49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Sorry young fans but this ain't just about you. You don't have the skin in the game that we do. You don't have and can't spend and haven't spent the money or the time on the game that we do. You don't get to rewrite what we've witnessed just because you want to throw a hissy fit over having not seen us win a chip yourself. We've won 5 of 60 Super Bowls. Only two of 32 teams have won more. That doesn't change just because YOU didn't get to witness the wins

Grow up and be patient and our time will come again. Folks are whining because right now there's only a handful of teams that fared better than our MASH unit of a team this year not realizing that there are at a minimum 25 teams worse off than us. Fully healthy we're at minimum a top 5 team and we are still in this

You dont get to be taken seriously just because at the moment we aren't one of one. You just listen to SEA and Rams players and their fans and they'll all say that the 49ers are their most hated rival and that's for a reason. They hate us the most but respect each other because they know we are the measure of the franchise they hope to be. They are chasing our ghosts. Everyone hates the best because they know they can't measure up to this franchise and I'm old enough to know why

Some of you need to reevaluate why you're a 49er fan in the he first place. I've been a fan and I've seen fans come and go and players too but I've stayed in the fight and some of you fans I'd advise to do the same and wear your colors and rep your team

As to the coach, the whole doggone league trying to find the next Shanahan and we see that amongst the coaching hires

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by braap49er:

Seahawks are expected to hire 49ers tight ends coach Brian Fleury as their offensive coordinator, per sources. Fleury will replace Klint Kubiak, who became the Raiders head coach. pic.twitter.com/1cZH9Raj4b

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 15, 2026

surprise

They're playing 4D chess now. Hired one of ours as OC. Hired the Ravens DC as their LB coach. They have a salary cap double ours. The rich get richer…

4D chess...look up what Fleury's job title was this year.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by eastie:
We've already won FIVE!!!

Yeah but you have to be like 40 in order to have a memory of any of them. For 49ers fans that are 30 and younger, they may as well not even exist.

I get the sentiment, but that's not how it works.

It's the same dumb attitude that ignores the pre-SB champions. "But the league was different then." And it wasn't different in 1970 vs. 1990 vs. 2010 vs. now? Those differences matter less because they are all in the SB era?

49ers are still 8 behind the Packers for championships, and the Seahawks are 11 behind the Packers.

Packers - 13
Bears - 9
Giants - 8
Steelers/Patriots - 6
49ers/Cowboys/Commanders/Eagles - 5
Rams/Browns/Lions/Chiefs/Colts - 4
Raiders/Broncos - 3
Ravens/Buccaneers/Seahawks/Dolphins/Cardinals - 2
Saints/Jets - 1
Chargers/Jaguars/Texans/Bills/Titans/Bengals/Vikings/Panthers/Falcons - 0

The Packers won their "championships" in a league with less than 15 teams. Four of them with around 10 teams. Five of those "championships" came because the team with the best record automatically made it to their version of the "Super Bowl".

So yeah, I think it's safe to say we can 'ignore' the pre-SB standards because there were no standards. You basically made the Super Bowl with the best regular season record, which if this was the case now I'm sure we'd have like 15-16 SB rings to boot.

Oh god...I actually agree with you. What a day.

Yes sorry but if you have to win just 1 game to get a Championship that doesn't move me in the least bit. The SB era may be different rule wise so it's hard to compare but in the end teams still had to win at least 3 games in the post season to be crowned SB Champs(hell I'd take away one of those GB SBs while we're at it but even then they had to win 2 games)

Originally posted by captveg:
The 49ers won most their championships in a league with 28 teams, only two rounds of playoffs, no free agency, no salary cap, and basically made the SB because of best regular season record.

Those don't count either. Only 2017 and later count. Every chamion before then is ancient and dumb.

Thems the rules because I say so.

People can draw the line wherever they arbitrarily choose. I happen to include all NFL seasons. Do you also discount all World Series champions before 1969? How about before 1995?

They all count in my book.

Maybe only champions from 17-game seasons with 14-playoff teams should count.

Chiefs - 2
Rams/Eagles/Seahawks - 1
Everyone else - 0

That's it. Every other prior champion was in ancient days under different rules.

I'm sorry what?

Not even sure what you're doing here but making the comparison to winning 1 game and having the talent pool stretched between 12-15 teams vs 28(DOUBLE) to somehow put down the accomplishments of the team you root for is crazy to me.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by eastie:
We've already won FIVE!!!

Yeah but you have to be like 40 in order to have a memory of any of them. For 49ers fans that are 30 and younger, they may as well not even exist.

I get the sentiment, but that's not how it works.

It's the same dumb attitude that ignores the pre-SB champions. "But the league was different then." And it wasn't different in 1970 vs. 1990 vs. 2010 vs. now? Those differences matter less because they are all in the SB era?

