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  • DrEll
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
This applies to every team in every game ever. In what scenario can you blame a head coach when it's always the players that have to execute. No coach draws up turnovers penalties injuries bad weather bad refs etc.

However, good coaches find ways to overcome all those things. It's what separates SB winners vs losers. Hell, Travis Kelce and Andy Reid almost go into a boxing match in that '23 Super Bowl. But at the end Mahomes and Reid found ways to make it count. Kyle didn't. It was the second SB in 5 years where he just couldn't get his team to step on the opposition's throat with a lead.

sucks for us…

Once again…what was Andy Reid waiting for when Dre Greenlaw was in the game?

Guess Reid schemed up Dre's Achilles popping? Our DC rolled out the red carpet for Mahomes in OT. Reid didn't dial up anything special.

You can't claim with a straight face say Shanahan didn't have the offense ready to close the game out when the kicker missed an extra point and the defense can't hold a 3 point lead or the 2nd year QB makes the wrong read with Aiyuk open for the first down and ability for us to run the clock down and kick the game winner.

It's literally the difference in a game. Their DC disguised a hell of a blitz and our young QB didn't read it right and make the play that was there to win the game. Then in OT the replacement RG freelanced like an idiot and doesn't block their best player on the DL and we can't get the layup TD.

Ridiculous take but also on brand.

lol what a joke. Once again, you try to make something out of nothing. The score was 3-0 when Greenlaw go injured in the 2nd quarter. Not like Kyle was dialing up an unstoppable game plan on offense that had the Chiefs on the ropes. But wait, don't hold your breath. I know where you're going with this. If CMC hadn't fumbled, and Trent hadn't committed that penalty, we'd be winning 55-0
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I can see Vrable winning for 2 reraqsons. One he's done a goood job. The other reason is there are more sportswriters in the eastern part of th the country so there's always a little bias. Same as with the Heismann award.

Kinda disagree with the east coast west coast bias. Maybe back in the day, not so much now.

I do agree vrabel and Johnson have done a good job and would be deserving.
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Get ready for the "Kyle Shanahan doesn't want those guys cuz he wants to win by himself" takes...
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by DrEll:
This applies to every team in every game ever. In what scenario can you blame a head coach when it's always the players that have to execute. No coach draws up turnovers penalties injuries bad weather bad refs etc.

However, good coaches find ways to overcome all those things. It's what separates SB winners vs losers. Hell, Travis Kelce and Andy Reid almost go into a boxing match in that '23 Super Bowl. But at the end Mahomes and Reid found ways to make it count. Kyle didn't. It was the second SB in 5 years where he just couldn't get his team to step on the opposition's throat with a lead.

sucks for us…

Once again…what was Andy Reid waiting for when Dre Greenlaw was in the game?

Guess Reid schemed up Dre's Achilles popping? Our DC rolled out the red carpet for Mahomes in OT. Reid didn't dial up anything special.

You can't claim with a straight face say Shanahan didn't have the offense ready to close the game out when the kicker missed an extra point and the defense can't hold a 3 point lead or the 2nd year QB makes the wrong read with Aiyuk open for the first down and ability for us to run the clock down and kick the game winner.

It's literally the difference in a game. Their DC disguised a hell of a blitz and our young QB didn't read it right and make the play that was there to win the game. Then in OT the replacement RG freelanced like an idiot and doesn't block their best player on the DL and we can't get the layup TD.

Ridiculous take but also on brand.

lol what a joke. Once again, you try to make something out of nothing. The score was 3-0 when Greenlaw go injured in the 2nd quarter. Not like Kyle was dialing up an unstoppable game plan on offense that had the Chiefs on the ropes. But wait, don't hold your breath. I know where you're going with this. If CMC hadn't fumbled, and Trent hadn't committed that penalty, we'd be winning 55-0

Yawn...
Originally posted by DrEll:
lol what a joke. Once again, you try to make something out of nothing. The score was 3-0 when Greenlaw go injured in the 2nd quarter. Not like Kyle was dialing up an unstoppable game plan on offense that had the Chiefs on the ropes. But wait, don't hold your breath. I know where you're going with this. If CMC hadn't fumbled, and Trent hadn't committed that penalty, we'd be winning 55-0

In a OT game s**t like fumbling in the RZ or a stupid penalty is the difference in a W or L.

what's Reid's excuse this yr? They look like s**t and have had their generational QB all yr. No turnover in the coaching staff. They're bottom of the league in APY on reserve list as well. SF is 2nd overall
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Allen had to develop and even Mahomes sat a year. Kyle doesn't develop raw QBs (we've seen him try and it was ugly). He's not Andy at all and the McNabb incident proves it

Feliciano was doing an interview and he said their calls on the Bills are very simple, like 2 words. There's no guarantee a raw prospect like Allen develops while trying to learn footwork and an overly complicated system

So who can develop Trey Lance?

