49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm not trying to stir things up here, but you guys cant deny the facts. Since Christmas day the niners have played three meaningful games

Ravens
Commanders
Packers

The 49ers have looked like crap in all three of them. I havent seen the niners look dominant since before the ravens game. Just because they have the #1 seed and beat the packers doesn't mean it's all fine and dandy.

They beat the commanders but that game wasnt in the bag until late in the 4th. They don't generate pressure on the opposing qb. Ambry thomas and both safeties are a liability. Purdy has not looked good in all three of them. Yes he had a couple nice passes in the commanders game. But nothing to write home about. Shanahan refuses to give cmc a rest and refuses to play Mitchel and Mason which makes absolutely no sense to me. Deebo is now hurt. I believe deebo is purdys safety net. He is kelce to mahommes. He is Welker to brady. Those qbs were not as successful when their safety nets weren't playing. Wilks inspires zero confidence.

I really hope deebo plays this week because without him, the niners have no chance.

lol that's a good joke. Didn't read the rest cause I was laughing to much

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I'm not trying to stir things up here, but you guys cant deny the facts. Since Christmas day the niners have played three meaningful games

Ravens
Commanders
Packers

The 49ers have looked like crap in all three of them. I havent seen the niners look dominant since before the ravens game. Just because they have the #1 seed and beat the packers doesn't mean it's all fine and dandy.

They beat the commanders but that game wasnt in the bag until late in the 4th. They don't generate pressure on the opposing qb. Ambry thomas and both safeties are a liability. Purdy has not looked good in all three of them. Yes he had a couple nice passes in the commanders game. But nothing to write home about. Shanahan refuses to give cmc a rest and refuses to play Mitchel and Mason which makes absolutely no sense to me. Deebo is now hurt. I believe deebo is purdys safety net. He is kelce to mahommes. He is Welker to brady. Those qbs were not as successful when their safety nets weren't playing. Wilks inspires zero confidence.

I really hope deebo plays this week because without him, the niners have no chance.

My take on your topics : Now is not the time to 'give CMC rest'. You ride your stars, this is for the right to go to the SB. Maybe manage the CMC load during some random week 8. Deebo isn't a safety net so much, he just keeps Ray Ray off the field a good deal. Deebo can contribute in a ton of ways, Ray Ray doesn't do anything outside of ST. The go to guy when BP needs a play is typically BA.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ritz126:
ah yes the leader in yards/play for the last 3 years is super conservative.

from the mind of a the Rams will win the SB

He is conservative though. It's a well covered topic around the football world. I'm not jumping off a cliff over it like the usual posters who are just waiting on the team to fail so they can cry about him. He's an elite head coach but this is one of his warts.

maybe we should get brandon staley?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

I'm not trying to stir things up here, but you guys cant deny the facts. Since Christmas day the niners have played three meaningful games

Ravens
Commanders
Packers

The 49ers have looked like crap in all three of them. I havent seen the niners look dominant since before the ravens game. Just because they have the #1 seed and beat the packers doesn't mean it's all fine and dandy.

They beat the commanders but that game wasnt in the bag until late in the 4th. They don't generate pressure on the opposing qb. Ambry thomas and both safeties are a liability. Purdy has not looked good in all three of them. Yes he had a couple nice passes in the commanders game. But nothing to write home about. Shanahan refuses to give cmc a rest and refuses to play Mitchel and Mason which makes absolutely no sense to me. Deebo is now hurt. I believe deebo is purdys safety net. He is kelce to mahommes. He is Welker to brady. Those qbs were not as successful when their safety nets weren't playing. Wilks inspires zero confidence.

I really hope deebo plays this week because without him, the niners have no chance.

They have only played 3 days since Christmas day.

The 49ers were uo 20-10 following their first possession of the third quarter against WAS. The game was never at risk.

Originally posted by ritz126:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ritz126:
ah yes the leader in yards/play for the last 3 years is super conservative.

from the mind of a the Rams will win the SB

He is conservative though. It's a well covered topic around the football world. I'm not jumping off a cliff over it like the usual posters who are just waiting on the team to fail so they can cry about him. He's an elite head coach but this is one of his warts.

maybe we should get brandon staley?

Folks conflate this issue, playcalling is one thing. When you say Campbell is aggressive and Kyle is conservative, which KNBR has been talking about, they aren't talking about yds / play or even playcalling. Campbell doesn't call plays. They are talking about a HCs approach to 4th downs, 2 pt conversions, and analytics type decisions on do you keep the O on the field. Kyle can be the best play caller in football, and still be tight on those analytics moments, Kyle is on record saying he doesn't really buy into analytics in this sense.

Here's a piece him talking about how he frowns upon analytics: https://www.ninersnation.com/2023/10/6/23905593/kyle-shanahan-analytics-49ers-cowboys

As HC and playcaller, that's a ton on his plate. Campbell doesn't call plays. I imagine it's a lil easier to be analytical and to manage clock if you aren't calling plays at the same time.

3 NFC Championship Games in a row, 4 out 5 years

crazy good head coach, hope purdy doesn't f**k it up this sunday

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I didn't like the gameplan kyle had, or at least the one he called. I thought it was one of kyles more odd games. Career high throwing for Brock in the rain during a close game? Odd.

I'm glad they were able to come through and have a comeback but I'm hoping kyle and Brock have a better gameplan for the lions. I think they will. Kyle doesn't usually have consecutive games of poor calling. I think the niners offense will be on fire now thay it's going to be a clear day.

goff is going to get manhandled 😈

Perhaps the two weeks off gave Kyle time to overthink things and made him want to put on a show. What he should have known is that wet Brock isn't consistently accurate. The time to put on a show could be this weekend where the 49ers may have to put up 30+ points to get the job done.

