49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Kyle's doing a great job so far at least.

And top be honest, so was Lynch. The best possible outcome for this season was to return to being a contender via a strong draft class that showed promise while all our key players stayed healthy. Unfortunately, the latter hasn't happened.

It sucks.. Just our luck.. but if the majority of the below were not hurt, you could probably argue we might've actually been the top team in the NFC:

QB PURDY
TE KITTLE
WR PEARSALL
WR JENNINGS
WR AIYUK
LG BARTCH
LB WARNER
DE BOSA
S MUSTAPHA

And that's not even counting injuries to the depth guys like WR Cowing/Watkins, DE Gross Matos, OG Burford, and DTs West and Davis are out there trying to play with clubs, which I'm sure severely limits you.

So yeah.. we've had insane adversity.

Kyle, Saleh, and Lynch are doing well to keep us fighting.

This.

To be 4-2 with this level of injuries is testament to the strength of the roster build and coaching.

i don't think Shanahan or Lynch are perfect. They've made multiple mistakes on different levels.

But if you get away from the minutiae of certain specific decisions and take a holistic view I find it hard to believe people really think Shanahan and/or Lynch have performed poorly.

I find it wild that some want them fired. Not sure what the basis of it is. Unless it's just frustration.

How many teams do you think would swap Shanahan.for their current HC? I reckon it's at least 20 teams.

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

It's the same vibe in here every season. There are some folks like us who say hey we like Kyle overall, but we also have these criticisms... and its like all or nothing in here with loving or hating him. There's no nuance

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

It's the same vibe in here every season. There are some folks like us who say hey we like Kyle overall, but we also have these criticisms... and its like all or nothing in here with loving or hating him. There's no nuance

There ARE people who want Kyle fired though, and they are hilariously ridiculous. And clearly weren't here when Tomsula/Kelly were our coach.

The guy you're quoting is definitely one of these people, by the way.

The only reason I am staying somewhat positive is how well Kyle is dealing with all these injuries and overall he's a good coach, our offensive guys will be coming back, and the schedule supports at least a playoff berth.

But Warners injury really deflated me into the realization that a SB is just not possible anymore. Can someone please tell me I'm wrong and I should hold onto SB hopes. Can the offense explode and carry us? I just don't think so because Mac and Purdy simply are throwing too many picks. We have a lot of turnovers. Please tell me to hold strong

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Kyle's doing a great job so far at least.

And top be honest, so was Lynch. The best possible outcome for this season was to return to being a contender via a strong draft class that showed promise while all our key players stayed healthy. Unfortunately, the latter hasn't happened.

It sucks.. Just our luck.. but if the majority of the below were not hurt, you could probably argue we might've actually been the top team in the NFC:

QB PURDY
TE KITTLE
WR PEARSALL
WR JENNINGS
WR AIYUK
LG BARTCH
LB WARNER
DE BOSA
S MUSTAPHA

And that's not even counting injuries to the depth guys like WR Cowing/Watkins, DE Gross Matos, OG Burford, and DTs West and Davis are out there trying to play with clubs, which I'm sure severely limits you.

So yeah.. we've had insane adversity.

Kyle, Saleh, and Lynch are doing well to keep us fighting.

Well said.

Originally posted by 9moon:
YOU'RE going out of the point you were making.. read your post... Team with Mahomes will be better than Team with Grappy, was it?

that's why I gave you the Eli and Foles examples...

I believe KC was favored by 1 point or 2 if not mistaken... and that's only because of the QB... but we had the better team.... that point spread was that close because Andy has yet to win a Super Bowl while Shanny was wayyyyyy overrateddddd... Make no mistake, we had the better team..

Point I was making was the gulf between the two qbs is so great it makes it hard to suggest the weaker team was better.

Do I think the Giants and Eagles were better? No but their QBs played great and won. Jimmy was not great despite the opportunities that were there.

9ers weren't better than the Packers in 2021 either. But they won. It happens.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Kyle's doing a great job so far at least.

And top be honest, so was Lynch. The best possible outcome for this season was to return to being a contender via a strong draft class that showed promise while all our key players stayed healthy. Unfortunately, the latter hasn't happened.

