49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Bring back eddie d please. The current owners and fans are content with mediocrity. f**king disgusting.

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Burford blocks Chris Jones for 2 seconds: JED ROCKS! WE WIN SUPERBOWLS!!

Burford does NOT block Chris Jones: JED SUCKS!! HE DOESN'T WANT TO WIN!!

…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

I also don't agree with 100% of the decisions, play calls, etc. I have my criticisms.

But do you agree that IF Burford blocks Jones, and Purdy hits an open Aiyuk for a TD, that we probably win the SB and all of your arguments are irrelevant?
Kyle had the team in a position to win, the play was not executed. seems simple to me

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? I said he was a great owner but he wasn't without his faults. Pretending Eddie D would fix everything and the Niners would be winning all those SBs is laughable. It's a different era with different rules. Many of those rules were put in place to prevent what Eddie did.

Eddie is incredibly generous. Some say to a fault. He had the opportunity to come back and be part of the team but he chose not to. He knows he couldn't opperate the same way he did then.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Bring back eddie d please. The current owners and fans are content with mediocrity. f**king disgusting.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/912435224800465/?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

Burford blocks Chris Jones for 2 seconds: JED ROCKS! WE WIN SUPERBOWLS!!

Burford does NOT block Chris Jones: JED SUCKS!! HE DOESN'T WANT TO WIN!!

…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

I also don't agree with 100% of the decisions, play calls, etc. I have my criticisms.

But do you agree that IF Burford blocks Jones, and Purdy hits an open Aiyuk for a TD, that we probably win the SB and all of your arguments are irrelevant?
Kyle had the team in a position to win, the play was not executed. seems simple to me

It's easy to point to one play instead of criticizing the entire game plan. Yes if Burford makes the block for JJ or Purdy picks up the corner blitz on 3rd and finds Aiyuk for the conversion we possibly win. Or maybe KC gets the ball…scores…and makes the 2 point conversion as they planned all along.

I can point to a lot of spots where we don't need to get to that final drive in regulation and OT, and that 3rd quarter playcalling pretty much sealed the deal on us.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Bring back eddie d please. The current owners and fans are content with mediocrity. f**king disgusting.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/912435224800465/?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

Burford blocks Chris Jones for 2 seconds: JED ROCKS! WE WIN SUPERBOWLS!!

Burford does NOT block Chris Jones: JED SUCKS!! HE DOESN'T WANT TO WIN!!

…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

I also don't agree with 100% of the decisions, play calls, etc. I have my criticisms.

But do you agree that IF Burford blocks Jones, and Purdy hits an open Aiyuk for a TD, that we probably win the SB and all of your arguments are irrelevant?
Kyle had the team in a position to win, the play was not executed. seems simple to me

No. Mahommes said if they got a td they were going for two no matter what. The way the niners defense was playing I don't think Buford missing a block changed anything.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? Learn to read, troll.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course I'm going to say that. You think the Eagles win 2 SBs if Reid stays in Philly ? He needs a fresh start. New players. A new organization. His shtick go old in Philadelphia. The same can apply to Kyle. Maybe he goes to another team and wins 6 rings. Conversely maybe we get a new coach and win 6 rings. Point is you can't be afraid to let go of Kyle Shanahan because you "think" he will win Super Bowls elsewhere and because you "think" our next coach is Tomsula. And to reiterate, we are not debating the release of a first second or third year coach where you can tell fans to give him more time. He's had a decade and no rings to show for it. He's the longest tenured coach in the league without a ring. He's about to become the longest tenured coach in franchise history without a ring. But you guys are okay with it because he remains "competitive" and brings home the participation trophies…

Andy Reid would've 100% won rings in Philly. In no way shape or form are Doug Pederson or Sirianni better coaches.

Its far.more likely the next coach will be worse than Kyle. Thats just reality. But for you anyone would be better than Kyle including Tomsula.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? Learn to read, troll.

First of all I'm not a troll. I had season tickets for over 30 years during the entire Eddie D time. I had nothng but love for him for what he did for my beloved Niners. I guess you're referring to the comment about him getting felonies and hiring Mooch. Well he did. That doesn't change my opinion of him though. He was reckless at times, generous, compassionate and decisive.

He hired Joe Thomas as GM who pulled off one of the worst trades in 49er history. Bad mistake. He quickly realized Thomas wasn't the right guy and fired him. He hired Walsh and gave him full control over football operations. Great decision. You have to wonder what would have happened if Walsh hadn't been coaching at Stanford at that time. Would he have been hired as the next coach?

As hard and demanding as Eddie was he treated his players better than any owner in the league. Lavish parties. First class travel and hotels. He set up a lifetime annuity for Jeff Fuller when an injury ended his career. It's no wonder players were beating down the door to try and play here.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Yeah he was busy getting felonies and hiring Steve Mariucci at the end of it

If the Niners had lost that first SB to the Bengals I suspect Eddie would have thrown a party for his players to show his appreciation that they got there. He threw a lot of parties. The whole SB or bust thing became his mantra after they won that game. Prior to that win just getting there was a major accomplishment. Eddie was a great owner but he wasn't without faults. Remember he often had arguments with Walsh and threatened to fire him.

