49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I agree man. The spin is too strong with you guys. Head coach talks about 3rd possession (UNHEARD OF IN ANY OTHER INTERVIEW WITH EVERY COACH IN THAT POSITION) and no team has made the same decision since the new OT rules have come into effect, but you guys defend it as the right call. Unbelievable…

One last thing: It is not remotely unheard of. Go and review the statistical analysis behind the decision. Understand that it was such a controversial call, more than one reporter surveyed analytics departments across the league. It is a 50/50 decision from a statistical standpoint, and the hinging factor is the possibility of a 3rd possession. Kyle's quote is right in line with this analysis.

I would have chose to kick in any case. But I'm neither dumb or dishonest enough to read that quote and think the expectation or goal was a 3rd possession.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Championship coaches find ways to win. They don't take the ball first in OT playing for a third possession while the guy on the other sideline is planning on playing just two…

So he found a way to convince DJ Moore to stop running thereby causing a pick?

How come he didnt find a way to get point on his first OT posseasion?

This is why you cant be taken seriously. Cant admit the Rams won in spite of McVay poor coaching.

If the 9ers won the same way you'd give all the credit to Saleh.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I agree man. The spin is too strong with you guys. Head coach talks about 3rd possession (UNHEARD OF IN ANY OTHER INTERVIEW WITH EVERY COACH IN THAT POSITION) and no team has made the same decision since the new OT rules have come into effect, but you guys defend it as the right call. Unbelievable…

They dont get it man.

There's zero reason you want the ball first in that situation. Kyle didn't know the rules but won't admit it.

There's three things that can happen if you take the ball second and all are advantageous.

First team doesn't score. Fg wins it going second. Can call play calling however you want.

First team gets a fg. Now you can either play it conservative and go for a tie and play into fg range in 4 down territory, then get conservative, or play the entire drive 4 down territory for the win.

First team gets a touchdown. You have to match

If you go first you have to play it conservative because if you get stopped you have to punt or settle for a fg because the opposing team wins if you give them a short field.

Going second you have a myriad of different ways you can play it. Going first you have to play it like a normal game situation because of the short field fear.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Win or lose head coach gets credit. You hold Kyle to those standards when he wins, then find other factors to blame when he loses. Be consistent in your analysis. Head coach leads the time. Rams win despite playing like s**t. They found a way. Good for McVay. Move on and pray the Pats or Broncos stop him.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Win or lose head coach gets credit. You hold Kyle to those standards when he wins, then find other factors to blame when he loses. Be consistent in your analysis. Head coach leads the time. Rams win despite playing like s**t. They found a way. Good for McVay. Move on and pray the Pats or Broncos stop him.

You are the one that is inconsistent not me. If Kyle is an idiot for the pitch to Juice then so is McVay for his 3rd down pitch to Corum. But because the Bears blew the game you spin it as great coaching. Its laughable.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Thats the point. The Rams won. The 49ers lost. If we won on Saturday who would be talking about the 4th down pitch to Juice ? It would be an afterthought. The Rams won despite asinine play calls by McVay because he more than made up for them. Kyle did not. Don't try to bring down McVay to Kyle's level when one guy overcame hurdles and coached his team to victory while the other managed 6 points in a 41-6 drubbing.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Who else has done it ?

Originally posted by niner4life21:
I'm gonna say this again.

It seems like Rams and Bills both won after taking the ball first in overtime this weekend. How come people are using that against Shanahan?

Note I am not defending Shanahan's decision to receive the ball in the SB overtime, just confused why the Rams and Bills victories would somehow prove he was wrong.

Originally posted by niner4life21:
I'm gonna say this again.

It seems like Rams and Bills both won after taking the ball first in overtime this weekend. How come people are using that against Shanahan?

Note I am not defending Shanahan's decision to receive the ball in the SB overtime, just confused why the Rams and Bills victories would somehow prove he was wrong.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Think this his last year if we don't make it to the nfc championship game atleast

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Think this his last year if we don't make it to the nfc championship game atleast

I think you're wrong

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Think this his last year if we don't make it to the nfc championship game atleast

I think you're wrong

He has had 10 years now, bill Walsh was fired after 10 years with 3 titles, at some point you gotta say it ain't working, as much as I love kyle