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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Isosceles:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The NFL has so many rules now that it's not surprising that everyone doesn't know them all. Even the officials get confused. It gets even worse when they use differfent rules for the playoffs. Now they use instant replay to determine the outcome of so many plays that it make the games drag out even longer.
This. It takes joy out of watching games.

I'll admit i'm a fan of the instant replay where they make the bad call good pretty quickly. No dragging out, no commercial breaks....just bam change the play on the field and keep it moving. I've noticed it more and more

Do they really need to review every TD? Even obvious ones. It usually only takes 30 seconds or so but why do it at all? I'm also tired of reviewing so many receptions to see if the ball "wiggled" a little as he hits the ground or stepped out of bounds. If it looks like a catch then it's a catch. It all evens out in the end. They played football for years without replay and it was fine. Yes there were controversial plays but we still have that now. Even after the replays they don't always see the play the way fans do.

Replay was fine when it was first introduced. It was only used for certain plays. Unforunately, like so many things the league keeps expanding the use thinking more is better. I suppose eventually they'll review the coin toss to make sure the official tossed it up the proper way.

Oh this here post made me laugh Catch!
For me though, since they done brung all this replay stuff in, I can live with it, even the lengthiness of it all.
We've all clearly seen when catches were not catches.
But before the replay, how long has this been going on?
There's probably Super Bowls that have been won on catches that were not catches.
And I'm sure all the No-catch'erees out there STILL basking in their glory know which ones were not too!

My point is that all the replays haven't made the games better. Before replays fans accepted that calls would be missed. They still are even with replay but now we have more time for commercials during the replays. Fans on this forum are always screaming about the officials missing a holding call of a PI. Are they going to start reviewing every play to make sure nothing is missed?

Those catch replays that show the ball clearly touching the ground are one thing but the little tiny wiggles are BS. The ones that clearlyshow the ball hitting th ground are often obvious even at live speed. The officials are now relying too much on replays making the calls for them.

I think if they can ensure they get things right as much as possible it's a win for the sport. Hard to take the refs out of it unless we find a way to get AI refs out there but if you can watch a replay and see the call was wrong on the field...i'm all for it.

It's not like these reviews are like the coaches challenges which take a long time sometimes. These are done pretty quickly.

Those replays are likely to hurt your team as often as the help your team. I just think many of them are too nit picky. Anyway it's not going to change so I guess I have to live with it. If anything they'll continue to use it more often. I think sports now exist just so companies can advertise their stuff. Commercials take more of the 3 1/2 hours it takes to complete a game than the acton does. Not even close.

I understand it goes both ways and honestly as much as it would suck I'd rather it be called correctly. This way you know if you get beat clean or if you win clean.

We still got a chance.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

We still got a chance.

Same odds as the 1-5 Ravens is wild. In fact, the 1-5 Ravens still having higher odds than the Steelers is VERY wild.
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Oct 15, 2025 at 4:22 PM ]
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

We still got a chance.

Same odds as the 1-5 Ravens is wild. In fact, the 1-5 Ravens still having higher odds than the Steelers is VERY wild.

I mean there's still more than half a season to go and Lamar most likely comes back soon. Also the Steelers have had lots of mid season collapse to where they missed the playoffs after great to decent starts. Hell even the Rams last year was 1-4 to start the season and they almost beat the eventual Super Bowl champs in the playoffs.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Oct 15, 2025 at 4:29 PM ]
Much better odds than the Shags who beat us and even better than Atlanta who beat Bills with the best odds Too rich for me

After we beat Falcons, we'll probably be close to five (odds) or better again...
Lol very mid from KC so far and they are still favored that high. Kermit time is over. And I am glad.


Originally posted by pillageDatazz:



That's cool as hell. Every dads dream, pass what you know down to your boy.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

We still got a chance.

Same odds as the 1-5 Ravens is wild. In fact, the 1-5 Ravens still having higher odds than the Steelers is VERY wild.