He did have his faults but he was a great owner. He made this franchise what it is.

Imagine s**tting on him just to prop up Kyle. Unbelievable.

Who's s**tting on him? Learn to read, troll.

First of all I'm not a troll. I had season tickets for over 30 years during the entire Eddie D time. I had nothng but love for him for what he did for my beloved Niners. I guess you're referring to the comment about him getting felonies and hiring Mooch. Well he did. That doesn't change my opinion of him though. He was reckless at times, generous, compassionate and decisive.

He hired Joe Thomas as GM who pulled off one of the worst trades in 49er history. Bad mistake. He quickly realized Thomas wasn't the right guy and fired him. He hired Walsh and gave him full control over football operations. Great decision. You have to wonder what would have happened if Walsh hadn't been coaching at Stanford at that time. Would he have been hired as the next coach?

As hard and demanding as Eddie was he treated his players better than any owner in the league. Lavish parties. First class travel and hotels. He set up a lifetime annuity for Jeff Fuller when an injury ended his career. It's no wonder players were beating down the door to try and play here.

I was quoting JoseTrolltez

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
The problem with this front office is they think they are one or two players away when in reality this is a gutted roster full of aging, over priced and injury prone players. The roster is too top heavy.

We have ZERO impact players under 25 years old. We need to be building through the draft but that is something this front office has shown they can't do.

So adding Jefferson or Crosby might help us win a few games but when we get down to the top 8 or top 4 we will get embarrassed again. We aren't two players away from competing with those teams.

I sure hope I don't find you complaining about them not making a big trade at the deadline this year...

I would say the lack of move like that means they do in fact understand they're not that close.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Bring back eddie d please. The current owners and fans are content with mediocrity. f**king disgusting.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/912435224800465/?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

What could Eddie do even if he did come back? He couldn't spend like a drunken sailor anymore. I doubt he could bring Bill Walsh back to life,

I'll tell you what he wouldn't have done.

throw a party after a Super Bowl loss.

Extend Kyle when he has no rings.

Oh look it's this conversation again - a hypothetical scenario we'll never know about because Eddie never had to deal with the modern NFL.

Let's try to keep it to recent history and something that can be reality. I'll start to give out timeouts to anyone bringing up old news that doesn't bring new discussion.

Originally posted by DrEll:
…or we could have put them away in the 3rd quarter after the Brown interception on KC's 44 being up 10-3. Instead, here's the brilliant play calling on the next few plays (let's remember we are on KC's 44). Pass, false start, Pass, Pass, Punt —- Pass, Pass, Pass, Punt —- RUN, Pass, Pass, Punt —- and then we fumble on the punt return and they score.

That entire 3rd quarter, after we pick Mahomes off on their 44 yard line, up 10-3….we decide to RUN one time, pass 8 times….score ZERO POINT…KC scores 10 points and take 13-10 lead into the 4th.

And guys here will tell you that the playcalling was justified because:

1) ONE false start penalty
2) SPECIAL TEAMS mistake

all smoke and mirrors to avoid addressing the 8/9 pass plays called on 3 drives with the offensive player of the year….

Same goes for you. I've spent many posts explaining to you why it wasn't simply getting away from the run game. You don't care. You're too busy moving ahead with your absurd takes...now 3 years after they happened.

If you want to discuss what happened this season or will/should happen that's fine. Stop bringing up that SB without any reason other than to spread misinformation and pump up old narratives.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Of course I'm going to say that. You think the Eagles win 2 SBs if Reid stays in Philly ? He needs a fresh start. New players. A new organization. His shtick go old in Philadelphia. The same can apply to Kyle. Maybe he goes to another team and wins 6 rings. Conversely maybe we get a new coach and win 6 rings. Point is you can't be afraid to let go of Kyle Shanahan because you "think" he will win Super Bowls elsewhere and because you "think" our next coach is Tomsula. And to reiterate, we are not debating the release of a first second or third year coach where you can tell fans to give him more time. He's had a decade and no rings to show for it. He's the longest tenured coach in the league without a ring. He's about to become the longest tenured coach in franchise history without a ring. But you guys are okay with it because he remains "competitive" and brings home the participation trophies…

Andy Reid would've 100% won rings in Philly. In no way shape or form are Doug Pederson or Sirianni better coaches.

Its far.more likely the next coach will be worse than Kyle. Thats just reality. But for you anyone would be better than Kyle including Tomsula.

Wrong. The reason Eagles won their 2 rings was bc the franchise moved on. I've never heard of any fans or Philly media pundits spin it like you are. Which is basically trying to substitute Andy for Kyle and stating that we could miss out on SBs if we lose Kyle.

Jed send the Jet and pick Shanahan's ass up ASAP he's got work to do!!!