It sucks.. Just our luck.. but if the majority of the below were not hurt, you could probably argue we might've actually been the top team in the NFC:

QB PURDY
TE KITTLE
WR PEARSALL
WR JENNINGS
WR AIYUK
LG BARTCH
LB WARNER
DE BOSA
S MUSTAPHA

And that's not even counting injuries to the depth guys like WR Cowing/Watkins, DE Gross Matos, OG Burford, and DTs West and Davis are out there trying to play with clubs, which I'm sure severely limits you.

So yeah.. we've had insane adversity.

Kyle, Saleh, and Lynch are doing well to keep us fighting.

Well said.

This is it. 3/4 All Pros on that list. The team is still fighting and that starts at the top. It's funny fans complain about the line. Harbaugh teams had a good line; fans complained about the WR's. Not too many better combos than Shanan & Saleh in the NFL.

Also no one can take you seriously when you want the 7th best coach in the big 10 as the replacement.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Yea, that's a lot of spin from the Kyle fans. We had Mahomes controlled all game with under 8 minutes left in the game. Then Kyle went full retard and shelled up. Did it again vs the Rams in the NFCC game and against vs KC a couple years back. But no. Let's blame having to play against Mahomes and Stafford as the reasons why we lost, had nothing to do with Kyle

Shelled up? You were literally b***hing about him not running it enough…now he shelled up?

Let's just ignore the actual X's and O's in that game and ignore the missed plays by Jimmy or the knocked down passes by Chris Jones and blame Shanahan…

This is why your posts come off as trolling. Just outlandish takes based on nothing real.

Nothing real ? It's a better take than the "not Kyle's fault" that some of you spew around. You give up 21 points in the last 7.5 minutes of a SB that you're leading by 10, and your hot take is it's everyone's fault except Kyle Shanahan's. Talk about trolling…

brah... the SHANNANIGANS will continue to point fingers to either the ref, the player, the pass, the run, the blocking, the fumble.. but giving up 10 points the last 10 minutes or less will never be part of Shanny's ideocracy..

Shanny went with Grappy over the 2nd best QB to ever play the game, then had a 2nd chance with Stafford but still stayed w/Jimmy so that he can either get all the credit if he wins the SB or blame Jimmy as his QB.

yayayayyayayayay !!

In an appearance on 'Third and Long,' Ward revealed that the 49ers played right into the Chiefs' defense's hands when they abandoned their run game in the fourth quarter.

"The game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy (Garoppolo)'s hands, man," Ward told Third and Long host, 49ers defensive tackle Arik Armstead. "I hate to say this. Our game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy's hands, but Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. For some reason in the fourth quarter they stopped running the ball, and we kinda took over a little bit.

His own player puts the onus on Kyle for changing the game plan, but yea let's blame the players because "coaches don't play". Laughable…

My gosh do you double check anything you post?

Ward was on the Chiefs so your "his own player" comment is useless. Second I don't care what Ward or Mathieu had to say, obviously they won the game so they can talk about what they wanted to see happen.

How about you go back and actually look at what happened?

Here were the 4th quarter drives.
1st drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 10
1st and 10 - Mostert run for 6 yards
2nd and 4 - Kittle 12 yard reception
1st and 10 - Moster run for 1 yard
2nd and 9 - incomplete pass - Jimmy audibles out of the run then misfires to Deebo
3rd and 9 - false start
3rd and 14 - Jimmy run for 3 yards

2nd drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 17
1st and 10 - Mostert 5 yard run
2nd and 5 - Incomplete pass - Chris Jones bats down pass at the line
3rd and 5 - incomplete pass - Jimmy G gets hit in the head with no call

Chiefs have the lead the rest of the game.

So the whole narrative that Shanahan stopped running the ball is just as stupid as it was in the 2nd SB when you actually look at what happened.

There were really only 2 downs on both of those drives in the 4th quarter where you can make a case the 49ers should've ran the ball and those were the 2nd downs. One was a run play that Jimmy canned out of and the other was a wide open play to be made ruined by Jones making a big time play.

I'm pretty confident had Chris Jones not knocked that pass down or the refs called roughing the passer like they should have we wouldn't be hearing Ward and Mathieu talking about how thankful they were we stopped running.

I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

My response is to actually show you what happened in the game...not a player talking trash after the game is over.

