49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The overtime issue is so overblown. It's flak to cover up the fact that the D didn't do their job. If they had then people would say Kyle did the right thing.

People who understood the situation knew it was the wrong decision the moment it was made. The defense doing its job would have bailed Kyle out, but it wouldn't have made it the right decision

Only because it didn't work it was the wrong decision

the defense kept KC in check the entire game. Kyle rested the defense after a long drive by KC late in the 4th. Wills then decided to play prevent defense in OT and that was that

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
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If Kyle is a failure for his resume then Reid was also. Why didn't his magic plays work before?

So your saying Reid "used" to be a failure?

I can see that.

Why is Reid no longer a failure?

Why is Kyle

stop acting like we picked 1 and KC picked 2. Your hindsight BS is nothing but BS trolling.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Only because it didn't work it was the wrong decision

the defense kept KC in check the entire game. Kyle rested the defense after a long drive by KC late in the 4th. Wills then decided to play prevent defense in OT and that was that

It is statistically the wrong decision before the outcome of the game is even decided. The team can still bail their coach out, but it's the wrong decision

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Only because it didn't work it was the wrong decision

the defense kept KC in check the entire game. Kyle rested the defense after a long drive by KC late in the 4th. Wills then decided to play prevent defense in OT and that was that

It is statistically the wrong decision before the outcome of the game is even decided. The team can still bail their coach out, but it's the wrong decision

You act like analytics had it 90 to 10 to take the ball 2nd. It's 50/50 and fractions of the point actually in FAVOR of taking the ball first.

Kyle used information from that actual game to make the call and what he actually had control over should've won us a SB so all your complaining about it is a nothing burger take.

This is simply another example of some of you ignoring details to make broad statements with little behind them but hindsight.

Reality was neither team really needed that critical 4th down that you hang so much of your take on. 49ers only 4th down happened after Burford's epic fail which should've been a TD play - a 4th down we kicked a FG on.

KC had a 4th and 1 on their 34 yard line. Down and distance they would've gone for even if they had the ball first 100%.

So what exactly is the fail by Kyle's coaching? Maybe not enough timeouts to make the calls for Wilks?

Longest 10 days ever.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
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If Kyle is a failure for his resume then Reid was also. Why didn't his magic plays work before?

People keep saying he's trolling and the fact that he appears to not follow the clear point here makes me think maybe they're right.

Originally posted by genus49:

You act like analytics had it 90 to 10 to take the ball 2nd. It's 50/50 and fractions of the point actually in FAVOR of taking the ball first.

Kyle used information from that actual game to make the call and what he actually had control over should've won us a SB so all your complaining about it is a nothing burger take.

This is simply another example of some of you ignoring details to make broad statements with little behind them but hindsight.

Reality was neither team really needed that critical 4th down that you hang so much of your take on. 49ers only 4th down happened after Burford's epic fail which should've been a TD play - a 4th down we kicked a FG on.

KC had a 4th and 1 on their 34 yard line. Down and distance they would've gone for even if they had the ball first 100%.

So what exactly is the fail by Kyle's coaching? Maybe not enough timeouts to make the calls for Wilks?

The team that actually planned for OT was jumping with joy when we chose to receive. The team that actually thought it through knew they were going to kick days before the game. There are advantages to kicking/disadvantages to receiving that ended up coming into play that game, so it makes it even worse for Kyle

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
Stop this nonsense. Shanahan dialed up a play that had 2 guys wide open for TDs. Issue was he didn't have a DC like Spags to stop a mid level offense from marching down the field and scoring a TD.

I can't get over how stupid the "Shanahan didn't prepare for SB OT" narrative is. He literally did exactly what he needed to do but other people failed him and the rest of the squad.

And enough with the "go to plays" baloney. Where were all these magic plays his first 18 years in the league?

He didn't dial that up. Aiyuks defender fell and Jennings beat his man. What Andy did was dial it up. Kelce laughing and watching Hardman score on the Jumbotron during the play. That's dialing it up

Shanahan had no plan for OT. The players seemed confused that there could even be OT

Maybe Andy didn't have them in his first 18 years, but he has them now, and he outcoached Kyle with them

My god man...

In your opinion drawing up plays is when guys just get wide open without beating their man? You know what leads to stuff like that happening? The defensive calls and scheme.

Shanahan called a play vs a much better defense and DC that had two receivers wide open for TDs. Jennings was the one drawn up but the overall call was a would be game winner if Burford does the job he's coached to do.

And my god man how ridiculous do you want to get here...the players seemed confused that there could even be OT???

What Andy didn't have in his first 18 years is Patrick Mahomes whose presence creates a whole different problem for defenses. But sure...it's his magic plays. Wonder what happened to them last year or in all those playoff games they lost. Guess he was saving them for our games?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The team that actually planned for OT was jumping with joy when we chose to receive. The team that actually thought it through knew they were going to kick days before the game. There are advantages to kicking/disadvantages to receiving that ended up coming into play that game, so it makes it even worse for Kyle

Oh you expect them to cry and mope? I'm pretty sure had Burford done his job they wouldn't be so excited.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The overtime issue is so overblown. It's flak to cover up the fact that the D didn't do their job. If they had then people would say Kyle did the right thing.

