49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I love my coach

Same…but he isn't above criticism. The offense is his responsibility, and he came up flat. He needs to place greater emphasis on the OL, find a true WR1, and start playing younger skill players. Watkins, James, and Guerendo should not be riding the pine.

Agreed on OL, disagree on WR1, agree on letting the young players contribute

Who do you feel is capable of being the WR1 on this team currently?

I don't think a WR1 is required if you improve pass protection. And by getting better o linemen the run game would improve also. I despise how much WRs cost compared to what value they provide unless it's Chase or Jefferson level WR1. We just had a top 5 offense without a WR1

I am moving more to this line of thinking. On Spotrac they estimate Jennings will get 22 million a year. 22 million would get you an A+ number 1 corner. It would get you a very good pass rusher. It would get you the best linebacker, the best guard, center, etc. Id rather have a top tier run and pass blocking O line with a group of number 2 and 3 receivers with unique skillsets + an elite TE and FB given who we have at QB and as our playcaller. Unless its Jefferson or Chase, no more big receiver contracts. Jakobi Myers just got 20 million a year. It's insane and none of these big receiver deals have translated to winning.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

As has the team and roster. We need playmakers in addition to pass rushers.

Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

Options are slim when you keep drafting chicken s**t

Shanahan has ZERO accountability for these s**t drafts

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Kyle has become too dependent on CMC.

As has the team and roster. We need playmakers in addition to pass rushers.

Clearly the plan wasn't giving CMC 150 targets heading into this yr.. BA turned into a b***h, our young WRs couldn't figure out s**t and everyone else was playing injured all damn yr.

Kyle made chicken salad with chicken s**t.

Options are slim when you keep drafting chicken s**t

And they still won 12+ games and made it deep into the playoffs SO it's either s**t roster building or bad coaching…you can have it both ways.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Shanahan has ZERO accountability for these s**t drafts

So he MUST be an amazing HC to be going to SBs, NFCCs and deep into the playoffs if the roster is dog s**t. Right? Right?!

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I love my coach

Same…but he isn't above criticism. The offense is his responsibility, and he came up flat. He needs to place greater emphasis on the OL, find a true WR1, and start playing younger skill players. Watkins, James, and Guerendo should not be riding the pine.

Agreed on OL, disagree on WR1, agree on letting the young players contribute

Who do you feel is capable of being the WR1 on this team currently?

I don't think a WR1 is required if you improve pass protection. And by getting better o linemen the run game would improve also. I despise how much WRs cost compared to what value they provide unless it's Chase or Jefferson level WR1. We just had a top 5 offense without a WR1

I am moving more to this line of thinking. On Spotrac they estimate Jennings will get 22 million a year. 22 million would get you an A+ number 1 corner. It would get you a very good pass rusher. It would get you the best linebacker, the best guard, center, etc. Id rather have a top tier run and pass blocking O line with a group of number 2 and 3 receivers with unique skillsets + an elite TE and FB given who we have at QB and as our playcaller. Unless its Jefferson or Chase, no more big receiver contracts. Jakobi Myers just got 20 million a year. It's insane and none of these big receiver deals have translated to winning.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Shanahan has ZERO accountability for these s**t drafts

So he MUST be an amazing HC to be going to SBs, NFCCs and deep into the playoffs if the roster is dog s**t. Right? Right?!

So you don't hold him accountable for drafting the chicken s**t. But you give him credit for taking that chicken s**t and getting 12 wins out of it. But you don't hold him accountable for getting a beat down in Seattle with that same chicken s**t because he had nothing to do with drafting it in the first place ?

Originally posted by DrEll:
So you don't hold him accountable for drafting the chicken s**t. But you give him credit for taking that chicken s**t and getting 12 wins out of it. But you don't hold him accountable for getting a beat down in Seattle with that same chicken s**t because he had nothing to do with drafting it in the first place ?

If holding him accountable is firing him based on this season absolutely not.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Shanahan has ZERO accountability for these s**t drafts

So he MUST be an amazing HC to be going to SBs, NFCCs and deep into the playoffs if the roster is dog s**t. Right? Right?!

Hes a good coach. The players love him. He really understands X's and O's. Thats why he's had success and why he has gotten as far as he has.

However, he is terrible at spotting talent. Hes terrible at situational coaching. Hes the worst at in game adjustments. Hes downright dog s**t when he goes up against a stout defense. That's why he's hasn't won one.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:


Shanahan has ZERO accountability for these s**t drafts

So he MUST be an amazing HC to be going to SBs, NFCCs and deep into the playoffs if the roster is dog s**t. Right? Right?!

So you don't hold him accountable for drafting the chicken s**t. But you give him credit for taking that chicken s**t and getting 12 wins out of it. But you don't hold him accountable for getting a beat down in Seattle with that same chicken s**t because he had nothing to do with drafting it in the first place ?

So he's bad at drafting (even though he's not the main person drafting) BUT is an amazing HC for taking a horrible roster according to you deep into the playoffs and to SBs?

Sounds like you're b***hing about him as a GM (even though he's not) and you SHOULD be grateful he's such a quality HC to make s**t happen with what you can a horrible roster.

AGAIN you can't have it both ways….I've been critical of this team and their draft philosophy. IMO he gives wayyy too much power of his coaching staff in regards to the draft.

As far as the Seattle goes. It was gonna take an act of god to win that s**t. We were rolling into that game superglue and duct taped up. We had backups to backups all over the damn place….if you can't recognize that s**t then you can't be objective

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Hes a good coach. The players love him. He really understands X's and O's. Thats why he's had success and why he has gotten as far as he has.

However, he is terrible at spotting talent. Hes terrible at situational coaching. Hes the worst at in game adjustments. Hes downright dog s**t when he goes up against a stout defense. That's why he's hasn't won one.

Philly isn't a stout defense?

I still think Kyle is very good but he does need to evolve a bit more.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Hes a good coach. The players love him. He really understands X's and O's. Thats why he's had success and why he has gotten as far as he has.

However, he is terrible at spotting talent. Hes terrible at situational coaching. Hes the worst at in game adjustments. Hes downright dog s**t when he goes up against a stout defense. That's why he's hasn't won one.

Philly isn't a stout defense?

Cleveland isn't a stout defense?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Hes a good coach. The players love him. He really understands X's and O's. Thats why he's had success and why he has gotten as far as he has.

However, he is terrible at spotting talent. Hes terrible at situational coaching. Hes the worst at in game adjustments. Hes downright dog s**t when he goes up against a stout defense. That's why he's hasn't won one.

Philly isn't a stout defense?

No. They were good. Not great this year.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Hes a good coach. The players love him. He really understands X's and O's. Thats why he's had success and why he has gotten as far as he has.

However, he is terrible at spotting talent. Hes terrible at situational coaching. Hes the worst at in game adjustments. Hes downright dog s**t when he goes up against a stout defense. That's why he's hasn't won one.

Philly isn't a stout defense?

Cleveland isn't a stout defense?

How much do they score if they didn't get those turnovers and run back?

they only got 252 yards of offense and their td drives were all from either turnovers or huge run backs

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I still think Kyle is very good but he does need to evolve a bit more.

Into what? We've been a run heavy offense for years. Couldn't do s**t there so we became a top 10 passing offense with multiple skilled players and QBs having to take on bigger roles.