49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by genus49:

I doubt Shanahan will win also because unlike you most people expect good things from him.

The voters usually go for the worst to first situation and Vrabel has a great chance at it imo since the rebuild wasn't so clear. Ben Johnson came in and added I think 3 starters in free agency on the OL. That's a pretty big change.

Pats obviously made some big additions in free agency but also got rid of a bunch of guys considered solid players from the year before(we got one of them)

They also don't have the high end skill players like Chicago does so it's even more impressive imo.

I do think your Packers analogy isn't close to what's happening here. The guys they lost were nowhere at the level of Bosa and Warner. Nor did they have to go to their backup for as many games as we did. And Driver was their WR4 that season.

I doubt the biggest homers on this board would've expected us to be playing for the chance at the 1 seed in week 17 if they were told Aiyuk would never play for the team again, Bosa would be out for the year in week 3, Warner week 6. Our top draft pick would be out in week 10(or whenever that was) Purdy, Pearsall and Kittle would miss a handful of games.

Whether Kyle wins or not doesn't change the fact that he's doing a hell of a job this season, even if you'd never admit it.

Personally for reasons you've mentioned among others; I think this is the best coaching job by Kyle yet. Whether we make the SB or not; it's freaking impressive by any standard in any era…..period.

The most ironic part is, there's this massively-believed narrative that we played a cupcake schedule and that's why we're a playoff team… but when we're done playing the Bears and Seahawks our final SOS is going to end up around .485. That's not THAT easy of a schedule.

Looking at the strength of schedule at the beiginning of the year is a litte silly. Every year there are teams that take a big jump and rise up while others fall. Injuries often are a major factor. There really aren't any easy schedules because teams are more evenly matched in the NFL. Look how quickly NE came back while Detroit and KC dropped down.

Yeah you just have to look at our Division to see that we did not have an easy schedule this year.

The only win that surprised me was the Rams win, but every team that's not the 0-16 Lions has a surprising win in them, so it's not that incredible when you look at it like that

We have taken care of the teams that we're supposed to, but to me that's not something to lose our minds over. Kyle is still making inexcusable decisions that could cost us against better teams (did it just this past weekend against the colts too) so I personally want to see him clean some things up going into the postseason

This weekend against Colts:

Doesn't stop the clock during Colts drive before half. Refs bailed Kyle out with that awful pass interference call, but Kyle was throwing a potential scoring opportunity away

Another dumb challenge. Costs us a timeout, then the headset goes out and we're down to 1 timeout. Stuff like that is huge in the playoffs. Can't have that happen again

Another dumb non-challenge. Got bailed out by Brock/CMC/Colts defense on the next play

Calls a pass to the middle of the field with 4 min left when we are in FG range. Just run clock and kick the FG and the game is over. He really needs to learn this. Dee winters bailed him out, but it was still a dumb decision that could cost us against better teams

He's been scheming his ass off (that's all he's ever focused on) but his coaching still needs to be better

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This weekend against Colts:

Doesn't stop the clock during Colts drive before half. Refs bailed Kyle out with that awful pass interference call, but Kyle was throwing a potential scoring opportunity away

Another dumb challenge. Costs us a timeout, then the headset goes out and we're down to 1 timeout. Stuff like that is huge in the playoffs. Can't have that happen again

Another dumb non-challenge. Got bailed out by Brock/CMC/Colts defense on the next play

Calls a pass to the middle of the field with 4 min left when we are in FG range. Just run clock and kick the FG and the game is over. He really needs to learn this. Dee winters bailed him out, but it was still a dumb decision that could cost us against better teams

He's been scheming his ass off (that's all he's ever focused on) but his coaching still needs to be better

Dude give it a rest. Just be happy we have one of the best HCs in football.

the whining over Kyle is so ridiculous, especially with what we have out there this yr. I've watched Andy Reid get "bailed out" by Mahomes for years, yet ya'll get tight in the pants over him. Apply your train of thought to every single HC or just hush up with the hypocrisy

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

This weekend against Colts:

Doesn't stop the clock during Colts drive before half. Refs bailed Kyle out with that awful pass interference call, but Kyle was throwing a potential scoring opportunity away

Another dumb challenge. Costs us a timeout, then the headset goes out and we're down to 1 timeout. Stuff like that is huge in the playoffs. Can't have that happen again

Another dumb non-challenge. Got bailed out by Brock/CMC/Colts defense on the next play

Calls a pass to the middle of the field with 4 min left when we are in FG range. Just run clock and kick the FG and the game is over. He really needs to learn this. Dee winters bailed him out, but it was still a dumb decision that could cost us against better teams

He's been scheming his ass off (that's all he's ever focused on) but his coaching still needs to be better

Dude give it a rest. Just be happy we have one of the best HCs in football.

the whining over Kyle is so ridiculous, especially with what we have out there this yr. I've watched Andy Reid get "bailed out" by Mahomes for years, yet ya'll get tight in the pants over him. Apply your train of thought to every single HC or just hush up with the hypocrisy

