spencer Burford messed up, we can't expect Bosa to have enough instinct and feel for the game to make a sb winning play!"

Expecting a DE with scheme responsibilities to make a 4th and 1 play like that is a casual take. You're the same guy talking about Andy Reid's magic plays but somehow Bosa should've sniffed it out? It was a great playcall by them against what we had out there.

They kept calling option plays that whole drive and handing off. If Bosa stayed outside they probably would've handed off there too since they only had 1 yard to gain. He did what he's coached to do and then it was over. Kelce coming across, Rice out there in space too. Mahomes took the safe pickup with his legs.

Expecting Bosa to come flying in to bring Mahomes down is just a casual take. Especially with Kelce coming across like that. If Nick goes for Mahomes he's getting rocked on that play.

Just a good playcall vs what we had...that happened a lot on that drive.

Originally posted by genus49:

Expecting a DE with scheme responsibilities to make a 4th and 1 play like that is a casual take. You're the same guy talking about Andy Reid's magic plays but somehow Bosa should've sniffed it out? It was a great playcall by them against what we had out there.

They kept calling option plays that whole drive and handing off. If Bosa stayed outside they probably would've handed off there too since they only had 1 yard to gain. He did what he's coached to do and then it was over. Kelce coming across, Rice out there in space too. Mahomes took the safe pickup with his legs.

Expecting Bosa to come flying in to bring Mahomes down is just a casual take. Especially with Kelce coming across like that. If Nick goes for Mahomes he's getting rocked on that play.

Just a good playcall vs what we had...that happened a lot on that drive.

My problem is yelling "Spencer Burford" as if that means Bosa shouldn't go make a play to win the SB. Nobody said it's an easy play, but Bosa should be a guy that we want to play on instinct, and using Burford as an excuse for him just don't work

And if you look at the line and the RBs fake (he wasn't going downhill at all) Mahomes was keeping that the whole way. It was a run pass option for Mahomes, and Kelce was getting out on a route to the flat, he wasn't trying to touch Bosa

We could have lined Tony frickin Romo up at DE and he would have had the instincts to affect that play more than our dpoy did. Here's his comments after the play

"Do you really think you would ever, with the sb on the line, just say Patrick give it somebody else? He's the running back always under a 4th down situation with the game on the line. Do not ever fall for the running play on 4th down ever again"

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
Expecting a DE with scheme responsibilities to make a 4th and 1 play like that is a casual take. You're the same guy talking about Andy Reid's magic plays but somehow Bosa should've sniffed it out? It was a great playcall by them against what we had out there.

They kept calling option plays that whole drive and handing off. If Bosa stayed outside they probably would've handed off there too since they only had 1 yard to gain. He did what he's coached to do and then it was over. Kelce coming across, Rice out there in space too. Mahomes took the safe pickup with his legs.

Expecting Bosa to come flying in to bring Mahomes down is just a casual take. Especially with Kelce coming across like that. If Nick goes for Mahomes he's getting rocked on that play.

Just a good playcall vs what we had...that happened a lot on that drive.

My problem is yelling "Spencer Burford" as if that means Bosa shouldn't go make a play to win the SB. Nobody said it's an easy play, but Bosa should be a guy that we want to play on instinct, and using Burford as an excuse for him just don't work

And if you look at the line and the RBs fake (he wasn't going downhill at all) Mahomes was keeping that the whole way. It was a run pass option for Mahomes, and Kelce was getting out on a route to the flat, he wasn't trying to touch Bosa

The problem with that is you can't give players crap for freelancing when doing so gives up big plays - which btw is typically what happens when guys don't do their job and "try to make a play"

We literally had that in several guys in that SB who cost us the game more than Bosa's inability to make a tough play on 4th and 1 vs one of the best QBs in the sport.

You had Burford "going with his gut" and not doing what his responsibility is on the play and blowing our opportunity to go up by a TD in OT.
You had McCloud "trying to make a play" and allowing KC to get possession of the football inside our 20 yard line instantly flipping momentum and totally changing that game.

This is the Kyle Shanahan thread and you and others have no problem blaming him for things he shouldn't even get blame for and yet here we are where a player does his job that he's coached to do and you have a problem there too.

