49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

What's killing us right now isn't necessarily bad drafting, though there have been some misses but so does every team. What is killing our roster right now is the downstream effect of the Trey Lance trade. Had we not lucked into Brock Purdy, I do agree Lynch probably loses his job…but beyond that our drafting hasn't been that bad. Given that Lance was a bust we essentially missed out on 3 firsts over the last 5 seasons. That has taken a toll. Since then our only firsts have been Pearsall at the end of the first round and Mykell. Jury is still out on those guys.

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

Both Super Bowl coaches were hired over the last two years. Your argument is flawed

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
What's killing us right now isn't necessarily bad drafting, though there have been some misses but so does every team. What is killing our roster right now is the downstream effect of the Trey Lance trade. Had we not lucked into Brock Purdy, I do agree Lynch probably loses his job…but beyond that our drafting hasn't been that bad. Given that Lance was a bust we essentially missed out on 3 firsts over the last 5 seasons. That has taken a toll. Since then our only firsts have been Pearsall at the end of the first round and Mykell. Jury is still out on those guys.

Exactly right. That was a big swing and miss and I'm sure if they had a do over like the fans they wouldn't have done it. They would have stayed at 12 asnd taken whoever was left or gone in a differnet direction. Unforunately that was a terrible year for QBs at a time when the Niners were really concerned about JGs availability. It was a reach and it ended up biting them in the ass.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
What's killing us right now isn't necessarily bad drafting, though there have been some misses but so does every team. What is killing our roster right now is the downstream effect of the Trey Lance trade. Had we not lucked into Brock Purdy, I do agree Lynch probably loses his job…but beyond that our drafting hasn't been that bad. Given that Lance was a bust we essentially missed out on 3 firsts over the last 5 seasons. That has taken a toll. Since then our only firsts have been Pearsall at the end of the first round and Mykell. Jury is still out on those guys.

Bad drafting and personnel decisions absolutely is our biggest issue.

Our drafts have been dogs**t.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

Both Super Bowl coaches were hired over the last two years. Your argument is flawed

But but but…..

we will never get anyone as good as Shanahan to lose two Super Bowls for us

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
What's killing us right now isn't necessarily bad drafting, though there have been some misses but so does every team. What is killing our roster right now is the downstream effect of the Trey Lance trade. Had we not lucked into Brock Purdy, I do agree Lynch probably loses his job…but beyond that our drafting hasn't been that bad. Given that Lance was a bust we essentially missed out on 3 firsts over the last 5 seasons. That has taken a toll. Since then our only firsts have been Pearsall at the end of the first round and Mykell. Jury is still out on those guys.

Yeah everyone talks about how awful the 2022 and 2023 drafts were but honestly, the Trey Lance and CMC trades depleted us of most of our significant capital for those drafts. It can really be traced back to the Trey Lance trade.

What's ironic is, even with the Trey Lance pick, the 2021 draft was actually fairly successful. We basically got Demo and a bunch of comp picks out of it, which is more than what you can ask from most drafts, let alone one that you drafted a bust in the first round with. It was the 2022-23 drafts that killed us. We got Purdy and nothing else out of those drafts unless you're high on Jayir Brown…

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

Both Super Bowl coaches were hired over the last two years. Your argument is flawed

Difference is that those teams have competent owners who hire good coaches. They fired Harbaugh bc he was too mean and only got Kyle bc they promised him he can make personal decisions. I don't trust Jed to find a coach. If they fired Kyle last season I wouldn't have argued and would have loved Vrabel

My argument is firing Kyle after THIS season is not smart. The team basically announced that they were rebuilding last year and if you asked anyone they would have been shocked that they would go 12-5 and win a road playoff game. If they underperform in 2026 I will not have any issue with them firing Kyle.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
What's killing us right now isn't necessarily bad drafting, though there have been some misses but so does every team. What is killing our roster right now is the downstream effect of the Trey Lance trade. Had we not lucked into Brock Purdy, I do agree Lynch probably loses his job…but beyond that our drafting hasn't been that bad. Given that Lance was a bust we essentially missed out on 3 firsts over the last 5 seasons. That has taken a toll. Since then our only firsts have been Pearsall at the end of the first round and Mykell. Jury is still out on those guys.

A #2 WR who can't see the field and a run-stuffing DL taken with a high 1st round pick.

Yeah, those two are also horrible picks.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
The quality of the discussion on this forum is dogcrap. It's always the same old people parroting the same banal crap about firing everyone, cutting everyone, without providing coherent arguments justifying why we should do something as asinine as firing Kyle, for example.

And everyone gets bogged down arguing with these trolls leaving no room for more nuanced discussion.

Just throwing in my 2 cents, not like anyone cares because I'm not a loud and attention seeking user in here.

Yep.

It's that time of the season where I pretty much head out of this section for the most part. No point in posting in NT when the Romper Room runs around making the same old tired and angry arguments that rehash and often attempt to rewrite the past all while throwing context, logic and common sense out the windows.