It was 2 plays, one of which Jimmy changed to a pass play. The other was killed by Chris Jones batting the ball down. If you can't wrap your brain around information that simple then I don't know what to tell you. You're clearly not looking at reason and just want to beat that anti Kyle drum.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by DrEll:
I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

It's the same vibe in here every season. There are some folks like us who say hey we like Kyle overall, but we also have these criticisms... and its like all or nothing in here with loving or hating him. There's no nuance

You just watched him look at nuance in the face and swat it away like it's a bug annoying him.

There are legit criticisms with Kyle...like his reluctance on addressing our OL issues and some other things(this year he's improved on a bunch of those things)

These guys don't want nuance. They want to say he's a bad HC who will never win a SB. They have nothing of worth to go on...just that he hasn't yet so he never can.

This same poster just 2 pages ago was talking about Shanahan shelling up...now he's complaining Shanahan didn't run enough cuz Chiefs players said they wanted Jimmy to throw the ball.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Also no one can take you seriously when you want the 7th best coach in the big 10 as the replacement.

Kyle is a damn good coach and anyone being objective would acknowledge it.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Yea, that's a lot of spin from the Kyle fans. We had Mahomes controlled all game with under 8 minutes left in the game. Then Kyle went full retard and shelled up. Did it again vs the Rams in the NFCC game and against vs KC a couple years back. But no. Let's blame having to play against Mahomes and Stafford as the reasons why we lost, had nothing to do with Kyle

Shelled up? You were literally b***hing about him not running it enough…now he shelled up?

Let's just ignore the actual X's and O's in that game and ignore the missed plays by Jimmy or the knocked down passes by Chris Jones and blame Shanahan…

This is why your posts come off as trolling. Just outlandish takes based on nothing real.

Nothing real ? It's a better take than the "not Kyle's fault" that some of you spew around. You give up 21 points in the last 7.5 minutes of a SB that you're leading by 10, and your hot take is it's everyone's fault except Kyle Shanahan's. Talk about trolling…

brah... the SHANNANIGANS will continue to point fingers to either the ref, the player, the pass, the run, the blocking, the fumble.. but giving up 10 points the last 10 minutes or less will never be part of Shanny's ideocracy..

Shanny went with Grappy over the 2nd best QB to ever play the game, then had a 2nd chance with Stafford but still stayed w/Jimmy so that he can either get all the credit if he wins the SB or blame Jimmy as his QB.

yayayayyayayayay !!

In an appearance on 'Third and Long,' Ward revealed that the 49ers played right into the Chiefs' defense's hands when they abandoned their run game in the fourth quarter.

"The game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy (Garoppolo)'s hands, man," Ward told Third and Long host, 49ers defensive tackle Arik Armstead. "I hate to say this. Our game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy's hands, but Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. For some reason in the fourth quarter they stopped running the ball, and we kinda took over a little bit.

His own player puts the onus on Kyle for changing the game plan, but yea let's blame the players because "coaches don't play". Laughable…

My gosh do you double check anything you post?

Ward was on the Chiefs so your "his own player" comment is useless. Second I don't care what Ward or Mathieu had to say, obviously they won the game so they can talk about what they wanted to see happen.

How about you go back and actually look at what happened?

Here were the 4th quarter drives.
1st drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 10
1st and 10 - Mostert run for 6 yards
2nd and 4 - Kittle 12 yard reception
1st and 10 - Moster run for 1 yard
2nd and 9 - incomplete pass - Jimmy audibles out of the run then misfires to Deebo
3rd and 9 - false start
3rd and 14 - Jimmy run for 3 yards

2nd drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 17
1st and 10 - Mostert 5 yard run
2nd and 5 - Incomplete pass - Chris Jones bats down pass at the line
3rd and 5 - incomplete pass - Jimmy G gets hit in the head with no call

Chiefs have the lead the rest of the game.

So the whole narrative that Shanahan stopped running the ball is just as stupid as it was in the 2nd SB when you actually look at what happened.

There were really only 2 downs on both of those drives in the 4th quarter where you can make a case the 49ers should've ran the ball and those were the 2nd downs. One was a run play that Jimmy canned out of and the other was a wide open play to be made ruined by Jones making a big time play.

I'm pretty confident had Chris Jones not knocked that pass down or the refs called roughing the passer like they should have we wouldn't be hearing Ward and Mathieu talking about how thankful they were we stopped running.