Pick a lane.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We could have lined Tony frickin Romo up at DE and he would have had the instincts to affect that play more than our dpoy did. Here's his comments after the play

"Do you really think you would ever, with the sb on the line, just say Patrick give it somebody else? He's the running back always under a 4th down situation with the game on the line. Do not ever fall for the running play on 4th down ever again"

Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

The football IQ on this board gets lower every year.

Originally posted by genus49:

The problem with that is you can't give players crap for freelancing when doing so gives up big plays - which btw is typically what happens when guys don't do their job and "try to make a play"

We literally had that in several guys in that SB who cost us the game more than Bosa's inability to make a tough play on 4th and 1 vs one of the best QBs in the sport.

You had Burford "going with his gut" and not doing what his responsibility is on the play and blowing our opportunity to go up by a TD in OT.
You had McCloud "trying to make a play" and allowing KC to get possession of the football inside our 20 yard line instantly flipping momentum and totally changing that game.

This is the Kyle Shanahan thread and you and others have no problem blaming him for things he shouldn't even get blame for and yet here we are where a player does his job that he's coached to do and you have a problem there too.

Pick a lane.

Great players have the instinct to go off script. Burford doesn't change that. Didn't you watch guys like Polamalu? Sorry if I'd like to see the dpoy show that kind of greatness on a big play

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We could have lined Tony frickin Romo up at DE and he would have had the instincts to affect that play more than our dpoy did. Here's his comments after the play

"Do you really think you would ever, with the sb on the line, just say Patrick give it somebody else? He's the running back always under a 4th down situation with the game on the line. Do not ever fall for the running play on 4th down ever again"

Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

A source for what? Its PM on 4th down in OT of a SB and he not accounted for. Its a read option run play, you have proection inside, how about account for PM. Seems like anyone could have said that comment that watched the play.

Bosa crashes inside without reading the play. If he wasnt outside contain and the assignment was blown or a bad play call, then why didnt he not recognize that and hedge towards Mahomes.

Originally posted by genus49:

Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

2:26:40

Originally posted by Quituguam671:
Get a Superbowl winning GM that'll challenge Kyle and bring out the best in him. Also, drafting and building our O-Lines like the 90's Cowboys and D-Lines like our past D Lines, draft pass rushers and build our D like how Jim Harbaugh or George Seifert had them...

There hasn't been a o line like the cowboys of the 90s since the cowboys of the 90s.

Our D is built like Harbaugh. Having the same results too due to only having decent level cb play and safeties that can't cover worth a damn,

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We could have lined Tony frickin Romo up at DE and he would have had the instincts to affect that play more than our dpoy did. Here's his comments after the play

"Do you really think you would ever, with the sb on the line, just say Patrick give it somebody else? He's the running back always under a 4th down situation with the game on the line. Do not ever fall for the running play on 4th down ever again"

Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

A source for what? Its PM on 4th down in OT of a SB and he not accounted for. Its a read option run play, you have proection inside, how about account for PM. Seems like anyone could have said that comment that watched the play.

Bosa crashes inside without reading the play. If he wasnt outside contain and the assignment was blown or a bad play call, then why didnt he not recognize that and hedge towards Mahomes.

Romo wouldn't have done s**t lol

that's the last guy you want closing out games

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Romo wouldn't have done s**t lol

that's the last guy you want closing out games

not true, he would have been saying 'this is why mahomes is so amazing' as he's getting trucked

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
We could have lined Tony frickin Romo up at DE and he would have had the instincts to affect that play more than our dpoy did. Here's his comments after the play

"Do you really think you would ever, with the sb on the line, just say Patrick give it somebody else? He's the running back always under a 4th down situation with the game on the line. Do not ever fall for the running play on 4th down ever again"

Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

A source for what? Its PM on 4th down in OT of a SB and he not accounted for. Its a read option run play, you have proection inside, how about account for PM. Seems like anyone could have said that comment that watched the play.

Bosa crashes inside without reading the play. If he wasnt outside contain and the assignment was blown or a bad play call, then why didnt he not recognize that and hedge towards Mahomes.

Romo wouldn't have done s**t lol

that's the last guy you want closing out games

Doesnt matter who said it

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
Site your source please. I don't remember seeing this quote.

2:26:40

I thought you were talking about Bosa. Why the hell would I care what Tony Romo said AFTER watching the play? Get real...