I mean there's still more than half a season to go and Lamar most likely comes back soon. Also the Steelers have had lots of mid season collapse to where they missed the playoffs after great to decent starts. Hell even the Rams last year was 1-4 to start the season and they almost beat the eventual Super Bowl champs in the playoffs.

Meh. We're familiar with "almost" it's not a very meaningful word.

But if we're going to play this game… what was our Super Bowl odds after starting 3-5 (and 3-4 in the NFC) in 2021?
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Meh. We're familiar with "almost" it's not a very meaningful word.

But if we're going to play this game… what was our Super Bowl odds after starting 3-5 (and 3-4 in the NFC) in 2021?

Or 3-4 and the next game against the Rams at Sofi in 2022?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Isosceles:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The NFL has so many rules now that it's not surprising that everyone doesn't know them all. Even the officials get confused. It gets even worse when they use differfent rules for the playoffs. Now they use instant replay to determine the outcome of so many plays that it make the games drag out even longer.
This. It takes joy out of watching games.

I'll admit i'm a fan of the instant replay where they make the bad call good pretty quickly. No dragging out, no commercial breaks....just bam change the play on the field and keep it moving. I've noticed it more and more

Do they really need to review every TD? Even obvious ones. It usually only takes 30 seconds or so but why do it at all? I'm also tired of reviewing so many receptions to see if the ball "wiggled" a little as he hits the ground or stepped out of bounds. If it looks like a catch then it's a catch. It all evens out in the end. They played football for years without replay and it was fine. Yes there were controversial plays but we still have that now. Even after the replays they don't always see the play the way fans do.

Replay was fine when it was first introduced. It was only used for certain plays. Unforunately, like so many things the league keeps expanding the use thinking more is better. I suppose eventually they'll review the coin toss to make sure the official tossed it up the proper way.

Oh this here post made me laugh Catch!
For me though, since they done brung all this replay stuff in, I can live with it, even the lengthiness of it all.
We've all clearly seen when catches were not catches.
But before the replay, how long has this been going on?
There's probably Super Bowls that have been won on catches that were not catches.
And I'm sure all the No-catch'erees out there STILL basking in their glory know which ones were not too!

My point is that all the replays haven't made the games better. Before replays fans accepted that calls would be missed. They still are even with replay but now we have more time for commercials during the replays. Fans on this forum are always screaming about the officials missing a holding call of a PI. Are they going to start reviewing every play to make sure nothing is missed?

Those catch replays that show the ball clearly touching the ground are one thing but the little tiny wiggles are BS. The ones that clearlyshow the ball hitting th ground are often obvious even at live speed. The officials are now relying too much on replays making the calls for them.

I think if they can ensure they get things right as much as possible it's a win for the sport. Hard to take the refs out of it unless we find a way to get AI refs out there but if you can watch a replay and see the call was wrong on the field...i'm all for it.

It's not like these reviews are like the coaches challenges which take a long time sometimes. These are done pretty quickly.

Those replays are likely to hurt your team as often as the help your team. I just think many of them are too nit picky. Anyway it's not going to change so I guess I have to live with it. If anything they'll continue to use it more often. I think sports now exist just so companies can advertise their stuff. Commercials take more of the 3 1/2 hours it takes to complete a game than the acton does. Not even close.

I understand it goes both ways and honestly as much as it would suck I'd rather it be called correctly. This way you know if you get beat clean or if you win clean.

That makes sense but we still see fans complaining nearly every week that the refs suck and they miss this or that. It hasn't changed that part of the game. Even with the replays they don't always get it right. I dson't know what kind of monitors they use but I've seen several of those replays where I can see the ball on the ground or a foot on the line and they still get the call wrong.

Like I said I know they aren't going to cut back on ther number. If anything they'll add even more.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Isosceles:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The NFL has so many rules now that it's not surprising that everyone doesn't know them all. Even the officials get confused. It gets even worse when they use differfent rules for the playoffs. Now they use instant replay to determine the outcome of so many plays that it make the games drag out even longer.
This. It takes joy out of watching games.

