49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

I dunno you guys can't seem to stop talking about them...

Weird right? Discussing the team we support.

Technically you guys are discussing Kyle, and from what I've read the past few pages I don't see much support from one side.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

I dunno you guys can't seem to stop talking about them...

Weird right? Discussing the team we support.

Technically you guys are discussing Kyle, and from what I've read the past few pages I don't see much support from one side.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Nobody is criticizing Andy Reid, simply pointing out that it wasn't his great plan to draft Mahomes. He's lucky Denver stopped him from making a gigantic mistake.

Where do we think Andy Reid would be right now without Chris Jones or Paxton Lynch instead of Mahomes? Do we think he's a SB winning HC?

This is what some people refuse to understand. It took Andy Reid lucking into Mahomes to suddenly become great and somehow infallible by some people's standards.

CharlieSheen out here trying to pretend Andy has these undefendable plays saved in his back pocket unlike other coaches for crying out loud.

Also...there are plenty of busts drafted by Andy Reid and Solomon Thomas isn't anywhere close to top 5 busts in NFL history. Talk about hyperbole.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Nobody is criticizing Andy Reid, simply pointing out that it wasn't his great plan to draft Mahomes. He's lucky Denver stopped him from making a gigantic mistake.

Where do we think Andy Reid would be right now without Chris Jones or Paxton Lynch instead of Mahomes? Do we think he's a SB winning HC?

This is what some people refuse to understand. It took Andy Reid lucking into Mahomes to suddenly become great and somehow infallible by some people's standards.

CharlieSheen out here trying to pretend Andy has these undefendable plays saved in his back pocket unlike other coaches for crying out loud.

Also...there are plenty of busts drafted by Andy Reid and Solomon Thomas isn't anywhere close to top 5 busts in NFL history. Talk about hyperbole.

Yeah nowhere did I criticize Reid. In fact, I said he was a great HC the 20 yrs prior to landing Mahomes BUT everyone in here who's butthurt about Kyle would have hated him all the same prior to that 2019 season lol…like Andy didn't exist before then

My question, which none of them will answer is why is Andy's team playing like 💩 this yr…you know because it's all about the HC and he's this elite play caller.

Their team is no different than last yr, unlike what moon thinks they're actually one of the youngest teams in the league, they don't have a massive amount of injuries AND their generational QB has been on the field all damn year.

We're tossing out great RZ "play calls" with Andy….well they've been WORSE in the RZ the past 3 seasons compared to SF.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Technically you guys are discussing Kyle, and from what I've read the past few pages I don't see much support from one side.

It's such a stale and boring thing to dwell over. s**ts done, move on. It's a football game that has dozens of things happen that can change the outcome of them.

The fact that winning ONE game completely changes the narrative for some folks regarding if someone is untouchable/great or bad is so dumb.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Nobody is criticizing Andy Reid, simply pointing out that it wasn't his great plan to draft Mahomes. He's lucky Denver stopped him from making a gigantic mistake.

Where do we think Andy Reid would be right now without Chris Jones or Paxton Lynch instead of Mahomes? Do we think he's a SB winning HC?

This is what some people refuse to understand. It took Andy Reid lucking into Mahomes to suddenly become great and somehow infallible by some people's standards.

CharlieSheen out here trying to pretend Andy has these undefendable plays saved in his back pocket unlike other coaches for crying out loud.

Also...there are plenty of busts drafted by Andy Reid and Solomon Thomas isn't anywhere close to top 5 busts in NFL history. Talk about hyperbole.

Yeah nowhere did I criticize Reid. In fact, I said he was a great HC the 20 yrs prior to landing Mahomes BUT everyone in here who's butthurt about Kyle would have hated him all the same prior to that 2019 season lol…like Andy didn't exist before then

My question, which none of them will answer is why is Andy's team playing like 💩 this yr…you know because it's all about the HC and he's this elite play caller.

Their team is no different than last yr, unlike what moon thinks they're actually one of the youngest teams in the league, they don't have a massive amount of injuries AND their generational QB has been on the field all damn year.

We're tossing out great RZ "play calls" with Andy….well they've been WORSE in the RZ the past 3 seasons compared to SF.

Originally posted by Koldo:
NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

How is Thomas a top 5 bust in NFL History?