I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

My response is to actually show you what happened in the game...not a player talking trash after the game is over.

It was 2 plays, one of which Jimmy changed to a pass play. The other was killed by Chris Jones batting the ball down. If you can't wrap your brain around information that simple then I don't know what to tell you. You're clearly not looking at reason and just want to beat that anti Kyle drum.

He wasn't talking trash. At the time of the interview, Ward was already a member of the 49ers.

I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."

You just can't accept real quotes from an active player on the defensive roster for the Chiefs in that game. He's telling you how Shanahan f**ked up the gameplan which tilted the game to the Chiefs. Instead, you'd rather do a play by play analysis and find others to blame just so it fits your narrative. Kyle Shanahan "shelled" up in the final moments of that game. And by shelled up (since that seems to be important to you) I mean he went into turtle mode and abandoned the very thing that gave them the 20-10 lead going into the 4th.

This team has to just change its mindset to trying to outscore its opponents... Pressure situational defense won't be there but Shann has the scheme to score... if he wants to get aggressive..which he needs to.. theyll need to be up on the scoreboard early to win games so the defense can make mistakes..

Originally posted by ChuckLeavy32:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Kyle's doing a great job so far at least.

And top be honest, so was Lynch. The best possible outcome for this season was to return to being a contender via a strong draft class that showed promise while all our key players stayed healthy. Unfortunately, the latter hasn't happened.

It sucks.. Just our luck.. but if the majority of the below were not hurt, you could probably argue we might've actually been the top team in the NFC:

QB PURDY
TE KITTLE
WR PEARSALL
WR JENNINGS
WR AIYUK
LG BARTCH
LB WARNER
DE BOSA
S MUSTAPHA

And that's not even counting injuries to the depth guys like WR Cowing/Watkins, DE Gross Matos, OG Burford, and DTs West and Davis are out there trying to play with clubs, which I'm sure severely limits you.

So yeah.. we've had insane adversity.

Kyle, Saleh, and Lynch are doing well to keep us fighting.

Well said.

This is it. 3/4 All Pros on that list. The team is still fighting and that starts at the top. It's funny fans complain about the line. Harbaugh teams had a good line; fans complained about the WR's. Not too many better combos than Shanan & Saleh in the NFL.

And being real, yes, obviously Lynch made mistakes in previous drafts that hurt us, but he sacked up and did what he had to do to give us a chance this year.

Tbh, Jed might even deserve a teeny bit of credit for saying we needed a shift. I think we have a bright future still in the coming years.

Even if Purdy doesn't rebound, well, you might be able to give Mac the reigns in 27. We also have a rookie QB who I like a lot and might be something once developed. We've set ourselves up with options and potential in a lot of areas. That's what you need to do to stay relevant.

Fix the pass rush and OL for 26.

Let your young guys develop and shine everywhere else.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DrEll:
Yea, that's a lot of spin from the Kyle fans. We had Mahomes controlled all game with under 8 minutes left in the game. Then Kyle went full retard and shelled up. Did it again vs the Rams in the NFCC game and against vs KC a couple years back. But no. Let's blame having to play against Mahomes and Stafford as the reasons why we lost, had nothing to do with Kyle

Shelled up? You were literally b***hing about him not running it enough…now he shelled up?

Let's just ignore the actual X's and O's in that game and ignore the missed plays by Jimmy or the knocked down passes by Chris Jones and blame Shanahan…

This is why your posts come off as trolling. Just outlandish takes based on nothing real.

Nothing real ? It's a better take than the "not Kyle's fault" that some of you spew around. You give up 21 points in the last 7.5 minutes of a SB that you're leading by 10, and your hot take is it's everyone's fault except Kyle Shanahan's. Talk about trolling…

brah... the SHANNANIGANS will continue to point fingers to either the ref, the player, the pass, the run, the blocking, the fumble.. but giving up 10 points the last 10 minutes or less will never be part of Shanny's ideocracy..

Shanny went with Grappy over the 2nd best QB to ever play the game, then had a 2nd chance with Stafford but still stayed w/Jimmy so that he can either get all the credit if he wins the SB or blame Jimmy as his QB.

yayayayyayayayay !!

In an appearance on 'Third and Long,' Ward revealed that the 49ers played right into the Chiefs' defense's hands when they abandoned their run game in the fourth quarter.