Until he stops making inexcusable mistakes that could cost us, I'm not going to be happy. He has no rings and has lost SBs making bad decisions like that. He needs to learn, plain and simple. There is no excuses for these same mistakes at this point

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Until he stops making inexcusable mistakes that could cost us, I'm not going to be happy. He has no rings and has lost SBs making bad decisions like that. He needs to learn, plain and simple. There is no excuses for these same mistakes at this point

Every. Single. HC. Makes mistakes….your problem is you exaggerate with Kyle and downplay how the rest of the league and head coaches do their job. Reid's lost SBs (3 times) clearly only because of him derp lol. Tomlin can't even get to a SB with him own team, it's been 16 years now. Talk about not being able to evaluate the QB position 🤮

love how you just ignore the "bail out" response with Reid and Mahomes. We all watch the games my dude…not just you.

So every lost Super Bowl is on the HC? Every SB win is on the HC? The players executing means nothing? Injuries mean nothing? The amount of lazy ass subjective takes from a handful of people because they want to be right so bad is so f**king stupid in here. The ignorance is next level.

you can't be objective with him, you've formed your opinion and you will dig your own grave over it. There's not reflecting on any of it. Just stubborn b******t half ass takes over and over.

This is the same debate about criticism that happens in the quarterback thread, but some posters have traded places.

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
This is the same debate about criticism that happens in the quarterback thread, but some posters have traded places.

Some posters in the QB thread actually have no problem saying their QB is playing well when he is….theres receipts to back it up.

when the QB is tossing a bunch of back breaking INTs and not playing well, I see no problem for criticism. When Kyle is being a horrible HC and losing games then criticism is fair. There's a f**k ton of nuance when we want to talk about losing and who's the reason why… Same s**t when they're winning. I don't see why that's such a difficult thing to understand for some in here.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only win that surprised me was the Rams win, but every team that's not the 0-16 Lions has a surprising win in them, so it's not that incredible when you look at it like that

We have taken care of the teams that we're supposed to, but to me that's not something to lose our minds over. Kyle is still making inexcusable decisions that could cost us against better teams (did it just this past weekend against the colts too) so I personally want to see him clean some things up going into the postseason

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This weekend against Colts:

Doesn't stop the clock during Colts drive before half. Refs bailed Kyle out with that awful pass interference call, but Kyle was throwing a potential scoring opportunity away

Another dumb challenge. Costs us a timeout, then the headset goes out and we're down to 1 timeout. Stuff like that is huge in the playoffs. Can't have that happen again

Another dumb non-challenge. Got bailed out by Brock/CMC/Colts defense on the next play

Calls a pass to the middle of the field with 4 min left when we are in FG range. Just run clock and kick the FG and the game is over. He really needs to learn this. Dee winters bailed him out, but it was still a dumb decision that could cost us against better teams

He's been scheming his ass off (that's all he's ever focused on) but his coaching still needs to be better

Can't disagree with most of the post content here. Kyle is a great coach but he can make bonehead mistakes. It was frustrating to see him make some decisions that he did against the Colts..had it been a better team..idk. I don't see what's wrong with being critical of Shanny, he does need to clean things up. Is he above criticism? Like, why is it cool to be super critical of players, e.g., Brock and whine all day long when he makes a mistake lol and that is fine..but when it comes to Shanny, just shut up and be happy? Lol. Both coach and qb1 are exceptional but not perfect and sometimes make mistakes that can be worked on. Nothing wrong with mentioning it. It is not like you are b***hing for pages..just to b***h.. you're just calling out the obvious.

The challenge and non challenge had most of us scratching our heads. As well as the late pass. And clock management has been iffy sometimes for Shanny. Idk if he overthinks/has too much in his head at times..idk what. Brain farts can defo cost us in the big games..and it has in the SBs. He obviously, is coaching his ass off this year and it's been incredible to see what he has done with so much adversity. Just clean up the brain fart moments plz

Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
This is the same debate about criticism that happens in the quarterback thread, but some posters have traded places.

Both Kyle and Brock have f**ked up in their careers, s**t happens, nobody is perfect. What I like to think about is why mistakes are made. And not just throw out s**t like.. horrible, just fire this person..well, unless it's Sorensen lol.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The only win that surprised me was the Rams win, but every team that's not the 0-16 Lions has a surprising win in them, so it's not that incredible when you look at it like that

We have taken care of the teams that we're supposed to, but to me that's not something to lose our minds over. Kyle is still making inexcusable decisions that could cost us against better teams (did it just this past weekend against the colts too) so I personally want to see him clean some things up going into the postseason

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
This weekend against Colts:

Doesn't stop the clock during Colts drive before half. Refs bailed Kyle out with that awful pass interference call, but Kyle was throwing a potential scoring opportunity away

Another dumb challenge. Costs us a timeout, then the headset goes out and we're down to 1 timeout. Stuff like that is huge in the playoffs. Can't have that happen again

Another dumb non-challenge. Got bailed out by Brock/CMC/Colts defense on the next play

