49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by GMniner805:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What reasons did you have to praise Jim Tomsula?

yep . you are right. i did not like the hire . i wanted gruden or an experienced coach. but i tried to have a open mind about him.. was very encouraged by the first game and then from there i learned how bad he was and the hire was. i jumped off the open mind ship after game three. thought the same thing about chip. turned out the same. so i took off the rose colored glasses and tried to look at this from an objective point of view. so far underwhelmed by him and lynch.. the jimmy trade was my highlight so far

I am hoping your track record is consistent.

This guy advocated for Jim Tomsula over Jim Harbaugh

lie. i am sure you did not do it on purpose. from day one i lobbied hard for gruden or cower. i felt with a vet team that was still a good team. we needed a vet coach. shocked with the jt hire. tried to have a open mind. last three games... i understand you must spin it to make yourself feel good but in this case you were wrong,.in regards to my statements, there sure as hell were people claiming we had the best front 7 in the nfl. we should not worry about the o line secondary playing poor or our inability to tackle in the pre season. cuz we are vanilla and not revealing secrets. lot of denial and deflection around here

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
My only criticism of Kyle is that I feel that he needs a bigger commitment to the run game. His scheme itself is brilliant, the best scheme we've had around here I think since Mooch. But I think his use of the run game could be better.

I honestly believe its because we cannot run consistently with the s**t o-line. The middle gets nuked 8 out of ten plays... better off trying to get a pass off.

For me, it's about the amount of runs and when Kyle decides to run. The later won't show in the stats, but I've noticed that Kyle gives up on the run way too often and too often don't go back to the run even when the running game is successful. And, he's running at very predictable, and disadvantageous time. I mean, I was literally calling run from my couch during times I could tell the defense was expecting it. And it's not like Carlos Hyde is having a bad season. See the clip below from 49ers.com:



Watching these games (some I re-watched) it just seems that Kyle don't value the run game as much as he should, or at least the emphasis of the run game is low. I think he view's the run game as more of a game finisher than a real feature of the offense. Carlos is having a decent season on pace to gain a 1,000 yards, but even when he's running well in games Kyle isn't giving him the ball more. To me, Kyle gives up on the run too often. I think he needs to run Carlos no less than 20 - 25 times a game. IMHO.

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
The problem is you are not looking at the situation objectively. You are looking at it pessimisticly. You then post broad statements with no real constructive criticism behind them. You then post things that insinuate other posters are delusional or idiotic for being optimistic in any way. You are just on a different side of the same coin. I'm tired of the same old nonsense. You are obviously here to discuss the 49ers. Why is it so hard to get you to elaborate on why Kyle is responsible for the state of the team. You refuse to acknowledge any of the context around why the team is where it's at. Call it excuses. I am trying to engage you and the other negative posters to get an actual conversation rather than broad statements that can go no where. What is the point to continue to post statements of your opinion if you won't elaborate?

we can not tackle and are poorly prepared to play multiple games,. that is on the coaching staff. the defense is bad,. poor tackling. playing people out of position. that is on coach. why is it so hard for you understand when you win one game. every assistant coach should be looking over his shoulder

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
he's been like that all offseason and season. nothing new

I know but it seems like the negative posters are starting to drown out even keelt and positive guys. I feel like this forum needs more positivity. We are going to lose people who have inciteful points of view otherwise. Trying to get to the root of their arguments. Otherwise if you just post negative statements and don't go any further I feel like the mods should consider that trolling. If that's truly your opinion you should have an argument to back up why you feel that way. I normally just sit back and read the comments because I don't get much football talk outside of the webzone.

talk about other posters much??

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by susweel:
Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Also the play action passes on third and 7+ when your o-line is getting mauled and your Qb has no time to throw the ball. Just doesn't make sense.

all i can hope for is while the line will stay the same for the year. maybe browns return will help. maybe jimmy being the qb will mask the problems we have with the line. just a band aid till hopefully fix it next year. of course the wide outs still must get open and catch the ball and hyde needs to run better. maybe its his fault or the lines fault. but there is just so much that needs to be addressed around jimmy for next year

Originally posted by cciowa:

all i can hope for is while the line will stay the same for the year. maybe browns return will help. maybe jimmy being the qb will mask the problems we have with the line. just a band aid till hopefully fix it next year. of course the wide outs still must get open and catch the ball and hyde needs to run better. maybe its his fault or the lines fault. but there is just so much that needs to be addressed around jimmy for next year

Why don't you address what I'm asking you. Elaborate on your opinion past a broad statement with no context or basis. Hyde could easily eclipse a 1000 yards rushing. He's averaging over 4 yards a carry with very poor interior line play. He's also got over 300 yards receiving. What more do you want from the guy. He will put up much better statistics when our passing attack is a real threat. I believe if they can find a couple guys such as a Center and Gaurd it will be enough to greatly improve this offense. I'd prefer to leave wr be until that and our pass rush is addressed. You don't dump a top 10-15 type of RB with this many holes on the roster imo. What's yours?

