49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by susweel:
Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

Clearly doesn't know what he'd doing and is in over his head.

Interesting. It feels like we throw way more...guess not.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Interesting. It feels like we throw way more...guess not.

Defenses facing the pass-heaviest playcalling while in neutral game scripts during the last month:

TEN 69.2%
GB 64.6%
CAR 63.6%
OAK 62.6%
ARZ 60.8%
NE 60.7%

Most run-heavy:

DEN 52.3%
DET 50.6%
SF 50.3%
CLE 49.3%
PHI 48.5%
CHI 48.1%

— Pat Thorman (@Pat_Thorman) November 29, 2017

I think that list is showing which defenses have faced the most passes. So offenses are passing a lot when playing the TEN defense.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by gold49digger:
Is it me or is there a little less penalties as the season rolls on? Especially with rashard gone.

Yes, they have gone down from 8 per game at the end of September to 7.7 per game right now and they have averaged 7 per game over the past three.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game?date=2017-11-30

nice very promising for a young team. Hope to see it go down even more.

Originally posted by cciowa:

i am underwhelmed by him and am concerned he is playing well just cuz its a contract year. i have always said. i totally get those who say the want for a new running back is not as crucial as a need for other positions. i also have no confidence the rookie we drafted last year will come back. i think the team hopefully will find a nice back in fourth or fifth round. i believe the entire offensive line should be revamped. i get resigning hyde. i think he is not good in pass protection , gets hurt alot and dances alot but i get what you said considering our poor line

Hyde's effort has never been in question as far as I know. It's been his durability. This year he just has managed to not get hurt too bad. I don't think at all that it's a Kenny Britt contract year situation.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Interesting. It feels like we throw way more...guess not.

Defenses facing the pass-heaviest playcalling while in neutral game scripts during the last month:

TEN 69.2%
GB 64.6%
CAR 63.6%
OAK 62.6%
ARZ 60.8%
NE 60.7%

Most run-heavy:

DEN 52.3%
DET 50.6%
SF 50.3%
CLE 49.3%
PHI 48.5%
CHI 48.1%

— Pat Thorman (@Pat_Thorman) November 29, 2017

I think that list is showing which defenses have faced the most passes. So offenses are passing a lot when playing the TEN defense.

Ohhh...lol...totally read that wrong.

Originally posted by Follower:

Just not impressed at all....

Grant Cohn is the least impressive "writer" in the Bay Area and it isn't even close. He's lucky his dad was a colossal prick that stuck around long enough to get his son a gig.

The cutest part is when he tries to talk X's and O's.....talk about not impressed.

But the latest article is seriously laugh out loud funny....."he's no longer a functional QB, he had to replace him" Talk about forcing a narrative.

Here's an interesting fact....we are actually taking less sacks this year then the past 3 seasons.

2014- 52 sacks on 539 pass plays = 9.6%
2015- 53 sacks on 579 pass plays = 9.2%
2016- 47 sacks on 538 pass plays = 8.7%
2017- 35 sacks on 466 pass plays = 7.5%

Pass plays totals are pass attempts plus sacks. Based our '17 averages a total season projection for us would be 51 sacks on 677 pass plays. So basically, having the same amount of sacks as our past 3 coaches despite calling 100+ more pass plays. Just look at past led Kyle offenses, he had a sack rate of 5.6% in '08 with Houston, a 6.9% in '12 with Washington and a 6.4% with Atlanta in '16.

Just as a baseline, our 1994 offense had a sack rate of 6.4%. '94 is usually my base line for all things encompassing a really great offense. If you want a modern example the Pats are currently at a 5.5% sack rate. The interesting thing now is to he how this number goes with Jimmy in and how it develops as the quality of the OL improves.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

A great partnership between Shanny and Jimmy. Couldn't have asked for anything better.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

True love

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

I remember before the season, Kyle said he doesn't do wristband for his qb because he wants his qb to not only call the plays but understands them.

But when your team is 1-10

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Follower:

Just not impressed at all....

Grant Cohn is the least impressive "writer" in the Bay Area and it isn't even close. He's lucky his dad was a colossal prick that stuck around long enough to get his son a gig.

The cutest part is when he tries to talk X's and O's.....talk about not impressed.

But the latest article is seriously laugh out loud funny....."he's no longer a functional QB, he had to replace him" Talk about forcing a narrative.

Here's an interesting fact....we are actually taking less sacks this year then the past 3 seasons.

2014- 52 sacks on 539 pass plays = 9.6%
2015- 53 sacks on 579 pass plays = 9.2%
2016- 47 sacks on 538 pass plays = 8.7%
2017- 35 sacks on 466 pass plays = 7.5%

Pass plays totals are pass attempts plus sacks. Based our '17 averages a total season projection for us would be 51 sacks on 677 pass plays. So basically, having the same amount of sacks as our past 3 coaches despite calling 100+ more pass plays. Just look at past led Kyle offenses, he had a sack rate of 5.6% in '08 with Houston, a 6.9% in '12 with Washington and a 6.4% with Atlanta in '16.

