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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You're overthinking it for Kyle's sake. At the time of the coin toss all I know is both teams are getting a possession. The team that goes first will basically be taking a shot in the dark and I don't want that to be my offense. The next coach who decides to do that will get ripped the same way Kyle did

Nonsense. My thought process here has nothing to do with Kyle Shanahan, other than I dug deep into this scenario because our team faced it in the highest leverage situation.

Moving on to 2026
[ Edited by genus49 on Jan 23, 2026 at 5:59 AM ]
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
You're overthinking it for Kyle's sake. At the time of the coin toss all I know is both teams are getting a possession. The team that goes first will basically be taking a shot in the dark and I don't want that to be my offense. The next coach who decides to do that will get ripped the same way Kyle did

Nonsense. My thought process here has nothing to do with Kyle Shanahan, other than I dug deep into this scenario because our team faced it in the highest leverage situation.

Andy didn't need any of that crap to build a ot plan around the correct decision. The first drive will be taken at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the drives. No reason to choose to take that drive unless you want to overthink. Andy knows

You're probably right, but it's also extremely likely that Kyle has now learned from it. Apart from bringing up old wounds what are you hoping to achieve? With everything considered, age, experience, ability. The only coach I'd even consider is McVay.

Kyle should be our coach for a long time still.
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Define "draft picks"

Two 1st rounders, probably not. Anything less (like the QW package the Cowboys put together for the Jets at the trade deadline) probably yes.

He's 29 and would make $30M a year with a team he's traded to. We're already paying a 29-year-old edge rusher $35M a year. Lack of pass rushing isn't what killed the team this season (though it was the biggest flaw throughout the regular season).

But even swapping Huff for Crosby would fill a massive hole on this team. Only safety and WR would be my concern (and future OL of course, always).
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Jan 23, 2026 at 5:23 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
You're probably right, but it's also extremely likely that Kyle has now learned from it. Apart from bringing up old wounds what are you hoping to achieve? With everything considered, age, experience, ability. The only coach I'd even consider is McVay.

Kyle should be our coach for a long time still.

People still crying about years ago? Like I've said previously there's half a dozen other things that led to that loss that had absolutely nothing to do with coaching. They refuse to discuss those things. Wonder why?

End of the day Kyle's positives massively outweighed his negatives. So everyone needs to get over it, the whining is insufferable.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Define "draft picks"

Two 1st rounders, probably not. Anything less (like the QW package the Cowboys put together for the Jets at the trade deadline) probably yes.

He's 29 and would make $30M a year with a team he's traded to. We're already paying a 29-year-old edge rusher $35M a year. Lack of pass rushing isn't what killed the team this season (though it was the biggest flaw throughout the regular season).

But even swapping Huff for Crosby would fill a massive hole on this team. Only safety and WR would be my concern (and future OL of course, always).

Age should drop the cost, but he's still freaking awesome and his game isn't based around pure speed.

I'm sure we'd have to rework some deals to get a little more room but whatever.

I would disagree that the lack of pass rush wasn't a massive killer to this team and what we want to do on defense. Bottom of the league in pressures and sacks. Myles Garrett had more sacks than the whole team.

I'd give up a 2nd this yr next yr plus Huff. Not sure if that gets it done.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by genus49:
First of all those teams winning don't change anything about Shanahan'a coaching this season unless the winning team suffers critical injuries in the NFCCG/SB and still manages to win.

Second you do realize anyone b***hing in here about it won't change anything about Kyle being the coach here right? Those guys winning won't change that Kyle is the coach here probably for a while.

But either way until it happens, you don't need to worry about it.

You know…in a couple seasons win or lose I don't think anyone outside a handful of Kyle diehard supporters will remember this season as memorable. Cool story bro….while in the moment, but means nothing in a grand scheme of things unless he had actually won a SB with the band aid team like McCarthy did in 2010.

We'll see. Nobody is saying this season is memorable cuz of all the winning. It's memorable because of how the team moved forward with all the injuries, youth and changes.

Whether you guys want to admit it or not doesn't change the fact that it was a very impressive job of coaching. That's why Kyle is in the COTY conversations and many have him as winning it. There is an article about all the things Kyle had to change this year to make it happen and it shows that he's willing to adjust and grow that you guys seem to believe he's incapable of doing.