Calls a pass to the middle of the field with 4 min left when we are in FG range. Just run clock and kick the FG and the game is over. He really needs to learn this. Dee winters bailed him out, but it was still a dumb decision that could cost us against better teams

He's been scheming his ass off (that's all he's ever focused on) but his coaching still needs to be better

Can't disagree with most of the post content here. Kyle is a great coach but he can make bonehead mistakes. It was frustrating to see him make some decisions that he did against the Colts..had it been a better team..idk. I don't see what's wrong with being critical of Shanny, he does need to clean things up. Is he above criticism? Like, why is it cool to be super critical of players, e.g., Brock and whine all day long when he makes a mistake lol and that is fine..but when it comes to Shanny, just shut up and be happy? Lol. Both coach and qb1 are exceptional but not perfect and sometimes make mistakes that can be worked on. Nothing wrong with mentioning it. It is not like you are b***hing for pages..just to b***h.. you're just calling out the obvious.

The challenge and non challenge had most of us scratching our heads. As well as the late pass. And clock management has been iffy sometimes for Shanny. Idk if he overthinks/has too much in his head at times..idk what. Brain farts can defo cost us in the big games..and it has in the SBs. He obviously, is coaching his ass off this year and it's been incredible to see what he has done with so much adversity. Just clean up the brain fart moments plz

Can't wait for NY's deflection

Originally posted by Montana:
Can't disagree with most of the post content here. Kyle is a great coach but he can make bonehead mistakes. It was frustrating to see him make some decisions that he did against the Colts..had it been a better team..idk. I don't see what's wrong with being critical of Shanny, he does need to clean things up. Is he above criticism? Like, why is it cool to be super critical of players, e.g., Brock and whine all day long when he makes a mistake lol and that is fine..but when it comes to Shanny, just shut up and be happy? Lol. Both coach and qb1 are exceptional but not perfect and sometimes make mistakes that can be worked on. Nothing wrong with mentioning it. It is not like you are b***hing for pages..just to b***h.. you're just calling out the obvious.

The challenge and non challenge had most of us scratching our heads. As well as the late pass. And clock management has been iffy sometimes for Shanny. Idk if he overthinks/has too much in his head at times..idk what. Brain farts can defo cost us in the big games..and it has in the SBs. He obviously, is coaching his ass off this year and it's been incredible to see what he has done with so much adversity. Just clean up the brain fart moments plz

lol so you can say Kyle makes boneheaded mistakes, yet you will defend brock until the end of days?

Its not shut up and be happy, its be the same for the QB (or any player). You know the guy that's making vastly more money. The guy who actually touches the football. You can call great plays and coach your ass off…means absolutely nothing if the players can't execute the plays.

I swear it's like none of you played sports.

QB brain farts costs teams games every week. Yet no one can dare hold the QB accountable…it's gotta be something else.

overall the HC matters a ton. He isn't the one playing the game though. He's not the one miss in a tackle, throwing a INT, missing a block, fumbling etc. accountability should be a two way street…some of you can't really do that for whatever reason.

And OH he's been b***hing about Kyle for years. IMO this isn't the time to be whining about Kyle's coaching.

Originally posted by Koldo:


Can't wait for NY's deflection

Bringing up objective points isn't deflecting boss. We got a COTY candidate and ya'll are being salty whiners. Shocking it's the same half a dozen posters

Wahhh we only put up 48pts on MNF vs a team that's fighting for a playoff spot. Horrible coaching wahhh.

how dare I compare Kyle to the rest of the coaches in the league and talk about how they've been "bailed out" by generational QBs or lost multiple SB, which apparently are ONLY because of coaching.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Every. Single. HC. Makes mistakes….your problem is you exaggerate with Kyle and downplay how the rest of the league and head coaches do their job. Reid's lost SBs (3 times) clearly only because of him derp lol. Tomlin can't even get to a SB with him own team, it's been 16 years now. Talk about not being able to evaluate the QB position 🤮

love how you just ignore the "bail out" response with Reid and Mahomes. We all watch the games my dude…not just you.

So every lost Super Bowl is on the HC? Every SB win is on the HC? The players executing means nothing? Injuries mean nothing? The amount of lazy ass subjective takes from a handful of people because they want to be right so bad is so f**king stupid in here. The ignorance is next level.

you can't be objective with him, you've formed your opinion and you will dig your own grave over it. There's not reflecting on any of it. Just stubborn b******t half ass takes over and over.

Not every lost Superbowl. Somehow losing to the worst SB winner of this century was unavoidable.

Harbaugh was also completely blameless in one of the worst offensive performances in NFL history in last years playoff.

You have to understand who you are debating. Kyle has a bar that no other coach is expected to meet.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Koldo:


Can't wait for NY's deflection

Bringing up objective points isn't deflecting boss. We got a COTY candidate and ya'll are being salty whiners. Shocking it's the same half a dozen posters

So calling Kyle out on making the same mistakes that have costed us in big games before is off limits? Cause I remember you throwing around stats, i. e. QB turnover-worthy plays, to knock Brock even after a win.

Can you see the double standard?