Originally posted by Koldo:
NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Solomon Thomas is not even close to being a top 5 bust in NFL history. Bad pick yes but dude is in his 9th year in the league. Busts are players who suck so bad they don't even sign a 2nd contract.

__PRESENT

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Koldo:
NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Solomon Thomas is not even close to being a top 5 bust in NFL history. Bad pick yes but dude is in his 9th year in the league. Busts are players who suck so bad they don't even sign a 2nd contract.

__PRESENT

He's a good rotational player.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:
You knock Reid for this, but Kyle gets a pass for giving up three 1st round picks to draft a high school QB, amirite?

Who gave Kyle a pass for this? If your arguments and takes are make belief or hypotheticals there isn't much to your take...

NY and other posters criticize Reid for almost f**king up when Kyle has been involved in actual, massive f**k ups (Solomon Thomas and Trey Lance, two of the top-5 busts in NFL history).

Nobody is criticizing Andy Reid, simply pointing out that it wasn't his great plan to draft Mahomes. He's lucky Denver stopped him from making a gigantic mistake.

Where do we think Andy Reid would be right now without Chris Jones or Paxton Lynch instead of Mahomes? Do we think he's a SB winning HC?

This is what some people refuse to understand. It took Andy Reid lucking into Mahomes to suddenly become great and somehow infallible by some people's standards.

CharlieSheen out here trying to pretend Andy has these undefendable plays saved in his back pocket unlike other coaches for crying out loud.

Also...there are plenty of busts drafted by Andy Reid and Solomon Thomas isn't anywhere close to top 5 busts in NFL history. Talk about hyperbole.

Yeah nowhere did I criticize Reid. In fact, I said he was a great HC the 20 yrs prior to landing Mahomes BUT everyone in here who's butthurt about Kyle would have hated him all the same prior to that 2019 season lol…like Andy didn't exist before then

My question, which none of them will answer is why is Andy's team playing like 💩 this yr…you know because it's all about the HC and he's this elite play caller.

Their team is no different than last yr, unlike what moon thinks they're actually one of the youngest teams in the league, they don't have a massive amount of injuries AND their generational QB has been on the field all damn year.

We're tossing out great RZ "play calls" with Andy….well they've been WORSE in the RZ the past 3 seasons compared to SF.

I love my coach! (I mean Del Bosque, not Kyle )

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Both QBs got their coach to the doorstep (we were there twice in 2023) but only Andy had the gimme play up his sleeve to bring it home. CJ Beathard could run this play

You still going on about this BS? Where was this play at the end of regulation? Absolutely casual take thinking Andy has some undefendable plays saved when he needs them.

This isn't anything special. You catch a defense in a bad look with your playcall and you get this happening. Kyle does this all the time as well you just don't remember those plays because they're not SB game winners.

Exactly. You just hit the nail on the head.

NO ONE remembers Super Bowl losers.

I dunno you guys can't seem to stop talking about them...

Weird right? Discussing the team we support.

Nick Bosa isn't a bust by any means but fans are always complaining about certain players being injury prone. By the end of this season Bosa will have missed 27% of the 117 games possible. Nearly 2 complete seasons lost.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Nick Bosa isn't a bust by any means but fans are always complaining about certain players being injury prone. By the end of this season Bosa will have missed 27% of the 117 games possible. Nearly 2 complete seasons lost.

Joe burrow says hi too. Brock has missed his fair share of games as well. There's a laundry list of good players who have missed way more than you'd like.

It's football and when you have massive humans flying all over the place and hitting/falling on each other, it's next to impossible for them to not get hurt

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 9moon:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO (Andy and Shanny)

Andy knows he can't win with his system alone while Shanny believes that he can win with any players under his system.

... AND THAT'S THE WHOLE TRUTH !!!

And you know this......HOW?

it's a given.. Andy couldn't win with McNabb because he was an above average QB.. even with TO, it was just not enough... he knew his system was not going be enough so he went out of his way and GAMBLED on Mahomes... something that Shanny did not want to THOUGH he confirmed that he felt that Mahomes was a Freak of Nature BUT he rather have it his way w/Hoyer and Cj ..

if it's hard for you to know this.. then OUCHHHH !!!

he also had a chance with TB12 but went with Grappy, a QB he was never ALL IN..