Funny how people have no problem blaming Shanahan for not drafting Mahomes but still talk about how he would've ruined him if he had...pick a lane.

Kyle Shanahan has the most QB friendly system...until he doesn't.

Let's just pretend he didn't get RG3 to play PB level football as a rookie.

The simple fact is 49ers messed up big drafting Lance and it was likely in part due to covid issues that made that mistake more likely with Lance only playing one game and then not really working out.
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Get ready for the "Kyle Shanahan doesn't want those guys cuz he wants to win by himself" takes...

I'd rather go with "Kyle can't evaluate QB talent to save his life".
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by krizay:
For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

Patriots have had a next level easy schedule.

Perhaps but in the 6 common games.

SF
5-1 +43 point differential

NE
6-0. +78 point differential

Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:

That's actually a good point.

This is not Purdy hate just a thought experiment.

could you imagine if KS had Josh Allen or Mahomes? wow.

Get ready for the "Kyle Shanahan doesn't want those guys cuz he wants to win by himself" takes...

I'd rather go with "Kyle can't evaluate QB talent to save his life".

And yet he's gotten two QBs massive paydays (just in SF) and consistently has this team in a position to win every damn near every week for the past 7 yrs.

folks like Tomlin in here…longest tenured HC and he's developed zero QBs.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I can see Vrable winning for 2 reraqsons. One he's done a goood job. The other reason is there are more sportswriters in the eastern part of th the country so there's always a little bias. Same as with the Heismann award.

Kinda disagree with the east coast west coast bias. Maybe back in the day, not so much now.

I do agree vrabel and Johnson have done a good job and would be deserving.

There are more voters in that part of the country. I don't think it's a bias like the fans might have. It's more a case of they might see more of those teams so they naturally develop some level of appreciation.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by krizay:
For me he's in the top 3 for sure. Even with our injuries I still think we have more talent than NE yet Vrable is sitting 11-2. Carolina is tied with TB for division lead and they have 2 games vs each other. If Carolina wins that division that coach should be COTY hands down.

If they dont it's s toss up between Shanny and Vrable in my opinion. It all depends on how the last 4 weeks play out.

Patriots have had a next level easy schedule.

Perhaps but in the 6 common games.

SF
5-1 +43 point differential

NE
6-0. +78 point differential

good stats for both team …SF also has $58M more on IR and had their backup QB play almost half the season
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
There are more voters in that part of the country. I don't think it's a bias like the fans might have. It's more a case of they might see more of those teams so they naturally develop some level of appreciation.

These voters aren't just watching east coast games though. A lot of these west coast games are on at 4PM here. It's not like they just shut off the TV after the earlier games are done.
  • DrEll
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DrEll:
lol what a joke. Once again, you try to make something out of nothing. The score was 3-0 when Greenlaw go injured in the 2nd quarter. Not like Kyle was dialing up an unstoppable game plan on offense that had the Chiefs on the ropes. But wait, don't hold your breath. I know where you're going with this. If CMC hadn't fumbled, and Trent hadn't committed that penalty, we'd be winning 55-0

In a OT game s**t like fumbling in the RZ or a stupid penalty is the difference in a W or L.

what's Reid's excuse this yr? They look like s**t and have had their generational QB all yr. No turnover in the coaching staff. They're bottom of the league in APY on reserve list as well. SF is 2nd overall

Reid is a 3 time Super Bowl winner. Does he really need an excuse ?
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
It seems like everyone can beat the Chiefs besides us.

Just our luck that we aren't playing them now that they're struggling.

YOU kidding? the moment we play them is the moment they get back on track.. Shanny can't do it..

You choking teh chicken again in the basement dude, you must be dried up

NOT as dry as you are Sugah !!
Originally posted by DrEll:
Reid is a 3 time Super Bowl winner. Does he really need an excuse ?

Why is the 3x SB HC's team playing like s**t this yr? Basically same roster as last yr, healthy goat QB, next to no real injuries?

explain instead of deflecting….
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Dec 10, 2025 at 9:45 AM ]
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