49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Shany SKIPPED the scouting combine every year since 2020. Including this year. Even Belichick used to go. I'd see him there on TV if you watch on NFL Network. More important stuff to do apparently. No wonder we miss so much in the first 2 rounds.

Everyone knows the combine doesn't prove anything outside of dumb fans. It's all for TV.

Unless there is some athletic Freak WR, DB OR maybe a QB. I watch because it's interesting and I have an addiction to football.

I'm not saying if you watch the combine you're dumb, just if you take it seriously. I'll have in the background as well.

Idk how many coaches/gms have said that the combine overall doesn't influence their decisions when drafting. And there's nothing to see in person that they can't just pull up on film (what actually matters). They can also just ask for a report of their measurables once the combine is done.

Lynch also mentioned in the past that he'll go to the combine just talk to other people around the league. And that's the main reason coaches/GMs go the combine. Not to watch an OL doing a broad jump or watch a WR run in shorts and catch balls uncontested.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Shany SKIPPED the scouting combine every year since 2020. Including this year. Even Belichick used to go. I'd see him there on TV if you watch on NFL Network. More important stuff to do apparently. No wonder we miss so much in the first 2 rounds.

I think Kyle said a while back that he feels there is no point to him going to the combine when he can just sit on his couch and watch tape. Every coach has their own preferences.

Coach Bill Belichick would go. Even after they played in the Super Bowl. He was not too tired. I would see him on TV on NFL Network and ESPN. I believe Andy Reid mostly goes. Most of the top tier coaches do go. I don't have an exact list of every attending head coach for the last 25 years. Just remember seeing them there on TV broadcasts. So they got to be there if they are in the stands watching. Not sure there is a definitive list like that anyway. Who even catalogs that? It's assumed most go. Some maybe not to apparently work on other things. I still think it's a real good idea to go. Especially with a top 11 pick. But any year really.

Belichick was notoriusly bad at drafting offense. The combine didn't do him any good.

He won 6 Super Bowls and drafted Tom Brady. It wasn't beneath him to go to the combine. They had many late year runs to the Super Bowl too. So he didn't use the too tired excuse after a long season. You can go to the combine. It's not everything but should be part of the evaluation. You can't skip it if you are a serious organization.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Shany SKIPPED the scouting combine every year since 2020. Including this year. Even Belichick used to go. I'd see him there on TV if you watch on NFL Network. More important stuff to do apparently. No wonder we miss so much in the first 2 rounds.

I think Kyle said a while back that he feels there is no point to him going to the combine when he can just sit on his couch and watch tape. Every coach has their own preferences.

Coach Bill Belichick would go. Even after they played in the Super Bowl. He was not too tired. I would see him on TV on NFL Network and ESPN. I believe Andy Reid mostly goes. Most of the top tier coaches do go. I don't have an exact list of every attending head coach for the last 25 years. Just remember seeing them there on TV broadcasts. So they got to be there if they are in the stands watching. Not sure there is a definitive list like that anyway. Who even catalogs that? It's assumed most go. Some maybe not to apparently work on other things. I still think it's a real good idea to go. Especially with a top 11 pick. But any year really.

Belichick was notoriusly bad at drafting offense. The combine didn't do him any good.

He won 6 Super Bowls and drafted Tom Brady. It wasn't beneath him to go to the combine. They had many late year runs to the Super Bowl too. So he didn't use the too tired excuse after a long season. You can go to the combine. It's not everything but should be part of the evaluation. You can't skip it if you are a serious organization.

I know you're in here somewhere saying how great Sean McVay is he doesn't go to the combine.

It's not a big deal. Kyle went in 2017 I'm pretty sure and we drafted Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster in the first round. Looked great on paper after and ended up being a disaster.

Let's be honest you'd be complaining about something else if he went to the combine.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Shany SKIPPED the scouting combine every year since 2020. Including this year. Even Belichick used to go. I'd see him there on TV if you watch on NFL Network. More important stuff to do apparently. No wonder we miss so much in the first 2 rounds.

I think Kyle said a while back that he feels there is no point to him going to the combine when he can just sit on his couch and watch tape. Every coach has their own preferences.

Coach Bill Belichick would go. Even after they played in the Super Bowl. He was not too tired. I would see him on TV on NFL Network and ESPN. I believe Andy Reid mostly goes. Most of the top tier coaches do go. I don't have an exact list of every attending head coach for the last 25 years. Just remember seeing them there on TV broadcasts. So they got to be there if they are in the stands watching. Not sure there is a definitive list like that anyway. Who even catalogs that? It's assumed most go. Some maybe not to apparently work on other things. I still think it's a real good idea to go. Especially with a top 11 pick. But any year really.

Belichick was notoriusly bad at drafting offense. The combine didn't do him any good.

He won 6 Super Bowls and drafted Tom Brady. It wasn't beneath him to go to the combine. They had many late year runs to the Super Bowl too. So he didn't use the too tired excuse after a long season. You can go to the combine. It's not everything but should be part of the evaluation. You can't skip it if you are a serious organization.

I know you're in here somewhere saying how great Sean McVay is he doesn't go to the combine.

It's not a big deal. Kyle went in 2017 I'm pretty sure and we drafted Solomon Thomas and Reuben Foster in the first round. Looked great on paper after and ended up being a disaster.

Let's be honest you'd be complaining about something else if he went to the combine.

