49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
if we SWAP coaches next year, and both teams stays healthy... 100% sure that we will beat Shanny's Bills in the Super Bowl next year !! IF they CAN get to Super Bowl !!

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
You had to show this video??!! STILL pissed about the penalty being called on Brooks getting this sack.

I was not as mad about the call as i was the NFL said it was the correct call.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Looking more like McDermott's got a better chance this year at breaking the SB streak than shanahan.

The question is who will win a SB first or get fired first for going without one.

if we SWAP coaches next year, and both teams stays healthy... 100% sure that we will beat Shanny's Bills in the Super Bowl next year !! IF they CAN get to Super Bowl !!

If you "swap" spit with a transgender, cuz blood, you gon win, 9moon you gon win

Originally posted by 49ers9797:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Looking more like McDermott's got a better chance this year at breaking the SB streak than shanahan.

The question is who will win a SB first or get fired first for going without one.

He is a defensive HC whose defense has consistently been shredded in the postseason. Drafting and schemes are poor. He has a generational type QB and has not even been to a SB. Shanahan has at least been to two SB's. And they were certainly not of a Josh Allen caliber.

I believe Buffalo gets a new HC (fires him) after this season. And they win one within three years.

So...McDermott gets fired first. But Buffalo wins a SB first. Shanahan is here for at least three more years. Unless, they go 0-17 or 1-16. Something crazy and unrealistic.

So...McDermott gets fired first for not winning one to answer your question.

Kyle has back to back losing seasons and he'll be on the hot seat next year

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by 49ers9797:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Looking more like McDermott's got a better chance this year at breaking the SB streak than shanahan.

The question is who will win a SB first or get fired first for going without one.

He is a defensive HC whose defense has consistently been shredded in the postseason. Drafting and schemes are poor. He has a generational type QB and has not even been to a SB. Shanahan has at least been to two SB's. And they were certainly not of a Josh Allen caliber.

I believe Buffalo gets a new HC (fires him) after this season. And they win one within three years.

So...McDermott gets fired first. But Buffalo wins a SB first. Shanahan is here for at least three more years. Unless, they go 0-17 or 1-16. Something crazy and unrealistic.

So...McDermott gets fired first for not winning one to answer your question.

Kyle has back to back losing seasons and he'll be on the hot seat next year

Do you see this team going worse than 5-6 the rest of the way? Because 5-6 gets us to a winning record. Genuinely asking because idk. I don't think any outcome would surprise me at this point.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jrlarceo:
This team has to just change its mindset to trying to outscore its opponents... Pressure situational defense won't be there but Shann has the scheme to score... if he wants to get aggressive..which he needs to.. theyll need to be up on the scoreboard early to win games so the defense can make mistakes..

I disagree, i think outscoring our opponents is definitely a strategy to keep in place.

Lol John Madden take right there

The main problem I see with Kyle's scheme is if 1 person throws a wrench into the play and messes up, the play becomes abysmal. Now with Brock's mobility he can sometimes net positive yards, but our current OLine is messing up. When things are cooking, Kyle can get to 30-35 pts easily (I know it hasn't happened yet) if the team is at full strength.

It's a miracle a guy like Bourne has reached 140 rec yards the past 2 games. That shows you that the scheme works. Nobody fears a guy like Bourne at the level of Megatron where he can physically outjump you, is faster than you, etc. But he produces all the same becuase of this scheme. It's the main reason we're 4-2 despite how bad this OLine is. I'm officially happy Brock is returning because of his mobility. Mac was great when the blocking was there, but we see what happens if the OLine has a bad day.

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
SB 54-People bring up the Sanders play. But...if he scores a TD, there is over a minute left. Would Kyle, knowing his D was gassed, tell them in advance to go down near the goal line if there is say 90 seconds or so left? But it should have never came to that. I watched the game and was annoyed they stopped running it when they were getting decent yardage on each carry. Unless your QB is elite, you don't allow them to go airing it out.

