49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by bvc49:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by ChazBoner:
Relax guys, he's saving the good plays/schemes for next season. Just like that time AA saved all his pass rush moves for the regular season.

remember in the pre season when we sucked..
the secondary will be better
the on line will be better
the defense will be better
we will unleash the hoyer offense beast
we will tackle better when the regular season starts
we have the best front 7 in football and we are vanilla for a reason
i understand we have the injury excuses and the young players excuses and the fans who are not really fans cuz they are upset we have one win excuses

I love it when they say we are saving plays for the regular season. And then regular season comes and we run the wrong routes, drop balls, get penalized and settle for field goals instead of TDs.
Practice makes perfect.

Hmmm, I don't actually remember anyone saying any of those things. People who were paying attention always knew this season was going to be a challenge and were just hoping to see some signs of improvement, which I think there clearly have been. Seems to me that this season was about evaluating the roster under game conditions and making decisions about what guys on the team were gong to be part of the future and what guys weren't. Shanahan and Lynch have been ruthless about getting rid of guys that they don't believe will be part of that future, The offense has shown plenty of indications that it is heading in the right direction and the defense is starting to flash a bit as well. Injuries and inexperience, on all levels, have hampered the process a bit but it seems to me that there is a lot to be encouraged about. Got to see a glimpse of Jimmy G yesterday and certainly that is a situation that looks like it has some potential.

While I will continue to root for the team to win every Sunday I am honestly not concerned at all about their record this year. They still need some key pieces to help pull this thing together and it seems to me that finishing near the bottom of the standings could have some benefits in terms of the draft. If the pick is high enough there is always a chance they can parlay that into some additional picks which would give them some more flexibility. But then of course they will have to deliver on those picks. Foster, Witherspoon, Brieda, Beathard, Colbert, Kittle , Taylor, Magnuson, and Solomon all seem to be guys that can play in this league at least at some level. That's not a bad start for your first draft. They were somewhat less successful in their free agent acquisitions but all of those guys were brought in for a reason and when they didn't work out they got rid of them. Garcon was certainly worth the investment and Goodwin, Mitchell and Juszczyk have certainly flashed. Even Fusco has had some games where he has been graded out pretty well by PFF, for whatever that is worth. Hopefully they can get through the rest of the year without any major injuries and continue to lay the groundwork for 2018, where I think the stakes will be a bit higher and the expectations a bit more justified.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What reasons did you have to praise Jim Tomsula?

yep . you are right. i did not like the hire . i wanted gruden or an experienced coach. but i tried to have a open mind about him.. was very encouraged by the first game and then from there i learned how bad he was and the hire was. i jumped off the open mind ship after game three. thought the same thing about chip. turned out the same. so i took off the rose colored glasses and tried to look at this from an objective point of view. so far underwhelmed by him and lynch.. the jimmy trade was my highlight so far

I am hoping your track record is consistent.

This guy advocated for Jim Tomsula over Jim Harbaugh

Originally posted by susweel:

Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by susweel:

Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Also the play action passes on third and 7+ when your o-line is getting mauled and your Qb has no time to throw the ball. Just doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

What reasons did you have to praise Jim Tomsula?

yep . you are right. i did not like the hire . i wanted gruden or an experienced coach. but i tried to have a open mind about him.. was very encouraged by the first game and then from there i learned how bad he was and the hire was. i jumped off the open mind ship after game three. thought the same thing about chip. turned out the same. so i took off the rose colored glasses and tried to look at this from an objective point of view. so far underwhelmed by him and lynch.. the jimmy trade was my highlight so far

The problem is you are not looking at the situation objectively. You are looking at it pessimisticly. You then post broad statements with no real constructive criticism behind them. You then post things that insinuate other posters are delusional or idiotic for being optimistic in any way. You are just on a different side of the same coin. I'm tired of the same old nonsense. You are obviously here to discuss the 49ers. Why is it so hard to get you to elaborate on why Kyle is responsible for the state of the team. You refuse to acknowledge any of the context around why the team is where it's at. Call it excuses. I am trying to engage you and the other negative posters to get an actual conversation rather than broad statements that can go no where. What is the point to continue to post statements of your opinion if you won't elaborate?