I'll admit i'm a fan of the instant replay where they make the bad call good pretty quickly. No dragging out, no commercial breaks....just bam change the play on the field and keep it moving. I've noticed it more and more

Do they really need to review every TD? Even obvious ones. It usually only takes 30 seconds or so but why do it at all? I'm also tired of reviewing so many receptions to see if the ball "wiggled" a little as he hits the ground or stepped out of bounds. If it looks like a catch then it's a catch. It all evens out in the end. They played football for years without replay and it was fine. Yes there were controversial plays but we still have that now. Even after the replays they don't always see the play the way fans do.

Replay was fine when it was first introduced. It was only used for certain plays. Unforunately, like so many things the league keeps expanding the use thinking more is better. I suppose eventually they'll review the coin toss to make sure the official tossed it up the proper way.

Oh this here post made me laugh Catch!
For me though, since they done brung all this replay stuff in, I can live with it, even the lengthiness of it all.
We've all clearly seen when catches were not catches.
But before the replay, how long has this been going on?
There's probably Super Bowls that have been won on catches that were not catches.
And I'm sure all the No-catch'erees out there STILL basking in their glory know which ones were not too!

My point is that all the replays haven't made the games better. Before replays fans accepted that calls would be missed. They still are even with replay but now we have more time for commercials during the replays. Fans on this forum are always screaming about the officials missing a holding call of a PI. Are they going to start reviewing every play to make sure nothing is missed?

Those catch replays that show the ball clearly touching the ground are one thing but the little tiny wiggles are BS. The ones that clearlyshow the ball hitting th ground are often obvious even at live speed. The officials are now relying too much on replays making the calls for them.

I think if they can ensure they get things right as much as possible it's a win for the sport. Hard to take the refs out of it unless we find a way to get AI refs out there but if you can watch a replay and see the call was wrong on the field...i'm all for it.

It's not like these reviews are like the coaches challenges which take a long time sometimes. These are done pretty quickly.

Those replays are likely to hurt your team as often as the help your team. I just think many of them are too nit picky. Anyway it's not going to change so I guess I have to live with it. If anything they'll continue to use it more often. I think sports now exist just so companies can advertise their stuff. Commercials take more of the 3 1/2 hours it takes to complete a game than the acton does. Not even close.

I understand it goes both ways and honestly as much as it would suck I'd rather it be called correctly. This way you know if you get beat clean or if you win clean.

That makes sense but we still see fans complaining nearly every week that the refs suck and they miss this or that. It hasn't changed that part of the game. Even with the replays they don't always get it right. I dson't know what kind of monitors they use but I've seen several of those replays where I can see the ball on the ground or a foot on the line and they still get the call wrong.

Like I said I know they aren't going to cut back on ther number. If anything they'll add even more.

The problem is there's still a lot of subjective BS that isn't reviewable. Like holding? You could argue every other play is holding if you really look closely enough. Or pass interference. They made it reviewable for one season recently and it was a complete mess. As long as there are non-reviewable subjective calls, there will be complaints, and you could argue there's a penalty on every single play.

It's like my wife complaining that I didn't do the dishes even though I did!
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Isosceles:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The NFL has so many rules now that it's not surprising that everyone doesn't know them all. Even the officials get confused. It gets even worse when they use differfent rules for the playoffs. Now they use instant replay to determine the outcome of so many plays that it make the games drag out even longer.
This. It takes joy out of watching games.

I'll admit i'm a fan of the instant replay where they make the bad call good pretty quickly. No dragging out, no commercial breaks....just bam change the play on the field and keep it moving. I've noticed it more and more

Do they really need to review every TD? Even obvious ones. It usually only takes 30 seconds or so but why do it at all? I'm also tired of reviewing so many receptions to see if the ball "wiggled" a little as he hits the ground or stepped out of bounds. If it looks like a catch then it's a catch. It all evens out in the end. They played football for years without replay and it was fine. Yes there were controversial plays but we still have that now. Even after the replays they don't always see the play the way fans do.

