49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Montana:
It's not cool to be mad at Shanny to some but lol nobody can say, "Hey, great call on 4th and 1 against SEA." Nobody can make excuses for it. Cause it's one of the worst things I have seen in football. Sorry lol but that was just a killer...and his time clock meltdown in 2020 and settling for an fg when Mahomes is ready full go on the other side lol. He has had good moments but until he knocks out the mental whatever the heck..not feeling the love like lots do.

most won't let one play call define an entire season and especially won't do it with bunch of little lols

We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Honestly this years Seattle defense was much tougher than the Legion of Boom. I don't remember Richard Sherman's defense hitting the QB as much as 2025's Seattle defense.

It's obvious that the Niners have reached a point where we need to make some major adjustments in order to compete with the Rams and Hawks for the upcoming years. The problem that I sense is Kyle seems to be a rather stubborn and rigid coach and question whether he and Lynch have a game plan to make the necessary changes needed to stay competitive.

How long will Kyle be comfortable utilizing a finesse based O line? How long will the college scouting department be subpar? How long do we draft players and then not play them? These are prime examples of issues that Kyle and John must address.

Resting on your laurels, being stubborn and not admitting things need to change are a fast track of getting run out of town!

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Yeah, Sam cleaned up his performance but so much credit has to go to the D. Which kept him afloat when he was kinda mid. What's cool about Sam is, he said he wasn't that great in the SB..unlike Mahomer who thinks the world revolves around him. And Mahomes wasn't really impressive in his SB wins. Did just enough. Two very different qbs and glad it was Sam rather than qbs that are entitled brats.

Originally posted by boast:
most won't let one play call define an entire season and especially won't do it with bunch of little lols

LOL

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I love my coach

How about your GM?

No comment.

Shanny is your GM!

Only truly stupid fans believe this.

Sure, bud

Only the dumbest of fans think that a HC is so super human that he can be the successful HC of a perennial playoff contender, aaaaaand be the GM of that same perennial playoff contender. There isn't enough time in the day, add in the fact that he's a successful husband and father, but only the truly ignorant fans need this pointed out to them.

I'm pretty sure Shanahan called all the shots personnel wise.

There are plenty of coaches who do both. Are you new to this?

No there aren't. There are HC's that have influence, but none that are GM and HC and still successful.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
It's obvious that the Niners have reached a point where we need to make some major adjustments in order to compete with the Rams and Hawks for the upcoming years. The problem that I sense is Kyle seems to be a rather stubborn and rigid coach and question whether he and Lynch have a game plan to make the necessary changes needed to stay competitive.

How long will Kyle be comfortable utilizing a finesse based O line? How long will the college scouting department be subpar? How long do we draft players and then not play them? These are prime examples of issues that Kyle and John must address.

Resting on your laurels, being stubborn and not admitting things need to change are a fast track of getting run out of town!

You only have to look at our running game to see that this post is flawed. We used to run wide zone at least twice the amount of time, with big boot play action off it. Teams started to get a bead on it and we changed to running inside zone and gap at similar rates. Kyle is constantly trying to stay ahead of trends. You know he'll be studying that defense to try to use their rules against them. As for the O-Line, we drafted Banks which bucked the trend a bit, I think we'll get a couple of bigger bodies in.

I disagree that the scouting is subpar, I think it's more that we have a type we like, and we're happy to go outside draft grades to get them, maybe that's what needs to be looked at.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You can't have a choir boy for a pass rusher. Aldon Smith could smash into a tree drunk and give you 3 sacks the next day. He could play drunk and give you 2 sacks. We need to get to the QB or it won't get any better. Certainly he's better than a set the edge DE who can't pass rush who now got hurt at #11. Yeah with some personal problems no doubt.

And his life turned out to be a tragedy. But that's all okay as long as he could get us some sacks on gameday. right? He had two great years for us and then started getting into trouble that would lead to his getting suspended for two years and going to jail. Yeah, that's exactly the type of guy we need on the team.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
It's obvious that the Niners have reached a point where we need to make some major adjustments in order to compete with the Rams and Hawks for the upcoming years. The problem that I sense is Kyle seems to be a rather stubborn and rigid coach and question whether he and Lynch have a game plan to make the necessary changes needed to stay competitive.

How long will Kyle be comfortable utilizing a finesse based O line? How long will the college scouting department be subpar? How long do we draft players and then not play them? These are prime examples of issues that Kyle and John must address.

Resting on your laurels, being stubborn and not admitting things need to change are a fast track of getting run out of town!

im sorry didnt we end up with the same record and splt our divisional games during the regular season ?