"The game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy (Garoppolo)'s hands, man," Ward told Third and Long host, 49ers defensive tackle Arik Armstead. "I hate to say this. Our game plan was to put the ball in Jimmy's hands, but Kyle Shanahan, he was just calling run after run. For some reason in the fourth quarter they stopped running the ball, and we kinda took over a little bit.

His own player puts the onus on Kyle for changing the game plan, but yea let's blame the players because "coaches don't play". Laughable…

My gosh do you double check anything you post?

Ward was on the Chiefs so your "his own player" comment is useless. Second I don't care what Ward or Mathieu had to say, obviously they won the game so they can talk about what they wanted to see happen.

How about you go back and actually look at what happened?

Here were the 4th quarter drives.
1st drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 10
1st and 10 - Mostert run for 6 yards
2nd and 4 - Kittle 12 yard reception
1st and 10 - Moster run for 1 yard
2nd and 9 - incomplete pass - Jimmy audibles out of the run then misfires to Deebo
3rd and 9 - false start
3rd and 14 - Jimmy run for 3 yards

2nd drive: 49ers 20 Chiefs 17
1st and 10 - Mostert 5 yard run
2nd and 5 - Incomplete pass - Chris Jones bats down pass at the line
3rd and 5 - incomplete pass - Jimmy G gets hit in the head with no call

Chiefs have the lead the rest of the game.

So the whole narrative that Shanahan stopped running the ball is just as stupid as it was in the 2nd SB when you actually look at what happened.

There were really only 2 downs on both of those drives in the 4th quarter where you can make a case the 49ers should've ran the ball and those were the 2nd downs. One was a run play that Jimmy canned out of and the other was a wide open play to be made ruined by Jones making a big time play.

I'm pretty confident had Chris Jones not knocked that pass down or the refs called roughing the passer like they should have we wouldn't be hearing Ward and Mathieu talking about how thankful they were we stopped running.

I'm sorry. I didn't anything past that. A player in the GAME is telling you what their game plan was against Kyle Shanahan, and how Kyle played into what they wanted him to do by getting away from what was working. Your response ? His comments are useless.

My response is to actually show you what happened in the game...not a player talking trash after the game is over.

It was 2 plays, one of which Jimmy changed to a pass play. The other was killed by Chris Jones batting the ball down. If you can't wrap your brain around information that simple then I don't know what to tell you. You're clearly not looking at reason and just want to beat that anti Kyle drum.

He wasn't talking trash. At the time of the interview, Ward was already a member of the 49ers.

I don't want to say too much about it because I'm part of the organization now. Going into the game we were extremely confident, but once y'all came out doing all that what y'all doing, we were like 'Damn, these boys are kinda good. We gotta like man up and thud up.' And that's kinda like what we did in the fourth quarter."

You just can't accept real quotes from an active player on the defensive roster for the Chiefs in that game. He's telling you how Shanahan f**ked up the gameplan which tilted the game to the Chiefs. Instead, you'd rather do a play by play analysis and find others to blame just so it fits your narrative. Kyle Shanahan "shelled" up in the final moments of that game. And by shelled up (since that seems to be important to you) I mean he went into turtle mode and abandoned the very thing that gave them the 20-10 lead going into the 4th.

No he's not. It's like your mind literally can't wrap itself around what's being said and just turns to "Shanahan f'd up everything"

Like literally the quote you posted from Ward said Kyle was calling run after run. NOWHERE in those quotes did Ward blame Shanahan. I literally showed you what happened in those 4th quarter drives and there are 2 plays where we didn't run that logically you can say we should've. You're not running the ball on 3rd and 14 or 3rd and 5 if you're trying to move the chains.

One of those downs was Jimmy audibling to a pass play.
The other was a wide open play that would've given us a first down and maybe more if Chris Jones doesn't bat the ball down at the LOS.

You're taking those comments and that information and saying Kyle Shanahan f"d up everything. So call it whatever you want but most people's definition of shelling up is getting conservative aka running the ball. You don't even know what you're arguing...just trying to pain a picture that Kyle f'd up everything but can't even find the quotes to back it up.

And btw news flash...EVERY defense is looking to stop the run and force the QB to throw the ball when that QB isn't elite. That's playoff defense 101.