Replay was fine when it was first introduced. It was only used for certain plays. Unforunately, like so many things the league keeps expanding the use thinking more is better. I suppose eventually they'll review the coin toss to make sure the official tossed it up the proper way.

Oh this here post made me laugh Catch!
For me though, since they done brung all this replay stuff in, I can live with it, even the lengthiness of it all.
We've all clearly seen when catches were not catches.
But before the replay, how long has this been going on?
There's probably Super Bowls that have been won on catches that were not catches.
And I'm sure all the No-catch'erees out there STILL basking in their glory know which ones were not too!

My point is that all the replays haven't made the games better. Before replays fans accepted that calls would be missed. They still are even with replay but now we have more time for commercials during the replays. Fans on this forum are always screaming about the officials missing a holding call of a PI. Are they going to start reviewing every play to make sure nothing is missed?

Those catch replays that show the ball clearly touching the ground are one thing but the little tiny wiggles are BS. The ones that clearlyshow the ball hitting th ground are often obvious even at live speed. The officials are now relying too much on replays making the calls for them.

I think if they can ensure they get things right as much as possible it's a win for the sport. Hard to take the refs out of it unless we find a way to get AI refs out there but if you can watch a replay and see the call was wrong on the field...i'm all for it.

It's not like these reviews are like the coaches challenges which take a long time sometimes. These are done pretty quickly.

Those replays are likely to hurt your team as often as the help your team. I just think many of them are too nit picky. Anyway it's not going to change so I guess I have to live with it. If anything they'll continue to use it more often. I think sports now exist just so companies can advertise their stuff. Commercials take more of the 3 1/2 hours it takes to complete a game than the acton does. Not even close.

I understand it goes both ways and honestly as much as it would suck I'd rather it be called correctly. This way you know if you get beat clean or if you win clean.

That makes sense but we still see fans complaining nearly every week that the refs suck and they miss this or that. It hasn't changed that part of the game. Even with the replays they don't always get it right. I dson't know what kind of monitors they use but I've seen several of those replays where I can see the ball on the ground or a foot on the line and they still get the call wrong.

Like I said I know they aren't going to cut back on ther number. If anything they'll add even more.

The problem is there's still a lot of subjective BS that isn't reviewable. Like holding? You could argue every other play is holding if you really look closely enough. Or pass interference. They made it reviewable for one season recently and it was a complete mess. As long as there are non-reviewable subjective calls, there will be complaints, and you could argue there's a penalty on every single play.

It's like my wife complaining that I didn't do the dishes even though I did!

I agree. Every time they introduce a new rule it just makes it harder for the officials. So many penalties involve subjective calls Other than false starts, hands to the face and off sides most are subjective. You mentoned holding and PI. I don't even know what PI is anymore. The allow hand fighting all the way down the field now and then at a critical time they'll decide to throw a flag.

Illegal blocks are often close calls. Same for helmet to helmet contact. Is it incidental or was it intentional. They don't seem to differentiate. When a tackler moves in to make a play his head is almost always going to be leading and it's easy for some contact to happen. Shouldn't be a 15 yard penalty. Like the difference between running into the kicker and roughing.

I think the officials do a pretty good job as a whole when you consider the speed of the game and the size of the players. They can't see everything that happens . Their view can be blocked or they can be looking at a different player when a foul is being committed. We see everything from an elevated view so it's easier to see fouls. We see replays and slow motion after every play. They can't do that for the officials.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:



That's cool as hell. Every dads dream, pass what you know down to your boy.

If only Kyle could win SBs like dad
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by pillageDatazz:



That's cool as hell. Every dads dream, pass what you know down to your boy.

If only Kyle could win SBs like dad

Not to make excuses for Kyle or knock on Purdy, but:

Mike couldn't win a Super Bowl without John Elway

Reid could never win a Super Bowl until Patrick Mahomes came along

Belichick has been very, very meh ever since Brady left

See the pattern? Again, not knocking Purdy. Maybe slightly knocking Jimmy G even though I appreciate what he did for us. Just that these coaches all only won when they had a clear and distinct advantage.
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