So sit back, relax and complain away but make sure your complaints are based on the present and not years ago so we're not rehashing things that have been beat to death in here.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Define "draft picks"

Two 1st rounders, probably not. Anything less (like the QW package the Cowboys put together for the Jets at the trade deadline) probably yes.

He's 29 and would make $30M a year with a team he's traded to. We're already paying a 29-year-old edge rusher $35M a year. Lack of pass rushing isn't what killed the team this season (though it was the biggest flaw throughout the regular season).

But even swapping Huff for Crosby would fill a massive hole on this team. Only safety and WR would be my concern (and future OL of course, always).

Age should drop the cost, but he's still freaking awesome and his game isn't based around pure speed.

I'm sure we'd have to rework some deals to get a little more room but whatever.

I would disagree that the lack of pass rush wasn't a massive killer to this team and what we want to do on defense. Bottom of the league in pressures and sacks. Myles Garrett had more sacks than the whole team.

I'd give up a 2nd this yr next yr plus Huff. Not sure if that gets it done.

As always I feel like the Raiders would want a premium if even that from us to get a deal done. Let's not forget they took a lesser offer for Mack just so they wouldn't trade with us(maybe now that they're in Vegas and not Oakland they'd be more willing to be reasonable)

I would absolutely love Crosby. Having him and Bosa out there at the same time would level up our defense in a huge way and instantly make anyone playing alongside them better.

My only concern is age and money. I really feel like we should be getting as much cheap young talent in as possible...BUT at the same time if we're missing on those early picks getting a proven stud is hard to pass up on.

I guess if they think the team could handle it cap wise without having to shed either player within a year or two then go for it. Make the swing. Then trade back and accumulate as many later round picks as you can and hope you can strike lightening in a bottle similar to what the Rams did in 2023
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
You're probably right, but it's also extremely likely that Kyle has now learned from it. Apart from bringing up old wounds what are you hoping to achieve? With everything considered, age, experience, ability. The only coach I'd even consider is McVay.

Kyle should be our coach for a long time still.

People still crying about years ago? Like I've said previously there's half a dozen other things that led to that loss that had absolutely nothing to do with coaching. They refuse to discuss those things. Wonder why?

End of the day Kyle's positives massively outweighed his negatives. So everyone needs to get over it, the whining is insufferable.

I'm going to start editing people's posts who are rehashing the same crap we've talked about for years now. Clearly nobody is swaying the other person's opinions on the matter so then what's the point?

There is a lot of new things to talk about in regards to the team and Kyle's coaching/roster management abilities.
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Define "draft picks"

Two 1st rounders, probably not. Anything less (like the QW package the Cowboys put together for the Jets at the trade deadline) probably yes.

He's 29 and would make $30M a year with a team he's traded to. We're already paying a 29-year-old edge rusher $35M a year. Lack of pass rushing isn't what killed the team this season (though it was the biggest flaw throughout the regular season).

But even swapping Huff for Crosby would fill a massive hole on this team. Only safety and WR would be my concern (and future OL of course, always).

I'd rather go after Khalil Mack as a rotational piece. Bosa, Mykel, West, Collins, Huff, Mack. That seems like a decent enough line. Our big name FA HAS to be WR1. Can't rely on the draft and red shirt the rookie. Go all in for Justin Jefferson. Trade Mac and your first rounder for him if you have to.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Like I said, shanahan supporters better pray the afc wins this year. They'll never live down McVay 2-0 or a Macdonald Super Bowl in year 2.

But the excuses I'm sure are ready

for McVay: give Kyle stafford and he would win 5 superbowls!

I'm trying to think of their excuse for Macdonald winning one in year 2, but I can think of one.

This is kind of a silly take. Under your scenario, the Miami Dolphins front office would "never live it down" if the Patriots had won one of their rings at Miami's stadium. Or the Saints would never live it down if the Bucs won in it the Superdome. It seems to me that's something you're creating in your own head out of some kind of overzealous "fandom". It's like your digs at people commenting on Shanahan's four NFCCG appearances in 9 years, well it doesn't mean anything because he didn't win the Super Bowl. Seems to me you can't win the Super Bowl unless you get to the NFCCG, or make the playoffs, so it's no small accomplishment. It sucks that they haven't won but if your only criteria for supporting a sports team is the insistence that the win Championships, it seems to me you're going to be in for a lot of disappointment in your life.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
You're probably right, but it's also extremely likely that Kyle has now learned from it. Apart from bringing up old wounds what are you hoping to achieve? With everything considered, age, experience, ability. The only coach I'd even consider is McVay.

