49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by niner4life21:
OK, the convo during this season is whether he can win a SB. Be honest, have you seen anything from Kyle this year that would lead you to believe that he can't win a SB? I am narrowing the scope of evidence to this season.

Personally, and I think I speak for a lot us, what I have seen from Shanahan this season actually gives me more confidence in his abilities. Why, you may ask?

Well, he has cast serious doubt on the perception that he can only succeed with a stacked team, or that the team couldn't perform late in games. Well, these 49ers were generally clutch in the 4th quarter of games, hence the close wins, especially at the beginning of the season. He showed (again) that he can adapt the offense based on the QB and skill players on the field. And during the six game winning streak, he called an offense that carried the defense and the overall team, something that was quite the opposite in portions of previous seasons.

With that said, unless the SB discussion is meant to be a backward-looking convo, what have you (and the other anti-Kyle folks) seen this year that would affirm your belief that he can't win the big game? I would think an objective analysis would actually instill more confidence

This is a good post. My personal concerns about Kyle was how his offenses look when we can't run the ball. Generally up until this year the games we couldn't run the ball our offense looked like a steaming pile of poo.

This year gave me confidence that his offense can succeed when the running game isn't working.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Because it's simply not true. SF had the 15th overall SOS this yr. We played in a division that had 3 12+ records, which has never happened before.

And again you toss out crap like Vrabel and Payton are better, yet in the same breath talk about how "easy" Kyle's schedule is….Pats beat one team with a winning record and had the easiest schedule in football. Broncos second easiest schedule in football this yr. I mean Vrabel has been coaching for 7 yrs and is 3-5 in the playoffs. He's never sniffed a SB to even try to lose.

You're critical of his past playoff failures? He has a .667 play record, which is one of the highest among current HCs… that's why we're calling you and others out. Double standards and crazy expectations for Kyle that you clearly don't apply to anyone else. It's all hypocritical crap.

So many assumptions about me.

I hate Kyle? Well that's news to me? I think Payton and Vrabel are better? Again, news for me.

But thank you for telling me how I feel about certain things. Appreciate it.

What assumption should we make about you when you've been told over and over and over that we had the 15th hardest schedule, yet you constantly post that we had the easiest schedule?

What assumption should we make? Can't comprehend info? No memory to retain info? Low IQ? Just post the same false info over and over to get a rise out of people? I could go on but just let us know so we don't have to assume.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You post a list of coaches you think are better with both of them on that list. Don't apply the same context to them that you have for Kyle. You've posted about Andy in here many times and how great of a play caller he is….buy you know can't play call his way to more than 12 pts without his golden boy?

you tell everyone how you feel with each post in here about Kyle.

Did I say that list of coaches were better than Shanahan? Or are you making things up?

Originally posted by krizay:
This is a good post. My personal concerns about Kyle was how his offenses look when we can't run the ball. Generally up until this year the games we couldn't run the ball our offense looked like a steaming pile of poo.

This year gave me confidence that his offense can succeed when the running game isn't working.

It's the QB was holding him back previously. No more

Originally posted by niner4life21:
OK, so what's your point? Those seasons are a testament to Shanahan's abilities? Give me a break. As someone who claims to have watched football for so long, I'm shocked your density prevents you from understanding the reality of a rebuilding phase, something virtually all teams must go through. Or are you going to fault Shanahan for the doings of Trent Baalke, Chip Kelly and Jim Tomsula, the guys that were actually responsible for the condition of the roster that he inherited?

Just try to be a little objective here. I know it's hard for you. If not, you're just a troll and seriously lacking in reasoning/nuance. Corny.

My point was he has 4 losing seasons out of 9. That's it. You can write novels and have a million excuses all you want but a fact is a fact.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You post a list of coaches you think are better with both of them on that list. Don't apply the same context to them that you have for Kyle. You've posted about Andy in here many times and how great of a play caller he is….buy you know can't play call his way to more than 12 pts without his golden boy?

you tell everyone how you feel with each post in here about Kyle.

Did I say that list of coaches were better than Shanahan? Or are you making things up?

See your post below. What was the purpose of your question in bold? You gonna do mental gymnastics now and say you weren't suggesting these guys are better than Shanahan?

Top 5 play caller yes. Top 5 HC? That's debatable. Is he any better of a head coach than these guys?

Andy Reid
Sean McVay
Nick Siriani
Sean Payton
Mike Vrabel
Mike McDonald
Demeco Ryans
Jim Harbaugh
Dan Campbell
Mike Tomlin
Ben Johnson
Liam Cohen
Dave Canales

Hell if we need a fresh start I'd take Jim Harbaugh in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by niner4life21:
OK, so what's your point? Those seasons are a testament to Shanahan's abilities? Give me a break. As someone who claims to have watched football for so long, I'm shocked your density prevents you from understanding the reality of a rebuilding phase, something virtually all teams must go through. Or are you going to fault Shanahan for the doings of Trent Baalke, Chip Kelly and Jim Tomsula, the guys that were actually responsible for the condition of the roster that he inherited?

Just try to be a little objective here. I know it's hard for you. If not, you're just a troll and seriously lacking in reasoning/nuance. Corny.

My point was he has 4 losing seasons out of 9. That's it. You can write novels and have a million excuses all you want but a fact is a fact.

Cool. And the fact is that you don't know football.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
There's also no planet where the 3 sb losses were worse than 2004 or 2005.

Absolutely this, great shout.

