49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

Originally posted by socalfan21:
This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

We went to NFCCG in 2013 and lost to Dick Sherman. I knew the winner of that game was winning the Super Bowl. Too bad it was SEA

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Some dumb team would have traded multiple first and second round picks for him this year. Next year he will get fired and we will get nothing for him

1. Teams were allowed to offer us trades for him and didn't.

2. If anything the roster strip down buys Kyle more time.

Originally posted by socalfan21:
This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

If this team is "broken" to the tune of 2013 I'd say we're in good hands. I'd expect Brock to not throw the fade to Crabtree vs Sherman tho.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

We went to NFCCG in 2013 and lost to Dick Sherman. I knew the winner of that game was winning the Super Bowl. Too bad it was SEA

I'm probably thinking of 2014 then. 2013 it was a miracle they went that far

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

We went to NFCCG in 2013 and lost to Dick Sherman. I knew the winner of that game was winning the Super Bowl. Too bad it was SEA

I'm probably thinking of 2014 then. 2013 it was a miracle they went that far

Wasn't a miracle at all. In fact we got hosed by the Ahmad Brooks roughing the passer call that cost us the Saints game and home field advantage in the playoffs which in those days basically how the Seahawks/49ers games were decided. Whoever had home field won.

I'm assuming you're talking about the Tomsula season which was in 2015.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Some dumb team would have traded multiple first and second round picks for him this year. Next year he will get fired and we will get nothing for him

1. Teams were allowed to offer us trades for him and didn't.

2. If anything the roster strip down buys Kyle more time.

We don't know anything about what was offered. Or if anyone knew he was even on the table. I am positive if any one if the insiders had leaked shanahan trade is on the table we would have heard rumors and got offered.

I don't see how you can justify 10 years in being in the same spot as he was hired. If that's the idea than might as well just extend him another 10 years and let him go 20 years before even considering replacing him.

Or just sign him to a lifetime contract irregardless of results.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
We don't know anything about what was offered. Or if anyone knew he was even on the table. I am positive if any one if the insiders had leaked shanahan trade is on the table we would have heard rumors and got offered.

I don't see how you can justify 10 years in being in the same spot as he was hired. If that's the idea than might as well just extend him another 10 years and let him go 20 years before even considering replacing him.

Or just sign him to a lifetime contract irregardless of results.

Another 10 years of shanny would be good. We are blessed if he decides to stay that long

Originally posted by socalfan21:
I'm probably thinking of 2014 then. 2013 it was a miracle they went that far

yeah disagree. it was two best teams in the NFC battling it out. Legion of Boom then destroyed Manning and that prolific offense in the bowl. our offense couldnt do much and defense and ironically Kaeps legs kept us in the game. That game broke the Niners literally and figuratively - Bowman's injury pretty much ended his career as an elite LB and then 2014 was a disappointment with Harbaugh ultimately leaving and roster turnover + tomsula in 2015 burying the team

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We went to NFCCG in 2013 and lost to Dick Sherman. I knew the winner of that game was winning the Super Bowl. Too bad it was SEA

Too bad b***h ass brees got that bogus roughing call against brooks or that nfccg would've been in SF :(

Cmon Kyle.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Some dumb team would have traded multiple first and second round picks for him this year. Next year he will get fired and we will get nothing for him

1. Teams were allowed to offer us trades for him and didn't.

2. If anything the roster strip down buys Kyle more time.

We don't know anything about what was offered. Or if anyone knew he was even on the table. I am positive if any one if the insiders had leaked shanahan trade is on the table we would have heard rumors and got offered.

I don't see how you can justify 10 years in being in the same spot as he was hired. If that's the idea than might as well just extend him another 10 years and let him go 20 years before even considering replacing him.

Or just sign him to a lifetime contract irregardless of results.

Same spot as when he was hired? You think that's accurate?


The offense has been better every season since Kyle took over. Same with the defense(even though it doesn't take much to improve from the disaster we saw in 2016)

Kyle has his flaws but some of them may be changing either by force or from experience - such as his reluctance to trust young players. Well guess what...he's gonna have to trust young players next season. Hopefully he's also learned to improve his situational playcalling with a lead and not having Deebo around will actually help our offense become harder to defend.

And once again I think we're heading into the conversation of what's considered successful from coaching standards. The ultimate prize is winning the SB but there is too much evidence to show that Kyle is in fact a good coach as our players are prized across the league when they hit free agency or if we release them.

If the directive from ownership is - trim the fat, get younger and cheaper and build around the key guys in place then I think we're definitely better off with Shanahan calling the shots and having Saleh back for the defense is huge as well.

Heck for all the complaining people are doing about the losses this offseason, one thing we can see from the additions is Kyle is changing his stance on special teams.