I feel the run/pass distribution is a combination of two things:

• Shanahan didn't think Purdy would be effected by the rain as much. Jordan Love seemed to be doing okay (but even he had some balls get away from him). I would assume that after this game, and the Browns game, Shanahan will have learned his lesson for the future.
• Early downs, Packers typically have 5 defensive linemen, so he opted to pass. Without looking at the film, I assume Packers probably also showed looks that encouraged him to pass than to run, even though it probably would've made more sense to go with a run-heavy gameplan.

Contrary to the thought that people think he wants to "put on a show" or just stubbornly wants to go with the original gameplan.. sometimes I wonder if he just looks at the game purely from an X's and O's standpoint. Like, "oh, they're showing a lot of this certain coverage, so yeah, makes sense to attack with this coverage beater" and doesn't adjust for Purdy struggling in the rain.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Folks conflate this issue, playcalling is one thing. When you say Campbell is aggressive and Kyle is conservative, which KNBR has been talking about, they aren't talking about yds / play or even playcalling. Campbell doesn't call plays. They are talking about a HCs approach to 4th downs, 2 pt conversions, and analytics type decisions on do you keep the O on the field. Kyle can be the best play caller in football, and still be tight on those analytics moments, Kyle is on record saying he doesn't really buy into analytics in this sense.

Here's a piece him talking about how he frowns upon analytics: https://www.ninersnation.com/2023/10/6/23905593/kyle-shanahan-analytics-49ers-cowboys

As HC and playcaller, that's a ton on his plate. Campbell doesn't call plays. I imagine it's a lil easier to be analytical and to manage clock if you aren't calling plays at the same time.

Right. Kyle can be very aggressive in how he attacks defenses with his scheme and playcalls, but this is not the context of this criticism. The context is clock and possession management.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Folks conflate this issue, playcalling is one thing. When you say Campbell is aggressive and Kyle is conservative, which KNBR has been talking about, they aren't talking about yds / play or even playcalling. Campbell doesn't call plays. They are talking about a HCs approach to 4th downs, 2 pt conversions, and analytics type decisions on do you keep the O on the field. Kyle can be the best play caller in football, and still be tight on those analytics moments, Kyle is on record saying he doesn't really buy into analytics in this sense.

Here's a piece him talking about how he frowns upon analytics: https://www.ninersnation.com/2023/10/6/23905593/kyle-shanahan-analytics-49ers-cowboys

As HC and playcaller, that's a ton on his plate. Campbell doesn't call plays. I imagine it's a lil easier to be analytical and to manage clock if you aren't calling plays at the same time.

Right. Kyle can be very aggressive in how he attacks defenses with his scheme and playcalls, but this is not the context of this criticism. The context is clock and possession management.

I was super frustrated with the last drive of the first half but have since read about the philosophy of finishing and starting the halves with the ball to limit scoring ops for the opposition and to keep their offense out of the game for an hour. Understanding the priority of ending and starting with the ball makes sense.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-explains-wild-statistic/1672946/

There are reports that BB is losing momentum in the head coaching searches… 😈.

say hello to our next DC!

Originally posted by tankle104:
There are reports that BB is losing momentum in the head coaching searches… 😈.

say hello to our next DC!

Lol. From your lips to God's ears

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
I was super frustrated with the last drive of the first half but have since read about the philosophy of finishing and starting the halves with the ball to limit scoring ops for the opposition and to keep their offense out of the game for an hour. Understanding the priority of ending and starting with the ball makes sense.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-shanahan-explains-wild-statistic/1672946/

Yeah, I'm one of the few that didn't think he handled it poorly. We moved the ball, kept the ball out of their hands, and put ourselves in position to extend our lead. The screw up came on the play were we tried to get Aiyuk the ball over the middle and then take two shots at the endzone but that didn't work. So we ended up with that field goal that we missed.

That's the only reason people are upset IMO, cause if we would of scored a TD - Kyle would be called a genius. If we kicked a field goal, no one would be too upset cause we extended our league and be in position to lap them after halftime (we get the ball). While keeping their offense on the sideline for an hour+

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
There are reports that BB is losing momentum in the head coaching searches… 😈.

say hello to our next DC!

Lol. From your lips to God's ears

I think the biggest issue with getting BB, outside of the fact we have a DC lmao, is that we are on the west coast. I think he wants to remain on the EC for whatever he does.

otherwise, I'd think there would be a great chance we could bring him on as a consultant for a year or so - assuming he wouldn't get a HC position.

Originally posted by tankle104:
There are reports that BB is losing momentum in the head coaching searches… 😈.

say hello to our next DC!

Not worth it. He would be here max one year before he gets head coaching gig. What's the point of implementing his playbook into our defensive schemes then having to find someone like Matt Patricia for continuity when he leaves?

I'd rather get rid of Wilks then promote someone from the ranks that will carry the same plays that Saleh or Demeco did…

Originally posted by DrEll:
Not worth it. He would be here max one year before he gets head coaching gig. What's the point of implementing his playbook into our defensive schemes then having to find someone like Matt Patricia for continuity when he leaves?

I'd rather get rid of Wilks then promote someone from the ranks that will carry the same plays that Saleh or Demeco did…

Hire Bill, let him coach the year. When he moves on we can pick up Saleh after the Jest go belly up.

lol, there's zero chance BB is going to be our DC