People who understood the situation knew it was the wrong decision the moment it was made. The defense doing its job would have bailed Kyle out, but it wouldn't have made it the right decision

Once again analytics had it 50/50. You're using hindsight to complain about something that is based on the moment of that game. The decision Shanahan made was logical. The result was a loss and you and others can claim it was this giant mistake when reality says it was not.

He had the team march down the field and had a TD play called which would've given us a TD lead in OT. That is what you want. Our DC picked the worst time to have his worst calls and we couldn't defend the 3 points AGAIN. Something Kyle tried to give him more time to figure out how to do.

There were a hell of a lot more problems in that SB than the OT decision.

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again analytics had it 50/50. You're using hindsight to complain about something that is based on the moment of that game. The decision Shanahan made was logical. The result was a loss and you and others can claim it was this giant mistake when reality says it was not.

He had the team march down the field and had a TD play called which would've given us a TD lead in OT. That is what you want. Our DC picked the worst time to have his worst calls and we couldn't defend the 3 points AGAIN. Something Kyle tried to give him more time to figure out how to do.

There were a hell of a lot more problems in that SB than the OT decision.

just frustrating we essentially got a do over super bowl vs kc and couldn't make much headway. the D actually played very well that game until mahomes started figuring it out late. got tip your cap to reid and spags and patrick those are legends it just sucks i go back to the super bowl 54 and we had the 10 point lead in the 4th with an elite D front it was that 3rd and 15 bull chit that's what got us you just gotta think it all happens for a reason it will make the super bowl win that much sweeter for kyle and co it will be like steve getting the monkey off

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
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If Kyle is a failure for his resume then Reid was also. Why didn't his magic plays work before?

People keep saying he's trolling and the fact that he appears to not follow the clear point here makes me think maybe they're right.

Thats just the PR department company line.

Pointing out facts isn't trolling, just bad for business LOL

Fact is, as much as I hate the outcome of the super bowls they are what they are.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
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If Kyle is a failure for his resume then Reid was also. Why didn't his magic plays work before?

People keep saying he's trolling and the fact that he appears to not follow the clear point here makes me think maybe they're right.

Thats just the PR department company line.

Pointing out facts isn't trolling, just bad for business LOL

Fact is, as much as I hate the outcome of the super bowls they are what they are.

that's right, and the results aren't changing no matter how much we rant and rave on here. gotta hope we get the next one. no reason we can't do it seattle isn't as good as we are we were down half our team last season

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:
Once again analytics had it 50/50. You're using hindsight to complain about something that is based on the moment of that game. The decision Shanahan made was logical. The result was a loss and you and others can claim it was this giant mistake when reality says it was not.

He had the team march down the field and had a TD play called which would've given us a TD lead in OT. That is what you want. Our DC picked the worst time to have his worst calls and we couldn't defend the 3 points AGAIN. Something Kyle tried to give him more time to figure out how to do.

There were a hell of a lot more problems in that SB than the OT decision.

just frustrating we essentially got a do over super bowl vs kc and couldn't make much headway. the D actually played very well that game until mahomes started figuring it out late. got tip your cap to reid and spags and patrick those are legends it just sucks i go back to the super bowl 54 and we had the 10 point lead in the 4th with an elite D front it was that 3rd and 15 bull chit that's what got us you just gotta think it all happens for a reason it will make the super bowl win that much sweeter for kyle and co it will be like steve getting the monkey off

Defense was playing very well, when Greenlaw went out it really hurt us though. I knew at the time they would go after our backup and it opened up their offense.

The reality is they were a mid level offense all year long and even in the playoffs. Hadn't scored a single TD in 6 quarters that wasn't them getting a gift inside our own 20.

Wilks' playcalling on that OT drive was so bad I'll never be able to forgive that guy. Which is another reason I get annoyed when people bring up OT decision as a reason we lost. It's football. We simply didn't do our job.

The end goal doesn't change if you take the ball 2nd. You want to score the most points and stop the other team from scoring theirs.

People acting like the OT rules were so crazy like a FG in OT counts as 10 points. Same rules. Same goal.

Originally posted by genus49:

My god man...

In your opinion drawing up plays is when guys just get wide open without beating their man? You know what leads to stuff like that happening? The defensive calls and scheme.

Shanahan called a play vs a much better defense and DC that had two receivers wide open for TDs. Jennings was the one drawn up but the overall call was a would be game winner if Burford does the job he's coached to do.

And my god man how ridiculous do you want to get here...the players seemed confused that there could even be OT???

What Andy didn't have in his first 18 years is Patrick Mahomes whose presence creates a whole different problem for defenses. But sure...it's his magic plays. Wonder what happened to them last year or in all those playoff games they lost. Guess he was saving them for our games?

Dialing it up is running a play for a specific guy. Like dialing up a deep shot to somebody. Or the Hardman play

Kyle just ran a play. That is not dialing it up