Would certainly be something if we finally got over the SB hump and it was because of key plays by special teams.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Some dumb team would have traded multiple first and second round picks for him this year. Next year he will get fired and we will get nothing for him

1. Teams were allowed to offer us trades for him and didn't.

2. If anything the roster strip down buys Kyle more time.

We don't know anything about what was offered. Or if anyone knew he was even on the table. I am positive if any one if the insiders had leaked shanahan trade is on the table we would have heard rumors and got offered.

I don't see how you can justify 10 years in being in the same spot as he was hired. If that's the idea than might as well just extend him another 10 years and let him go 20 years before even considering replacing him.

Or just sign him to a lifetime contract irregardless of results.

Same spot as when he was hired? You think that's accurate?


The offense has been better every season since Kyle took over. Same with the defense(even though it doesn't take much to improve from the disaster we saw in 2016)

Kyle has his flaws but some of them may be changing either by force or from experience - such as his reluctance to trust young players. Well guess what...he's gonna have to trust young players next season. Hopefully he's also learned to improve his situational playcalling with a lead and not having Deebo around will actually help our offense become harder to defend.

And once again I think we're heading into the conversation of what's considered successful from coaching standards. The ultimate prize is winning the SB but there is too much evidence to show that Kyle is in fact a good coach as our players are prized across the league when they hit free agency or if we release them.

If the directive from ownership is - trim the fat, get younger and cheaper and build around the key guys in place then I think we're definitely better off with Shanahan calling the shots and having Saleh back for the defense is huge as well.

Heck for all the complaining people are doing about the losses this offseason, one thing we can see from the additions is Kyle is changing his stance on special teams.

Would certainly be something if we finally got over the SB hump and it was because of key plays by special teams.

8 years and he's 50/50 on winning and losing seasons with no Super Bowl to hang his hat on. 2-3 more years of this same stuff will probably get him canned. Teams don't pay HCs to get close and have bad seasons.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Some dumb team would have traded multiple first and second round picks for him this year. Next year he will get fired and we will get nothing for him

1. Teams were allowed to offer us trades for him and didn't.

2. If anything the roster strip down buys Kyle more time.

We don't know anything about what was offered. Or if anyone knew he was even on the table. I am positive if any one if the insiders had leaked shanahan trade is on the table we would have heard rumors and got offered.

I don't see how you can justify 10 years in being in the same spot as he was hired. If that's the idea than might as well just extend him another 10 years and let him go 20 years before even considering replacing him.

Or just sign him to a lifetime contract irregardless of results.

Same spot as when he was hired? You think that's accurate?


The offense has been better every season since Kyle took over. Same with the defense(even though it doesn't take much to improve from the disaster we saw in 2016)

Kyle has his flaws but some of them may be changing either by force or from experience - such as his reluctance to trust young players. Well guess what...he's gonna have to trust young players next season. Hopefully he's also learned to improve his situational playcalling with a lead and not having Deebo around will actually help our offense become harder to defend.

And once again I think we're heading into the conversation of what's considered successful from coaching standards. The ultimate prize is winning the SB but there is too much evidence to show that Kyle is in fact a good coach as our players are prized across the league when they hit free agency or if we release them.

If the directive from ownership is - trim the fat, get younger and cheaper and build around the key guys in place then I think we're definitely better off with Shanahan calling the shots and having Saleh back for the defense is huge as well.

Heck for all the complaining people are doing about the losses this offseason, one thing we can see from the additions is Kyle is changing his stance on special teams.

Would certainly be something if we finally got over the SB hump and it was because of key plays by special teams.

8 years and he's 50/50 on winning and losing seasons with no Super Bowl to hang his hat on. 2-3 more years of this same stuff will probably get him canned. Teams don't pay HCs to get close and have bad seasons.

Let's be real. Kyle took over a horrible roster and it took him 2 years to turn it over into one of the better teams in the league.

There was no expectation to win quickly given what he took over and the two losing seasons since 2019 when the expectations changed drastically were filled with major injuries to key players.

Eventually if we don't win the SB then yes, the team is likely to make a change but the Andy Reid comparisons are there for a reason.

Andy was fired 8 years after his SB loss(ironically enough they won 6 games the year after losing the SB) then went 10-6, 8-8, 9-6-1 the next 3 seasons after. He was fired 2 straight years of missing the playoffs which followed 2 1 and done visits to the playoffs in 2 years prior to that.

As long as the team isn't quitting on Kyle and we're not wasting money and resources I don't see him going anywhere soon unless he wants out(if Jed and Paraag are calling the shots now, that may happen)

Originally posted by socalfan21:
This team is broken. They're no longer contenders. This will be 2013 all over again

This will be a long downhill slide. Followed by years of top 3, 5, 7, 10, 12 picks. They will get so bad for so long. It's inevitable they come back up. The Yorks pattern. They have done it before. Then you will hear about how the Yorks know what they are doing.