I don't remember the 2004 or 2005 seasons. They don't hurt.

the Super Bowl losses are core memories and will forever be emblazoned in my brain.

That's the planet.

Exactly this. 100%

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Cool. And the fact is that you don't know football.

Ah ok. Gotcha.

Maybe you can start a course on football 101 because you know so much?? Or do you want a medal so you can wear it to school and show your friends how much you know about football?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I don't remember the 2004 or 2005 seasons. They don't hurt.

the Super Bowl losses are core memories and will forever be emblazoned in my brain.

That's the planet.

Thats a you problem.

9ers averaged 6.75 punts per game in 2025. In no way shape or form is that somehow better than seeing the team lose a SB because there's no expectations.

Biggest reason you dont likely remember it is because you weren't watching it was so awful.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Did I say that list of coaches were better than Shanahan? Or are you making things up?

What was the point of the list then? I could sit there and poke holes with all those HCs…no different then what you and others do with Kyle,

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Cool. And the fact is that you don't know football.

Ah ok. Gotcha.

Maybe you can start a course on football 101 because you know so much?? Or do you want a medal so you can wear it to school and show your friends how much you know about football?

You want a medal for playing baseball as a kid? Mr. Alpha? Who keeps making stuff up. Doesn't have an ounce of football nuance on a football fan forum. Just throwing your usual tantrums. Grown ass man you say you are.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What assumption should we make about you when you've been told over and over and over that we had the 15th hardest schedule, yet you constantly post that we had the easiest schedule?

What assumption should we make? Can't comprehend info? No memory to retain info? Low IQ? Just post the same false info over and over to get a rise out of people? I could go on but just let us know so we don't have to assume.

Dang. Talk about trolls all you guys want but the Niner squad cheerleaders are out in full force.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
To be fair, he laid out exactly what he doesn't like about Kyle a few pages back. You seemed to have went straight into defense mode in your reply instead of really paying attention to what he was saying. Which we all do after many back and forths with posters. We stop paying attention to what is actually said.

Not sure which post you're referring too? I did however counter his points on some of that as well in another post

Not here to pick a fight. Answering your question.

This one

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
He asks:

"Id rather you just say you hate Kyle and your thought process is based off emotions vs trying to do mental gymnastics on why you're right lol. IMO it's just makes you look ignorant & stupid."

People give reasons like you just listed and it still doesn't matter. It falls on deaf ears and we still aren't fans, we should cheer for other teams, we are hypocrites, we don't know football, we have never played sports etc.

And for the record, I don't hate Shanahan as a playcaller. As a head coach it's a different story.

-I'm tiring of him sticking with players who are mediocre like Brendel because they are veterans.

-I'm tired of him being so stubborn and not mixing it up or giving players chances. Seattle didn't have one player past 10 yards last week because Jennings and Bourne don't threaten deep. Why not put in Skyy Moore who has looked electric or Jordan Watkins who can push it deep? Why not play two TE sets with Kittle and Tonges? Why not play a two RB set? CMC has lost his burst as a runner. Why not play Robinson in the backfield and have CMC in the slot where he thrives?

-I'm tiring of him overthinking things.

-I'm tired of him being ultra conservative although he has been better this year

-I'm tired of his personnel decisions like Davis Price and Sermon in back to back drafts, a kicker in the 3rd, Dante Pettis, Jalen Hurd, Joe Williams. The list is extensive

Bro you hate Kyle. Here we are with basically a lost season all yr and yet this team found ways to win and almost get the 1 seed. First time ever a division had 3 12+ win teams…AND yet here you are (and others) whining about everything with Kyle.

Players have to be able to run the offense, they have to be able to do s**t even when they don't get the ball. It's the reason this offense does well. This isn't a backyard playground scheme. Sorry if that's not what you want, but we don't have the personnel for that. I say all that AND we've been tossing in players all over the damn place because of injuries!

as far as personnel they run 21 personnel more than anyone in football, so not sure what your complaining about there. Yeah I'd love them to use two TE sets more. That's also something that has to be repped out in practice. Brock is a timing and anticipatory thrower. Maybe we see more of this week.

We've gone for it plenty on 4th down. You love McVay, he's also one of the most conservative HCs in football. Seattle had the lowest rate of going for it on 4th down this yr.

Our offense had the best 3rd down conversion rate this yr (play calling where you gotta have it), they were one of the least penalized teams in the league (have been told that's a coaching issue), 5th overall offense in the RZ. Our ST went from last to top 5 etc etc.

His post he clearly states he likes him as a play caller just not a HC and clearly states what he doesn't like as a HC.

You're replies seemed defensive and dismissive.

He states BRob and CMC together and your argument is 21 personnel which we all know is Juice and CMC and not CMC and Brob like Saska wants

You're 4th down argument dont align with us being 31st in attempts. McVay and Seattle had more.

Your final part was about play calling which he clearly stated he liked about Kyle

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
What assumption should we make about you when you've been told over and over and over that we had the 15th hardest schedule, yet you constantly post that we had the easiest schedule?

What assumption should we make? Can't comprehend info? No memory to retain info? Low IQ? Just post the same false info over and over to get a rise out of people? I could go on but just let us know so we don't have to assume.

Dang. Talk about trolls all you guys want but the Niner squad cheerleaders are out in full force.

You're allergic to facts, buddy. Any time someone refutes something you say with facts you shrivel up and say the same emotionally driven nonsense.