Originally posted by jvangeystel:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
What reasons did you have to praise Jim Tomsula?

yep . you are right. i did not like the hire . i wanted gruden or an experienced coach. but i tried to have a open mind about him.. was very encouraged by the first game and then from there i learned how bad he was and the hire was. i jumped off the open mind ship after game three. thought the same thing about chip. turned out the same. so i took off the rose colored glasses and tried to look at this from an objective point of view. so far underwhelmed by him and lynch.. the jimmy trade was my highlight so far

The problem is you are not looking at the situation objectively. You are looking at it pessimisticly. You then post broad statements with no real constructive criticism behind them. You then post things that insinuate other posters are delusional or idiotic for being optimistic in any way. You are just on a different side of the same coin. I'm tired of the same old nonsense. You are obviously here to discuss the 49ers. Why is it so hard to get you to elaborate on why Kyle is responsible for the state of the team. You refuse to acknowledge any of the context around why the team is where it's at. Call it excuses. I am trying to engage you and the other negative posters to get an actual conversation rather than broad statements that can go no where. What is the point to continue to post statements of your opinion if you won't elaborate?

he's been like that all offseason and season. nothing new

Originally posted by defenderDX:

he's been like that all offseason and season. nothing new

I know but it seems like the negative posters are starting to drown out even keelt and positive guys. I feel like this forum needs more positivity. We are going to lose people who have inciteful points of view otherwise. Trying to get to the root of their arguments. Otherwise if you just post negative statements and don't go any further I feel like the mods should consider that trolling. If that's truly your opinion you should have an argument to back up why you feel that way. I normally just sit back and read the comments because I don't get much football talk outside of the webzone.

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by susweel:
Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Also the play action passes on third and 7+ when your o-line is getting mauled and your Qb has no time to throw the ball. Just doesn't make sense.

Kyle is on Team Tank.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by Lutch57:

Originally posted by susweel:

Two weeks to prepare and thats the best he could come up with. The same play action plays over and over, the seahawks were prolly laughing at him.

2nd and 5, we run a screen play thrown 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage. 3rd and three were tossing it deep. The play calling is baffling at times and it's been almost every week like this.

Also the play action passes on third and 7+ when your o-line is getting mauled and your Qb has no time to throw the ball. Just doesn't make sense.

Kyle is on Team Tank.

The playaction passes may be because Cj is better rolling outside the pocket than staying in. I'm not sure. We'll have to see what he does with Jimmy g I guess. Did he do that on Atlanta? Also the screen thing is kind of hit and miss. If it works he's a genius if it doesn't he's a moron. Does he do a lot of screens? Hasn't really jumped out of the screen to me.

Yeah, Hawks defense had the naked bootlegs defended to a science and you can't stretch run against a speed defense on wet grass. First try Hawks has 6 defenders in the backfield for a 3 yard loss.

It was nice to see Kyle switch to inside zone. We found success there. Passing game against Seattle is always the same...dink and dunk and take what they give you. Patience. Play action, take your shots. Lateral action.

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
I know but it seems like the negative posters are starting to drown out even keelt and positive guys. I feel like this forum needs more positivity. We are going to lose people who have inciteful points of view otherwise. Trying to get to the root of their arguments. Otherwise if you just post negative statements and don't go any further I feel like the mods should consider that trolling. If that's truly your opinion you should have an argument to back up why you feel that way. I normally just sit back and read the comments because I don't get much football talk outside of the webzone.

We do have a hide post feature. Click on the username, select hide posts and you never have to see posts from that person again. Based on the list of most blocked posters, quite a few users have been taking advantage of that feature.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
I know but it seems like the negative posters are starting to drown out even keelt and positive guys. I feel like this forum needs more positivity. We are going to lose people who have inciteful points of view otherwise. Trying to get to the root of their arguments. Otherwise if you just post negative statements and don't go any further I feel like the mods should consider that trolling. If that's truly your opinion you should have an argument to back up why you feel that way. I normally just sit back and read the comments because I don't get much football talk outside of the webzone.

We do have a hide post feature. Click on the username, select hide posts and you never have to see posts from that person again. Based on the list of most blocked posters, quite a few users have been taking advantage of that feature.

shouldn't have to be that way

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jvangeystel:
I know but it seems like the negative posters are starting to drown out even keelt and positive guys. I feel like this forum needs more positivity. We are going to lose people who have inciteful points of view otherwise. Trying to get to the root of their arguments. Otherwise if you just post negative statements and don't go any further I feel like the mods should consider that trolling. If that's truly your opinion you should have an argument to back up why you feel that way. I normally just sit back and read the comments because I don't get much football talk outside of the webzone.

We do have a hide post feature. Click on the username, select hide posts and you never have to see posts from that person again. Based on the list of most blocked posters, quite a few users have been taking advantage of that feature.

shouldn't have to be that way

since good posters are not posting due to some other posters.. there might be nothing to read if you blocked people

I think as a play caller he is really good. As a head coach I have not seen him take strides. No half time adjustments on Offense or defense.

What time is Shanny's presser at?