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

Both Super Bowl coaches were hired over the last two years. Your argument is flawed

Difference is that those teams have competent owners who hire good coaches. They fired Harbaugh bc he was too mean and only got Kyle bc they promised him he can make personal decisions. I don't trust Jed to find a coach. If they fired Kyle last season I wouldn't have argued and would have loved Vrabel

My argument is firing Kyle after THIS season is not smart. The team basically announced that they were rebuilding last year and if you asked anyone they would have been shocked that they would go 12-5 and win a road playoff game. If they underperform in 2026 I will not have any issue with them firing Kyle.

Everything you said makes sense, especially the lack of faith in ownership to find a great gm and coach.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Both Super Bowl coaches were hired over the last two years. Your argument is flawed

I'm pretty sure names such as Vrabel, Ben Johnson, McDonald were brought up over the past few seasons when the proverbial question was asked "who would you replace Kyle with?" As you said, 2 of those guys are in the SB and the third guy made it as far as Shanahan this year in his first season. It's is absolutely flawed argument that firing Shanahan automatically puts us in the Jim Tomsula era…

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Shanahan has two daddies in the nfc west

Kyle Shanahan is 11-7 vs Sean McVay
Kyle Shanahan is 2-3 vs Mike MacDonald

Not exactly "daddy" territory imo.

And what's hit record against them IN THE PLAYOFFS

this board. Seriously.

You're welcome to stay off of it...

Playoffs are not any different. You can't call someone "daddy" unless they consistently dominate that HC. While I'm sure Seattle probably wins last week's game even if we're at full health with the guys who would've been around I don't think that's the case week 18 which swings a LOT with us getting the bye week to rest and play at home.

The fact is the two playoff games in question the 49ers were on the road and playing with a much more banged up team. And against McVay there is no doubt in my mind Shanahan was the better HC that day despite the outcome of the game. MacDonald's team took it to us so there's no real excusing that performance but the fact remains that MacDonald's wins have come when the 49ers were missing impact players. Hell just with Nick Bosa Shanahan is 2-0 vs MacDonald.

But that's right you guys don't like to hear that...that's just excuses.

Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

If you stopped making trollish posts just trying to get a reaction from people and actually read what's being discussed then you'd see I'm far from everything about Shanahan is great. That's the issue...there are real conversations to be had and a group of you are stuck making ridiculous hot takes based on nothing of value.

So yes if you don't want to have actual discussions and want to push hot takes only...and label anything that's adding context to the conversation as "excuses" when they're simply factual information then yes, you're better off staying away from a 49ers message board.

Like do you guys understand how absurd it is to call yourselves 49er fans and root against the HC of the team?

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
The quality of the discussion on this forum is dogcrap. It's always the same old people parroting the same banal crap about firing everyone, cutting everyone, without providing coherent arguments justifying why we should do something as asinine as firing Kyle, for example.

And everyone gets bogged down arguing with these trolls leaving no room for more nuanced discussion.

Just throwing in my 2 cents, not like anyone cares because I'm not a loud and attention seeking user in here.

Yep.

It's that time of the season where I pretty much head out of this section for the most part. No point in posting in NT when the Romper Room runs around making the same old tired and angry arguments that rehash and often attempt to rewrite the past all while throwing context, logic and common sense out the windows.

As opposed to the logical and common sense arguments you guys have been making over the past 9 years ?

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

This is a good hypothetical to go through. The problem is the people who are pushing for this to happen will not give you a real analysis because to them they simply want a change.

Forget the fact that if Kyle is fired it will mean a full rebuild of the roster. A new HC will not be tied to any of the guys we have here, usually that means mass changes on the roster because the new regime wants their guys there and when following a successful HC(sorry fellas but 99.9% of the NFL watching population would call Shanahan a successful HC) it's very easy to lose a locker room if you're not matching or exceeding the way the former guy ran things.

What else does it mean? You're likely looking for a new QB since Purdy and Shanahan are a great unison but he may not work as well with another HC. Now your best asset on offense needs to be replaced at the hardest position to find a top level player in.

So everyone is upset we're far behind Seattle and the Rams but sure...let's just upheave the full roster and surely we'll be back winning SBs in no time since we've done so well with all these coaches since Seifert and before Walsh.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Brucey72:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Always the excuses. Why are we always banged up? Why are we on the road in the first place? We had a chance to be at home this year against Seattle. Nope. Shanny scored a whopping 3 points.

and the shanny haters can stay off just so you guys can be alone and talk about how great of a coach he is amongst yourselves without challenge. Sounds great.

Should stay off because the majority of this board doesn't want to read overly emotional whining incessantly.

What's really sad is if the day comes that Kyle is fired unfortunately the track record will be some Jim Tomsula or Dennis Erickson will be the hire. You guys will rejoice though because anyone but Shanny will do.

Exactly they will likely turn back into bottom dwellers. Which head coaching candidate would we have hired this year? Don't say Saleh bc if they fired Kyle they weren't going to hire his DC. The top candidates were Stefanski and Harbaugh. Really think they are better than Kyle at this point

tomlin?

Brother...is this a serious post? Shanahan has more playoff wins than him as a HC and has coached for 10 seasons less.