Just as a baseline, our 1994 offense had a sack rate of 6.4%. '94 is usually my base line for all things encompassing a really great offense. If you want a modern example the Pats are currently at a 5.5% sack rate. The interesting thing now is to he how this number goes with Jimmy in and how it develops as the quality of the OL improves.

We've done a good job at making sure the QBs are coached to get the ball out quick and avoid sacks. We're just taking an astronomical amount of hits. I mean, if you recall, even though Hoyer got the ball out quick too, there were a number of times he got crushed too and was rolling around on the ground for a minute struggling to get up.

49ers currently lead the league in QB hits allowed with 94. So, on average, our QB is getting hit about 9 times per game. Contrast that with Oakland who has only allowed 27 hits so far, just a smidgen over 2 hits per game (they definitely didn't want to see Carr hurt again). We've got to figure out how to deal with that pressure.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Follower:

Just not impressed at all....

Grant Cohn is the least impressive "writer" in the Bay Area and it isn't even close. He's lucky his dad was a colossal prick that stuck around long enough to get his son a gig.

The cutest part is when he tries to talk X's and O's.....talk about not impressed.

But the latest article is seriously laugh out loud funny....."he's no longer a functional QB, he had to replace him" Talk about forcing a narrative.

Here's an interesting fact....we are actually taking less sacks this year then the past 3 seasons.

2014- 52 sacks on 539 pass plays = 9.6%
2015- 53 sacks on 579 pass plays = 9.2%
2016- 47 sacks on 538 pass plays = 8.7%
2017- 35 sacks on 466 pass plays = 7.5%

Pass plays totals are pass attempts plus sacks. Based our '17 averages a total season projection for us would be 51 sacks on 677 pass plays. So basically, having the same amount of sacks as our past 3 coaches despite calling 100+ more pass plays. Just look at past led Kyle offenses, he had a sack rate of 5.6% in '08 with Houston, a 6.9% in '12 with Washington and a 6.4% with Atlanta in '16.

Just as a baseline, our 1994 offense had a sack rate of 6.4%. '94 is usually my base line for all things encompassing a really great offense. If you want a modern example the Pats are currently at a 5.5% sack rate. The interesting thing now is to he how this number goes with Jimmy in and how it develops as the quality of the OL improves.

We've done a good job at making sure the QBs are coached to get the ball out quick and avoid sacks. We're just taking an astronomical amount of hits. I mean, if you recall, even though Hoyer got the ball out quick too, there were a number of times he got crushed too and was rolling around on the ground for a minute struggling to get up.

49ers currently lead the league in QB hits allowed with 94. So, on average, our QB is getting hit about 9 times per game. Contrast that with Oakland who has only allowed 27 hits so far, just a smidgen over 2 hits per game (they definitely didn't want to see Carr hurt again). We've got to figure out how to deal with that pressure.

This! Right here.

And on aside, we have two premier T's who combined, haven't given up many hits or sacks and are weekly graded at two of our highest performers.

This means the mass majority of these QB hits are due to the interior from individually poor play to incorrect line calls.

And if you noted the last two games, Kyle called a large number of quick screens, flares and other plays against the Giants that helped this major deficiency a ton (no sacks and only two hits = 300 yards and a W). Last game, Kyle, against a standard 4-man rush, had to leave Hyde, Juice, Celek and Kittle in for extreme max protect and BeatHard still got hit 15 times.

This interior may go down as one of the worst ever. Fusco seems to be getting better each week but any interior lineman would look better compared to Kilgore and Tomlinson.

It's too bad Magnuson got hurt before we could try him out at C or LG.

No doubt C and RG will be huge targets in FA and the draft and the FO better not count on Garnett.

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
Why don't you address what I'm asking you. Elaborate on your opinion past a broad statement with no context or basis. Hyde could easily eclipse a 1000 yards rushing. He's averaging over 4 yards a carry with very poor interior line play. He's also got over 300 yards receiving. What more do you want from the guy. He will put up much better statistics when our passing attack is a real threat. I believe if they can find a couple guys such as a Center and Gaurd it will be enough to greatly improve this offense. I'd prefer to leave wr be until that and our pass rush is addressed. You don't dump a top 10-15 type of RB with this many holes on the roster imo. What's yours?

Edit: Brown is one of the bright spots. He's very important to our success. He's our answer long term I believe.

His 300 yards receiving is on 49 targets. It's actually pretty pathetic numbers. 6 yards a catch. Todd Gurley goes for 11 a catch. Devonta Freeman went for 8.6 with Shanny last year.

Hyde is a good rb but holding but I still see him as a 80% fit for the offense who can be upgraded. He's not playing at a level that isn't replaceable. 4.2 ypr, 6 yards a catch. Shanny can get that in his sleep. It won't take a Barkley to move on from Hyde nor do we have 30 holes to fill where we can't afford a mid round pick on a back.

Shanahan is blowing it by starting Rop. Dude is going to be ruined by the time we have the pieces around him for him to be successful.