SB 58-I have a few issues. Not kicking to KC in OT. Doing so allows you to know what is needed on the next offensive possession. It's decreases the likelihood of them using all four downs. Some might say the D is gassed. Well, they were still gassed and it didn't make a difference when KC got the ball. I still believe they did not know that playoff OT differed from the regular season. I can guarantee you that Reid, McVay, Belichick all kick off there.

I'm sorry but this is straight nonsense. This is no different than people who claimed we drafted Solomon Thomas cuz he took a class with Lynch. Just pure delusion and insanity.

EVERY player and coach who has ever worked with Shanahan talks about Kyle's attention to detail. Taking the insane logic leap that he somehow didn't know a major rule changed happened in a season where we were SB favorites vs simply not spending extra time on it preparing for a possibility that may not happen is just nonsense.

First of all we also had players saying Kyle brought it up to them before, whether they were covering up for him or not doesn't change the fact that he knew the rules and made the decision based on how THAT game went. I'm not even going to get into it again since we talked about it for 100s of pages during the offseason but what you can't guarantee is what other coaches would've done because they weren't there.

The goals didn't change - score TD on your drive, stop the other team. At worst players would look stupid celebrating if we scored the opening drive TD.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jrlarceo:
This team has to just change its mindset to trying to outscore its opponents... Pressure situational defense won't be there but Shann has the scheme to score... if he wants to get aggressive..which he needs to.. theyll need to be up on the scoreboard early to win games so the defense can make mistakes..

I disagree, i think outscoring our opponents is definitely a strategy to keep in place.

Lol John Madden take right there

The main problem I see with Kyle's scheme is if 1 person throws a wrench into the play and messes up, the play becomes abysmal. Now with Brock's mobility he can sometimes net positive yards, but our current OLine is messing up. When things are cooking, Kyle can get to 30-35 pts easily (I know it hasn't happened yet) if the team is at full strength.

It's a miracle a guy like Bourne has reached 140 rec yards the past 2 games. That shows you that the scheme works. Nobody fears a guy like Bourne at the level of Megatron where he can physically outjump you, is faster than you, etc. But he produces all the same becuase of this scheme. It's the main reason we're 4-2 despite how bad this OLine is. I'm officially happy Brock is returning because of his mobility. Mac was great when the blocking was there, but we see what happens if the OLine has a bad day.

I hear you. It's frustrating how we know this offense can look great but all it takes is one little mistake for everything to fall apart. Meanwhile I watch Red Zone on Sundays and see teams just casually turn broken plays into first downs or even touchdowns every week. The only recent time I can think of that happening for us was Purdy's game-winning TD in Week 1.

It's really a microcosm of the entire Shanahan/Lynch regime. So good and fun to watch when things are working. But one mistake and bam the season's over no Super Bowl win

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Drew Brees' Top-5 teams after Week 6:

1. Buccaneers
2. Colts
3. 49ers
4. Lions
5. Patriots

"Even though they just lost to the Buccaneers, that was a close game. I like the way Mac Jones is playing. I think they got something going." pic.twitter.com/xcd9AGpBdH

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) October 14, 2025

Drew Brees still likes us even after this:

Why wouldn't he like us after that one? He got a bogus call that probably cost us a SB...not that I'm still bitter about that. Not at all...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
SB 54-People bring up the Sanders play. But...if he scores a TD, there is over a minute left. Would Kyle, knowing his D was gassed, tell them in advance to go down near the goal line if there is say 90 seconds or so left? But it should have never came to that. I watched the game and was annoyed they stopped running it when they were getting decent yardage on each carry. Unless your QB is elite, you don't allow them to go airing it out.

SB 58-I have a few issues. Not kicking to KC in OT. Doing so allows you to know what is needed on the next offensive possession. It's decreases the likelihood of them using all four downs. Some might say the D is gassed. Well, they were still gassed and it didn't make a difference when KC got the ball. I still believe they did not know that playoff OT differed from the regular season. I can guarantee you that Reid, McVay, Belichick all kick off there.

I'm sorry but this is straight nonsense. This is no different than people who claimed we drafted Solomon Thomas cuz he took a class with Lynch. Just pure delusion and insanity.