49ers are still 8 behind the Packers for championships, and the Seahawks are 11 behind the Packers.

Packers - 13
Bears - 9
Giants - 8
Steelers/Patriots - 6
49ers/Cowboys/Commanders/Eagles - 5
Rams/Browns/Lions/Chiefs/Colts - 4
Raiders/Broncos - 3
Ravens/Buccaneers/Seahawks/Dolphins/Cardinals - 2
Saints/Jets - 1
Chargers/Jaguars/Texans/Bills/Titans/Bengals/Vikings/Panthers/Falcons - 0

The Packers won their "championships" in a league with less than 15 teams. Four of them with around 10 teams. Five of those "championships" came because the team with the best record automatically made it to their version of the "Super Bowl".

So yeah, I think it's safe to say we can 'ignore' the pre-SB standards because there were no standards. You basically made the Super Bowl with the best regular season record, which if this was the case now I'm sure we'd have like 15-16 SB rings to boot.

Oh god...I actually agree with you. What a day.

Yes sorry but if you have to win just 1 game to get a Championship that doesn't move me in the least bit. The SB era may be different rule wise so it's hard to compare but in the end teams still had to win at least 3 games in the post season to be crowned SB Champs(hell I'd take away one of those GB SBs while we're at it but even then they had to win 2 games)

Seems to me a Championship is a Championship. Teams can only play under the rules and competition available to them at the time. Just because there were fewer teams in the league during the Packer's heyday doesn't mean their Championships are any less worthy of consideration.

Ah. I see now we've reverted to the "present value of past championships" discussion. Like they're the opposite of money and slowly lose a magical quantifiable amount of value over time.

Personally—I think it's up to you how much a past championship is worth. It's all a matter of perspective.

For me, the five Super Bowls don't mean much because I wasn't alive for any of them. They're fun to watch highlights of but that's it. But if you were alive for them and they were the best days of your life, hey who am I to say those memories aren't still good for you to look back on? I also don't think there's some magical formula that says the later the year the Super Bowl was won, the more valuable it is, but I think everyone can agree a Super Bowl from 2025 is certainly more fresh in the general population's minds and memories than a Super Bowl from 1995.

All of that said, if—just theoretically speaking don't get too excited here—we were to win two Super Bowls in the next few years before the Patriots/Steelers win one, you bet I'm gonna talk about how we have the most rings, lol.

Comparing the number of championships doesn't make sense since the league has kept expanding . Six of the Packers titles were won before the 49ers and Rams were even teams.

Can't live on past SB's - we need to win now.

I don't think it will be this year - IMO, too many holes; especially on the OLine.

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by eastie:
We've already won FIVE!!!

Yeah but you have to be like 40 in order to have a memory of any of them. For 49ers fans that are 30 and younger, they may as well not even exist.

I get the sentiment, but that's not how it works.

It's the same dumb attitude that ignores the pre-SB champions. "But the league was different then." And it wasn't different in 1970 vs. 1990 vs. 2010 vs. now? Those differences matter less because they are all in the SB era?

49ers are still 8 behind the Packers for championships, and the Seahawks are 11 behind the Packers.

Packers - 13
Bears - 9
Giants - 8
Steelers/Patriots - 6
49ers/Cowboys/Commanders/Eagles - 5
Rams/Browns/Lions/Chiefs/Colts - 4
Raiders/Broncos - 3
Ravens/Buccaneers/Seahawks/Dolphins/Cardinals - 2
Saints/Jets - 1
Chargers/Jaguars/Texans/Bills/Titans/Bengals/Vikings/Panthers/Falcons - 0

The Packers won their "championships" in a league with less than 15 teams. Four of them with around 10 teams. Five of those "championships" came because the team with the best record automatically made it to their version of the "Super Bowl".

So yeah, I think it's safe to say we can 'ignore' the pre-SB standards because there were no standards. You basically made the Super Bowl with the best regular season record, which if this was the case now I'm sure we'd have like 15-16 SB rings to boot.

Oh god...I actually agree with you. What a day.

Yes sorry but if you have to win just 1 game to get a Championship that doesn't move me in the least bit. The SB era may be different rule wise so it's hard to compare but in the end teams still had to win at least 3 games in the post season to be crowned SB Champs(hell I'd take away one of those GB SBs while we're at it but even then they had to win 2 games)

Seems to me a Championship is a Championship. Teams can only play under the rules and competition available to them at the time. Just because there were fewer teams in the league during the Packer's heyday doesn't mean their Championships are any less worthy of consideration.

I disagree. The NFL is the one sports league in America that has a lose and go home situation in every game.

How many times do you think if the 2007 Patriots play the 2007 Giants that the Giants win? If you have an off day once out of 100 times...it doesn't matter if your team is better. You lost.