Sean McVay should go. All coaches should go. But a coach who has proven he can win the Super Bowl gains a little more leeway vs a coach who has proven he can't. Still think they both should go. But you can't bust as much as we do in the first 2 rounds and not go to the combine. It's one thing if the first 2 rounds were stellar. But look at us in particular from 2020 - 2024. The last 4 years we can use as an example. Look it up. In the early rounds it's pathetic. First 2 rounds. Now look up the Eagles. I can see why they can win and we can't.

Kyle just being Kyle.

Hes a friggin genius!!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Sean McVay should go. All coaches should go. But a coach who has proven he can win the Super Bowl gains a little more leeway vs a coach who has proven he can't. Still think they both should go. But you can't bust as much as we do in the first 2 rounds and not go to the combine. It's one thing if the first 2 rounds were stellar. But look at us in particular from 2020 - 2024. The last 4 years we can use as an example. Look it up. In the early rounds it's pathetic. First 2 rounds. Now look up the Eagles. I can see why they can win and we can't.

Omg get over it

I believe nothing can be gained from watching football players run around in shorts and a tank top. However, there are often nuggets that can be gleaned about a face-to-face conversation with a player. For that reason, I believe it can be helpful to see how a player acts in the presence of the guy who holds his future in his hands.

My .02 worth...

Originally posted by dj43:
I believe nothing can be gained from watching football players run around in shorts and a tank top. However, there are often nuggets that can be gleaned about a face-to-face conversation with a player. For that reason, I believe it can be helpful to see how a player acts in the presence of the guy who holds his future in his hands.

My .02 worth...

Agreed the player meetings are helpful and watching players run around without pads on is pointless. It is funny how people say Kyle's to involved in the draft process are now people are complaining he's not involved in this part of the draft process.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by dj43:
I believe nothing can be gained from watching football players run around in shorts and a tank top. However, there are often nuggets that can be gleaned about a face-to-face conversation with a player. For that reason, I believe it can be helpful to see how a player acts in the presence of the guy who holds his future in his hands.

My .02 worth...

Agreed the player meetings are helpful and watching players run around without pads on is pointless. It is funny how people say Kyle's to involved in the draft process are now people are complaining he's not involved in this part of the draft process.

teams get a certain amount of players to interview at HQ. So teams don't have to be there to interview draftees

I dunno, I think being there and getting a first hand look of these guys simply to get a head start on the drafting process wouldn't hurt but I also agree there's not much really going on.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I dunno, I think being there and getting a first hand look of these guys simply to get a head start on the drafting process wouldn't hurt but I also agree there's not much really going on.

Or he could just watch film on names scouts have given to him because by now they know what he wants.

I just kind of hope he now shows up so the people bashing him for not doing it can come back and say he's wasting his time going there.

Originally posted by genus49:
I just kind of hope he now shows up so the people bashing him for not doing it can come back and say he's wasting his time going there.

Lol right? This is starting to remind me of politics in a really bad way

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I dunno, I think being there and getting a first hand look of these guys simply to get a head start on the drafting process wouldn't hurt but I also agree there's not much really going on.

Or he could just watch film on names scouts have given to him because by now they know what he wants.

Sure, and that's what he'll do. But being there affords the chance to be much more involved than just linear film watching after the fact. I'm not "trashing" Kyle on this to be clear, I'm just offering my personal opinion. Me I am a hands on guy. I just think you can see small tangibles and things like how a guy carries himself and acts around others. Maybe seeing something small you like in some guy you may have not looked at as much that was not on film. Or maybe you see somethings you don't like on a player and put a guy you wouldve looked at later more on the back burner.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and act like it's a big deal to me, it's not but I think getting an idea of players as an entirety and being there would give you a fraction of head start compared to watching it on film later. Just my personal opinion, not hating on Kyle at all on this particular issue.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I dunno, I think being there and getting a first hand look of these guys simply to get a head start on the drafting process wouldn't hurt but I also agree there's not much really going on.

Or he could just watch film on names scouts have given to him because by now they know what he wants.

Sure, and that's what he'll do. But being there affords the chance to be much more involved than just linear film watching after the fact. I'm not "trashing" Kyle on this to be clear, I'm just offering my personal opinion. Me I am a hands on guy. I just think you can see small tangibles and things like how a guy carries himself and acts around others. Maybe seeing something small you like in some guy you may have not looked at as much that was not on film. Or maybe you see somethings you don't like on a player and put a guy you wouldve looked at later more on the back burner.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and act like it's a big deal to me, it's not but I think getting an idea of players as an entirety and being there would give you a fraction of head start compared to watching it on film later. Just my personal opinion, not hating on Kyle at all on this particular issue.

If we're being real...we don't want Kyle making those types of judgments given the results from HIS guys.

I think there have been a handful of draft picks who have the Kyle stamp of approval all over them from all the information we know.

Joe Williams - we had him off our draft board and Kyle wanted him
CJ Beathard - not only was he the QB Kyle wanted out of that draft but we traded up into the bottom of the 3rd round so Kyle could sleep better
Dante Pettis
Deebo Samuel
Trey Lance

I'm sure I may be overlooking a couple.

But out of that bunch clearly the only one we hit on was Deebo and I think the miss on Pettis changed or at least impacted what Kyle looks for in WRs.

It may be smarter for Kyle to hang back and let the scouts/Lynch feel out these prospects. Let Kyle concentrate on what he's good at - the film and stick to the offense more.

Let Saleh/Bradley call the shots on defense.