Edit: Brown is one of the bright spots. He's very important to our success. He's our answer long term I believe.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by susweel:

Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Also the play action passes on third and 7+ when your o-line is getting mauled and your Qb has no time to throw the ball. Just doesn't make sense.

all i can hope for is while the line will stay the same for the year. maybe browns return will help. maybe jimmy being the qb will mask the problems we have with the line. just a band aid till hopefully fix it next year. of course the wide outs still must get open and catch the ball and hyde needs to run better. maybe its his fault or the lines fault. but there is just so much that needs to be addressed around jimmy for next year

Maybe it's the line's fault?
LOL, come on

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
Why don't you address what I'm asking you. Elaborate on your opinion past a broad statement with no context or basis. Hyde could easily eclipse a 1000 yards rushing. He's averaging over 4 yards a carry with very poor interior line play. He's also got over 300 yards receiving. What more do you want from the guy. He will put up much better statistics when our passing attack is a real threat. I believe if they can find a couple guys such as a Center and Gaurd it will be enough to greatly improve this offense. I'd prefer to leave wr be until that and our pass rush is addressed. You don't dump a top 10-15 type of RB with this many holes on the roster imo. What's yours?

Edit: Brown is one of the bright spots. He's very important to our success. He's our answer long term I believe.

i am underwhelmed by him and am concerned he is playing well just cuz its a contract year. i have always said. i totally get those who say the want for a new running back is not as crucial as a need for other positions. i also have no confidence the rookie we drafted last year will come back. i think the team hopefully will find a nice back in fourth or fifth round. i believe the entire offensive line should be revamped. i get resigning hyde. i think he is not good in pass protection , gets hurt alot and dances alot but i get what you said considering our poor line

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Maybe it's the line's fault?
LOL, come on

i am just wary about hyde moving foward. no big deal.

Just not impressed at all....

Originally posted by cciowa:

i am underwhelmed by him and am concerned he is playing well just cuz its a contract year. i have always said. i totally get those who say the want for a new running back is not as crucial as a need for other positions. i also have no confidence the rookie we drafted last year will come back. i think the team hopefully will find a nice back in fourth or fifth round. i believe the entire offensive line should be revamped. i get resigning hyde. i think he is not good in pass protection , gets hurt alot and dances alot but i get what you said considering our poor line

We should start with the interior of the line first though, yeah? Center and a guard. Look to replace both guards and get a future guy to replace Staley if Brown isn't up to the task. I think Brown is going to develop into our future at LT. If not definitely RT. We got to hold on to Staley for another season or two so we can address Elephant as they say, Interior Line, WR, Corner opposite Witherspoon whom I think is gonna be solid for us,and the LB corps outside Foster. In that order to. I am sold on Hyde but can respect that you aren't based on his health issues and it's his contract year. My two cents or so.

Edit: I think we have a plethora of safeties. At least two to three should work out for us. I also am completely for drafting RB and QB if Kyle thinks there's a gem later in the draft.

You ain't stuntin like yo daddy

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
We should start with the interior of the line first though, yeah? Center and a guard. Look to replace both guards and get a future guy to replace Staley if Brown isn't up to the task. I think Brown is going to develop into our future at LT. If not definitely RT. We got to hold on to Staley for another season or two so we can address Elephant as they say, Interior Line, WR, Corner opposite Witherspoon whom I think is gonna be solid for us,and the LB corps outside Foster. In that order to. I am sold on Hyde but can respect that you aren't based on his health issues and it's his contract year. My two cents or so.

Edit: I think we have a plethora of safeties. At least two to three should work out for us. I also am completely for drafting RB and QB if Kyle thinks there's a gem later in the draft.

Agree ten fold about picking a running back and maybe a 6th rounder or 7th on a qb. i think we are in fine shape qb wise but a 7th on a qb would not be tragic. i also agree that brown is worth keeping as i got a bit carried away by a total revamp but i am just so upset by the line play.. and love him. but staley is near done. i get those who say keep him but at the very least lets draft a nice left tackle early along with center and guard..agree with you in regards to all linebackers but foster need to go . hope lynch turns our top pick into multiple picks and while a nice wide out would be nice.. i tell you that i would be fine if our first three picks were all offensive line. some may lose their minds but i would be fine

Is it me or is there a little less penalties as the season rolls on? Especially with rashard gone.

Originally posted by gold49digger:

Is it me or is there a little less penalties as the season rolls on? Especially with rashard gone.

Yes, they have gone down from 8 per game at the end of September to 7.7 per game right now and they have averaged 7 per game over the past three.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game?date=2017-11-30