Kyle should be our coach for a long time still.

I wouldn't trade KS for SM......I've seen Shanahan outcoach McVay several times - I believe he won 6 straight games as an underdog against McVay. I don't even know a game where I can honestly say McVay simply outcoached Shanahan.

McVay is a really good HC, and I'd be happy if he was in SF....but he's not better than Shanahan.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Like I said, shanahan supporters better pray the afc wins this year. They'll never live down McVay 2-0 or a Macdonald Super Bowl in year 2.

But the excuses I'm sure are ready

for McVay: give Kyle stafford and he would win 5 superbowls!

I'm trying to think of their excuse for Macdonald winning one in year 2, but I can think of one.

This is kind of a silly take. Under your scenario, the Miami Dolphins front office would "never live it down" if the Patriots had won one of their rings at Miami's stadium. Or the Saints would never live it down if the Bucs won in it the Superdome. It seems to me that's something you're creating in your own head out of some kind of overzealous "fandom". It's like your digs at people commenting on Shanahan's four NFCCG appearances in 9 years, well it doesn't mean anything because he didn't win the Super Bowl. Seems to me you can't win the Super Bowl unless you get to the NFCCG, or make the playoffs, so it's no small accomplishment. It sucks that they haven't won but if your only criteria for supporting a sports team is the insistence that the win Championships, it seems to me you're going to be in for a lot of disappointment in your life.

It's just better to ignore these guys. They are not actual 49er fans. They are grown men just desperate for attention because they can't get it anywhere else.
Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
You're probably right, but it's also extremely likely that Kyle has now learned from it. Apart from bringing up old wounds what are you hoping to achieve? With everything considered, age, experience, ability. The only coach I'd even consider is McVay.

Kyle should be our coach for a long time still.

I wouldn't trade KS for SM......I've seen Shanahan outcoach McVay several times - I believe he won 6 straight games as an underdog against McVay. I don't even know a game where I can honestly say McVay simply outcoached Shanahan.

McVay is a really good HC, and I'd be happy if he was in SF....but he's not better than Shanahan.

I think there are things Sean does better than Kyle and there are things Kyle does better than Sean. Both are great coaches. Difference is Sean has the ultimate prize but the only difference in why one has a ring and the other doesn't is one got favorable officiating and had his defense hold a 3 point lead and the other didn't. That's it.

Now if Sean wins it again this year which is a strong possibility it still won't change my opinion there but obviously it will be a lot harder to argue vs a 2-1 SB record vs an 0-2 SB record as stupid as it is.
Originally posted by genus49:
As always I feel like the Raiders would want a premium if even that from us to get a deal done. Let's not forget they took a lesser offer for Mack just so they wouldn't trade with us(maybe now that they're in Vegas and not Oakland they'd be more willing to be reasonable)

I would absolutely love Crosby. Having him and Bosa out there at the same time would level up our defense in a huge way and instantly make anyone playing alongside them better.

My only concern is age and money. I really feel like we should be getting as much cheap young talent in as possible...BUT at the same time if we're missing on those early picks getting a proven stud is hard to pass up on.

I guess if they think the team could handle it cap wise without having to shed either player within a year or two then go for it. Make the swing. Then trade back and accumulate as many later round picks as you can and hope you can strike lightening in a bottle similar to what the Rams did in 2023

Meh it's Brady and their GM running the show not Davis.

we have plenty of cheap talent, we have plenty of decent players. We need deference makers asap. We don't draft high enough or have enough high end picks to get those blue chip guys. Overall I question our draft every yr…I liked the Williams pick, I think he will be a good DL with plenty of upside. That draft overall didn't have blue chip guys for the most part. I don't think he's gonna be a pro-bowl edge rusher though.

I don't care about the cap space. That s**t is always moldable. It's up to the owner to fork over the real dollars.

I'll be shocked if they get someone like Maxx, I agree we need to get younger. I think you can do both (get proven stud player and good young talent).
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