Packers have 3 "Championships" where they simply had the best record in a league with teams like the "Providence Steam Rollers". Think the Patriots in 2007 would like that level of Championship criteria?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Sorry young fans but this ain't just about you. You don't have the skin in the game that we do. You don't have and can't spend and haven't spent the money or the time on the game that we do. You don't get to rewrite what we've witnessed just because you want to throw a hissy fit over having not seen us win a chip yourself. We've won 5 of 60 Super Bowls. Only two of 32 teams have won more. That doesn't change just because YOU didn't get to witness the wins

Grow up and be patient and our time will come again. Folks are whining because right now there's only a handful of teams that fared better than our MASH unit of a team this year not realizing that there are at a minimum 25 teams worse off than us. Fully healthy we're at minimum a top 5 team and we are still in this

You dont get to be taken seriously just because at the moment we aren't one of one. You just listen to SEA and Rams players and their fans and they'll all say that the 49ers are their most hated rival and that's for a reason. They hate us the most but respect each other because they know we are the measure of the franchise they hope to be. They are chasing our ghosts. Everyone hates the best because they know they can't measure up to this franchise and I'm old enough to know why

Some of you need to reevaluate why you're a 49er fan in the he first place. I've been a fan and I've seen fans come and go and players too but I've stayed in the fight and some of you fans I'd advise to do the same and wear your colors and rep your team

As to the coach, the whole doggone league trying to find the next Shanahan and we see that amongst the coaching hires

Lol. Unless you're in your mid 40s and over chances are you do not remember most or any of those super bowls. And chances are those fans got to enjoy those at a young age, whether they were children, teenagers, or young adults.

fans that are in their 30s now most likely never got to see or appreciate those teams, and I'd hardly call them "young fans". So the whole, "you whipper snappers just don't get it" take doesn't work anymore

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Can't live on past SB's - we need to win now.

I don't think it will be this year - IMO, too many holes; especially on the OLine.

Really its LG and C that need to be upgraded urgently.

Williams is still Williams, if healthy, LT is locked down for next season.

Puni was dealing with some injuries, hopefully he can return to his rookie form.

McKivitz is a league average tackle, he's fine, should be upgraded if possible but not a priority.

LG was a disaster and Brendel gets beat up by every decent DT.

Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

If your intent here is to make your takes treated like jokes then you're doing a great job.

I don't care how the Aiyuk situation ended up pretending that was a bad pick is at best a terrible take.

Also making the equivalent of Javon Kinlaw with Pearsall and Williams given how long they've been here also doesn't help you be taken seriously.

Also...this doesn't belong in this thread.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Draft picks in the first round since 2017.

2017.....Rueben Foster.....
2017.....Solomon Thomas.....
2018.....Mike McGlinchey.....
2019.....Nick Bosa.....
2020.....Brandon Aiyuk.....
2020.....Javon Kinlaw.....
2021......Trey Lance..... (3 1st round picks. We didn't have any in 2022 and 2023)
2024.....Ricky Pearsall.....
2025.....Mykel Williams.....

I got 1/9 picks and some traded away that we didn't have. Somebody should be fired for this. Yet this is the guy who is perfect, irreplaceable and nobody else can ever coach this team. You can't win like this.

If your intent here is to make your takes treated like jokes then you're doing a great job.

I don't care how the Aiyuk situation ended up pretending that was a bad pick is at best a terrible take.

Also making the equivalent of Javon Kinlaw with Pearsall and Williams given how long they've been here also doesn't help you be taken seriously.

Also...this doesn't belong in this thread.

Aiyuk ended as bad as anybody you can find in NFL history. He ended up being a creepy weirdo who quit on the team after massive guarantees. That's a disaster. Persall and Williams are not written yet. Pearsall can't stay healthy or find the endzone. I think that's bad for a 1st round pick. Williams is a set the edge DE who can't pass rush and is now hurt. Pretty high if you consider #11 overall. Not sure about either. It's too early. But not looking great right now.

It belongs here because Shany is the one in charge at the end of the day.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Aiyuk ended as bad as anybody you can find in NFL history. He ended up being a creepy weirdo who quit on the team after massive guarantees. That's a disaster. Persall and Williams are not written yet. Pearsall can't stay healthy or find the endzone. I think that's bad for a 1st round pick. Williams is a set the edge DE who can't pass rush and is now hurt. Pretty high if you consider #11 overall. Not sure about either. It's too early. But not looking great right now.

It belongs here because Shany is the one in charge at the end of the day.

Aiyuk was an all pro who was a huge reason we made the SB. It's absolutely ridiculous to say it was a disaster pick. Him losing his mind after a big time injury and rough negotiations doesn't change the pick was a slam dunk.

It also has nothing to do with Kyle's coaching and is much more suited for the Lynch thread where we're discussing the talent acquisition parts of the team.