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Sep 24, 2025 at 7:40 PM
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:13 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.
[ Edited by captveg on Sep 24, 2025 at 8:14 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:40 PM
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:43 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.

They're probably better than the odds of a HC with zero appearances making it.
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:46 PM
Peeps are major down about Bosa but Kyle is still atleast Top5

He is likely leading odds for COY
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:48 PM
I agree, he is an upper echelon coach. However, whatever it was that he(I still believe the media swayed the team) saw in Trey Lance will cost him a spot on the all time greats list. That trade essentially blew up a Super Bowl roster.
If he were to leave it would be an Andy Feid situation, close in Philly then becomes Super Bowl Andy in KC.
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:52 PM
Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
Peeps are major down about Bosa but Kyle is still atleast Top5

He is likely leading odds for COY

The Colts Head Coach will be a shoe in if they continue winning. Kyle was robbed twice of the and now he's doing what is expected of him
[ Edited by Hysterikal on Sep 24, 2025 at 8:52 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:54 PM
It's a difficult question.

* We are probably the worst 3 - 0 team. Not really untrue.
* Yet we are 3 - 0. One of a very few remaining undefeated teams.
* Still we are always the most injured team in the league. Especially at the very key positions and players.

So what to make of it all? IDK? The rookies look better than expected and sooner than expected too. Some look like stars. Mykel Williams being front and center. Pearsall from last year looks like he may emerge as a star. That gives you 2 years in a row of hitting on 1st round picks. Something this regime almost never does. In addition to a very good overall rookie class. Sprinkle in some trades like Huff and free agents. This team is not really all bad.

But it's not going anywhere without Bosa. Without an elite pass rush I don't see advancing in the playoffs deep. At this point it's a grow and learn year for the 2 young classes. Our time was always 2026 - 2029 IMO. Never saw it as this year. But out schedule was favorable. Bosa is now a problem. That's 3 ACL's now. 1 High School and 2 Pros. He will be 29 next October. Approaching 30 with torn up knees and huge guaranteed salary. I don't believe we can count on him anymore long term. We need a replacement even there. But I do hope he recovers.
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:54 PM
Originally posted by Bullrush42:
I agree, he is an upper echelon coach. However, whatever it was that he(I still believe the media swayed the team) saw in Trey Lance will cost him a spot on the all time greats list. That trade essentially blew up a Super Bowl roster.
If he were to leave it would be an Andy Feid situation, close in Philly then becomes Super Bowl Andy in KC.

IMO it would have always came down to the red zone. And even Harbaugh couldn't bust it in. Respect 2 men that built/guided almost Championship teams around very good QBs
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:55 PM
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
Peeps are major down about Bosa but Kyle is still atleast Top5

He is likely leading odds for COY

The Colts Head Coach will be a shoe in if they continue winning. Kyle was robbed twice of the and now he's doing what is expected of him

It's still messed up that he lost out to Brian Daboll in 2022 despite going 13-4 with 3 different QBs.
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:56 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by genus49:
Another former great NFL player with big compliment for Kyle



Can active / former players' compliments win us a Super Bowl?

Can they erase the two Super Bowl losses under Shanahan?

Honestly.

I know some fans love the media / other teams' players and coaches praising Shanahan, but how does that change the actual state of the franchise?

Because historically speaking most of the great coaches eventually break through and win a championship. Kyle's age (45) combined with his work ethic and the law of averages suggest he'll eventually break through.

The Reid/Spags/Mahomes match-up is a bad one for him up to this point. The odds of facing them if he reaches the SB again are even slimmer now. Maybe next time he gets lucky like McVay and faces a good QB/DC/HC combo but not his particular achilles heel QB/DC/QB combo yet again.

Sorry but that is factually not true.

The odds of a two-time Super Bowl losing coach making a third appearance are extremely low.

These kind of historical odds have no actual influence on future events, though. I remember when no team that started 0-2 won the Super Bowl - then the 1993 Cowboys did it. I remember that no 6 seed had ever won a SB - then the 2007 Giants and 2010 Packers both did it.

Did you know that in 1968 no head coach had won a SB not named Lombardi? Ewas every HC in the league doomed to never win it because of this historical statistic?

Did you know that in 1969 no HC that had lost a SB before had won a subsequent SB? Good thing the Chiefs didn't follow that logic and fire Hank Stram.

Some day a HC that is previously 0-2 in the SB is going to win the SB. Why? Because probability says it will eventually occur.

Many of the great coaches have won a SB after losing one. Losing two and then breaking through is not that statistically different when it's all said and done. Some day it will happen.

I wasn't also talking about SBs when I said breaking through.
[ Edited by captveg on Sep 24, 2025 at 9:06 PM ]
Sep 24, 2025 at 8:59 PM
Brock was asked to throw a route over the middle. Mahomes did a slide and dump off.

That is play design. Reid is better.
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:02 PM
Don Shula lost his first two SuperBowls.
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:03 PM
Originally posted by 90sFortyNiner:
Brock was asked to throw a route over the middle. Mahomes did a slide and dump off.

That is play design. Reid is better.

Throw over the middle was open. Brock just missed it.
Sep 24, 2025 at 9:03 PM
Originally posted by Bullrush42:
I agree, he is an upper echelon coach. However, whatever it was that he(I still believe the media swayed the team) saw in Trey Lance will cost him a spot on the all time greats list. That trade essentially blew up a Super Bowl roster.
If he were to leave it would be an Andy Feid situation, close in Philly then becomes Super Bowl Andy in KC.

So you want Kyle to leave and win 7 SBs or something with, say, the Dolphins instead because... history says for him to do it that way?

Why not just let him do that here if you think that can happen?

He also won't be defined by the Lance trade because in the seasons Lance was on the team he made the NFC championship game in both years. No actual historian would frame those seasons as some terrible blight on that coach's record. No, they'll point to 2020 and 2024 as the actual disappointing seasons.
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