I think this is a conversation if we get swept next year. I think for us it isnt a scheme we jsut ran out of talent at end of the year we were jsut outmatched rather than outcoached. Credit to Hawks that they turned that russel wilson trade into a haul

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Honestly this years Seattle defense was much tougher than the Legion of Boom. I don't remember Richard Sherman's defense hitting the QB as much as 2025's Seattle defense.

Our oline in those days was stacked with first round picks

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Honestly this years Seattle defense was much tougher than the Legion of Boom. I don't remember Richard Sherman's defense hitting the QB as much as 2025's Seattle defense.

Our oline in those days was stacked with first round picks

nah back then it was the secondary that was scary . This is a far better front 7 just different types of defense

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Montana:
It's not cool to be mad at Shanny to some but lol nobody can say, "Hey, great call on 4th and 1 against SEA." Nobody can make excuses for it. Cause it's one of the worst things I have seen in football. Sorry lol but that was just a killer...and his time clock meltdown in 2020 and settling for an fg when Mahomes is ready full go on the other side lol. He has had good moments but until he knocks out the mental whatever the heck..not feeling the love like lots do.

most won't let one play call define an entire season and especially won't do it with bunch of little lols

We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

Honestly I think every coach and player on the squad knew our odds were slim. That week 18 game was fresh in our minds and I think everyone understood while the score was close, the game really wasn't.

I think we went into that playoff game with smoke and mirrors for hope and optimism. That mirror broke soon as Shaheed took the opening kickoff back for a TD.

As beat up as we were, having the rest disadvantage and playing on the road...giving up an opening TD return, getting the crowd into it must've been soul crushing for the players. We still had a chance early on to get in that game but just didn't have the bodies to get it done and the officials didn't help things either.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
We all had hope that the 9ers could go into Seattle and win. Truth of the matter is that the Seahawks defense was just too tough and the 9ers simply didn't have the horses on offense to pull off any kind of upset. And props should be given to Sam Darnold he pretty much played mistake-free football.

When your defense is carrying the day it's much easier to do.

Reminded me a lot of Russ SB. Just kinda was there until the game was out of reach then made some plays.

Honestly this years Seattle defense was much tougher than the Legion of Boom. I don't remember Richard Sherman's defense hitting the QB as much as 2025's Seattle defense.

LOB was definitely better but both are excellent. Let's not forget while they got the job done vs the Rams they were also torched twice by them. Stafford was easily the best QB they played all year, who had the best weapons on top of it.

LOB had to play the best version of Peyton Manning in the SB. Dude set the record for most passing yards and TDs in an NFL season(before it changed to 17 games) and LOB outscored that offense in the SB! There's definitely recency bias happening for anyone who thinks this defense was better.

Originally posted by bigpete50:
It's obvious that the Niners have reached a point where we need to make some major adjustments in order to compete with the Rams and Hawks for the upcoming years. The problem that I sense is Kyle seems to be a rather stubborn and rigid coach and question whether he and Lynch have a game plan to make the necessary changes needed to stay competitive.

How long will Kyle be comfortable utilizing a finesse based O line? How long will the college scouting department be subpar? How long do we draft players and then not play them? These are prime examples of issues that Kyle and John must address.

Resting on your laurels, being stubborn and not admitting things need to change are a fast track of getting run out of town!

I thought the same thing but every player/coach interview from people who actually worked with him say otherwise. He just needs to understand the reason for something to happen. If it makes sense he's always willing to listen and adjust.

I've talked about this a bunch in this thread. While there are still philosophical things I disagree with him on that I hope he changes his mind on, for the most part I think Kyle has at least tried to adjust and learn from every big mistake he or the team has made in big losses. It just hasn't always worked out.

After losing in 2019 we did make the mistake of trying to run things back - made even worse by not bringing in Tom Brady(though I understand it was more about his age than talent. Until Brady did what he did 0 NFL QBs played well at age 43+ )
After 2020 and seeing Jimmy struggle to stay healthy and play uninspired football they made the jump to get Lance(also tried to get Stafford and Aaron Rodgers) - clearly a terrible move in hindsight but they saw a problem with their team and tried to address it. Thankfully Brock Purdy fell in our laps and helped get rid of some of that stink.
After 2021 we overreacted to the inability to convert 2nd and 1 vs the Rams so we reached for TDP in the draft. I remember the main selling point to him was he almost always gets positive yards. Another fail but once again Kyle saw a problem and tried to address it.
After 2022 we brought in Sam Darnold and Brandon Allen to ensure we're 3 QBs deep
After 2023 we drafted Pearsall and Puni after having issues beating man coverage in the SB and having a terrible showing by Burford at G

2024 was obviously a totally different beast. I'm hopeful that we continue to build on what I think was a pretty good draft class in 2025(I'm still high on the 2024 class too) but we gotta keep building and I think Kyle seeing 2 division rivals win SBs under his watch will light a fire under his ass.