EVERY player and coach who has ever worked with Shanahan talks about Kyle's attention to detail. Taking the insane logic leap that he somehow didn't know a major rule changed happened in a season where we were SB favorites vs simply not spending extra time on it preparing for a possibility that may not happen is just nonsense.

First of all we also had players saying Kyle brought it up to them before, whether they were covering up for him or not doesn't change the fact that he knew the rules and made the decision based on how THAT game went. I'm not even going to get into it again since we talked about it for 100s of pages during the offseason but what you can't guarantee is what other coaches would've done because they weren't there.

The goals didn't change - score TD on your drive, stop the other team. At worst players would look stupid celebrating if we scored the opening drive TD.

Didn't Armstead and Juice admit after the Super Bowl that they didn't know, though (or at least didn't know until right before OT started)?

I'm sure Kyle knew the new OT rules before deciding to receive the ball first. It wasn't a good decision with the 20/20 version of hindsight (you make a decision and lose, you simply wonder if the alternative would've led to something different), but at the time he was well-aware of the rules. He just figured a) we could score a TD and force the Chiefs to have to tie just to get to sudden death or go for 2 and b) defense needed some rest.

But Armstead/Juice saying they didn't know in advance is just one of those things that's optically embarrassing and extra salt in the wound, even if it didn't actually make a difference. It shows we weren't as prepared for all possible scenarios as we should've been, for one of the biggest games in franchise history.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Drew Brees' Top-5 teams after Week 6:

1. Buccaneers
2. Colts
3. 49ers
4. Lions
5. Patriots

"Even though they just lost to the Buccaneers, that was a close game. I like the way Mac Jones is playing. I think they got something going." pic.twitter.com/xcd9AGpBdH

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) October 14, 2025

Drew Brees still likes us even after this:

Why wouldn't he like us after that one? He got a bogus call that probably cost us a SB...not that I'm still bitter about that. Not at all...

Yeah if anything it's the magical playoff game that still bothers him lol. He even admitted YEARS after that game (like 2014-2015?) that it still bothered him IIRC.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Didn't Armstead and Juice admit after the Super Bowl that they didn't know, though (or at least didn't know until right before OT started)?

I'm sure Kyle knew the new OT rules before deciding to receive the ball first. It wasn't a good decision with the 20/20 version of hindsight (you make a decision and lose, you simply wonder if the alternative would've led to something different), but at the time he was well-aware of the rules. He just figured a) we could score a TD and force the Chiefs to have to tie just to get to sudden death or go for 2 and b) defense needed some rest.

But Armstead/Juice saying they didn't know in advance is just one of those things that's optically embarrassing and extra salt in the wound, even if it didn't actually make a difference. It shows we weren't as prepared for all possible scenarios as we should've been, for one of the biggest games in franchise history.

Don't recall about Armstead but Juice definitely didn't know. Which to me just means Kyle didn't make it a point of emphasis going into the game and I don't have an issue with it. Only one SB has ever gone to OT before. With all the crap we had to prep for and the issues we had I don't have an issue with Kyle not having a whole meeting about something that may not happen.

Obviously we're in hindsight territory like you said so it's easy to say we should've done it the other way but using hindsight we still could've easily won the game. Both in scoring that TD to open OT if Burford blocks his assignment or if we stop KC on the 4th down attempt.

Facts in that game was our defense was gassed. Their offense hasn't been able to score a TD without a short field in 6 quarters of football.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Didn't Armstead and Juice admit after the Super Bowl that they didn't know, though (or at least didn't know until right before OT started)?

I'm sure Kyle knew the new OT rules before deciding to receive the ball first. It wasn't a good decision with the 20/20 version of hindsight (you make a decision and lose, you simply wonder if the alternative would've led to something different), but at the time he was well-aware of the rules. He just figured a) we could score a TD and force the Chiefs to have to tie just to get to sudden death or go for 2 and b) defense needed some rest.

But Armstead/Juice saying they didn't know in advance is just one of those things that's optically embarrassing and extra salt in the wound, even if it didn't actually make a difference. It shows we weren't as prepared for all possible scenarios as we should've been, for one of the biggest games in franchise history.

Don't recall about Armstead but Juice definitely didn't know. Which to me just means Kyle didn't make it a point of emphasis going into the game and I don't have an issue with it. Only one SB has ever gone to OT before. With all the crap we had to prep for and the issues we had I don't have an issue with Kyle not having a whole meeting about something that may not happen.

Obviously we're in hindsight territory like you said so it's easy to say we should've done it the other way but using hindsight we still could've easily won the game. Both in scoring that TD to open OT if Burford blocks his assignment or if we stop KC on the 4th down attempt.

Facts in that game was our defense was gassed. Their offense hasn't been able to score a TD without a short field in 6 quarters of football.

I think moving forward having a mandatory 15 min meeting about OT rules should be put into place. Especially playoff OT rules. Unless you're the Dolphins who may not show up to such meetings

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
if we SWAP coaches next year, and both teams stays healthy... 100% sure that we will beat Shanny's Bills in the Super Bowl next year !! IF they CAN get to Super Bowl !!

HA

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
SB 54-People bring up the Sanders play. But...if he scores a TD, there is over a minute left. Would Kyle, knowing his D was gassed, tell them in advance to go down near the goal line if there is say 90 seconds or so left? But it should have never came to that. I watched the game and was annoyed they stopped running it when they were getting decent yardage on each carry. Unless your QB is elite, you don't allow them to go airing it out.

SB 58-I have a few issues. Not kicking to KC in OT. Doing so allows you to know what is needed on the next offensive possession. It's decreases the likelihood of them using all four downs. Some might say the D is gassed. Well, they were still gassed and it didn't make a difference when KC got the ball. I still believe they did not know that playoff OT differed from the regular season. I can guarantee you that Reid, McVay, Belichick all kick off there.

I'm sorry but this is straight nonsense. This is no different than people who claimed we drafted Solomon Thomas cuz he took a class with Lynch. Just pure delusion and insanity.

EVERY player and coach who has ever worked with Shanahan talks about Kyle's attention to detail. Taking the insane logic leap that he somehow didn't know a major rule changed happened in a season where we were SB favorites vs simply not spending extra time on it preparing for a possibility that may not happen is just nonsense.

First of all we also had players saying Kyle brought it up to them before, whether they were covering up for him or not doesn't change the fact that he knew the rules and made the decision based on how THAT game went. I'm not even going to get into it again since we talked about it for 100s of pages during the offseason but what you can't guarantee is what other coaches would've done because they weren't there.

The goals didn't change - score TD on your drive, stop the other team. At worst players would look stupid celebrating if we scored the opening drive TD.

Didn't Armstead and Juice admit after the Super Bowl that they didn't know, though (or at least didn't know until right before OT started)?

I'm sure Kyle knew the new OT rules before deciding to receive the ball first. It wasn't a good decision with the 20/20 version of hindsight (you make a decision and lose, you simply wonder if the alternative would've led to something different), but at the time he was well-aware of the rules. He just figured a) we could score a TD and force the Chiefs to have to tie just to get to sudden death or go for 2 and b) defense needed some rest.

But Armstead/Juice saying they didn't know in advance is just one of those things that's optically embarrassing and extra salt in the wound, even if it didn't actually make a difference. It shows we weren't as prepared for all possible scenarios as we should've been, for one of the biggest games in franchise history.

Kyle's decision NOT to go for it on both 4th downs (4th and OT) is what cost us the game. Knowing that you're giving the ball back to Mahomes with 1:53 left in the 4th and infinite time in OT is a recipe for disaster, especially when one of your star LBs is out and is replaced with a subpar LB that was getting exposed throughout the second half. Just like the previous SB, Kyle went full turtle and decided to "play not to lose" instead of putting the ball in his best unit's hand and letting them close it out.

Of course his protectors will retort by claiming "well if we didn't make the first then you guys would be crying about why we didn't kick the FG". Well I guess we will never know because Kyle decided Wilks was the best man available to stop Mahomes.

We will never win a SB with Kyle Shanahan as coach. He just doesn't have what it takes when the game is on the line. 0-2