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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:whats funny is that nothing is really different.. were just not executing the easy plays that got us through games.
Originally posted by Gore:
So Jimmy isn't great bc of coaching?
Jimmy not being able to make the same play he made 3 years ago to win a game is apparently the coaches fault yes.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
whats funny is that nothing is really different.. were just not executing the easy plays that got us through games.
What i and others noticed about his mistakes from the years prior are still being made, it's just now he can't execute the layups so it destroys any rhythm for the offense
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Gore:
So Jimmy isn't great bc of coaching?
Jimmy not being able to make the same play he made 3 years ago to win a game is apparently the coaches fault yes.
Originally posted by NCommand:
That Texas route was the primary then. Kittle was the primary on that INT with Wilson running a choice route on the backside.
But if you watched the video that was clearly explained. So was the safety.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That Texas route was the primary then. Kittle was the primary on that INT with Wilson running a choice route on the backside.
But if you watched the video that was clearly explained. So was the safety.
The Texas route to the guy who had one career reception at that point and was a udfa rb? You really think Kyle designed a play with 36 seconds left for 2019 Jeff Wilson?
No dude, Jimmy correctly read blitz and looked straight for the quick hitter.
He even talks about it being zero blitz
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/130874-jimmy-garoppolo-great-look-49ers-game-winning-touchdown-wilson/
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Go listen to KW again. He walks you through 2 examples of the backside outlet and how fans will screen, "But that guy was wide open over there!" Yup.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That Texas route was the primary then. Kittle was the primary on that INT with Wilson running a choice route on the backside.
But if you watched the video that was clearly explained. So was the safety.
The Texas route to the guy who had one career reception at that point and was a udfa rb? You really think Kyle designed a play with 36 seconds left for 2019 Jeff Wilson?
No dude, Jimmy correctly read blitz and looked straight for the quick hitter.
He even talks about it being zero blitz
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/130874-jimmy-garoppolo-great-look-49ers-game-winning-touchdown-wilson/
LOL. Go listen to KW again. He walks you through 2 examples of the backside outlet and how fans will screen, "But that guy was wide open over there!" Yup.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Go listen to KW again. He walks you through 2 examples of the backside outlet and how fans will screen, "But that guy was wide open over there!" Yup.
I listened to him. On both plays Jimmy needs to read blitz and go to the backside just like he did in 2019. It's his job to read the defense pre and post snap.
When the play was called in 2019 how would Kyle know it was zero blitz to know Jeff Wilson should be the primary?
You don't seem to understand that qbs are allowed to adjust who they throw to based on pre snap reads. That's what happened in 2019. Jimmy saw a look and adjusted accordingly. He misread things this week.
Originally posted by random49er:
There is a very common tactic lately of sucking other posters into over-discussing who was the primary read or option on particular plays. In the grand scheme of things, it hardly matters very much, as the QB has the job of processing what's in front of him and adjusting on the fly.
Maybe someone else can better explain how whether player X or player Y was the primary target on such and such play sways ANYTHING said here one way or another very much?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Like All, clearly, you did not.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Like All, clearly, you did not.
So Jimmy is incapable of a pre snap read? Got it.
2019 Jimmy was certainly capable
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Go listen to KW again. He walks you through 2 examples of the backside outlet and how fans will screen, "But that guy was wide open over there!" Yup.
I listened to him. On both plays Jimmy needs to read blitz and go to the backside just like he did in 2019. It's his job to read the defense pre and post snap.
When the play was called in 2019 how would Kyle know it was zero blitz to know Jeff Wilson should be the primary?
You don't seem to understand that qbs are allowed to adjust who they throw to based on pre snap reads. That's what happened in 2019. Jimmy saw a look and adjusted accordingly. He misread things this week.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Great post. You brought up some really great points. Checkdowns should certainly be a QB's best friend. With a higher number of checkdown targets, it would naturally cut down on the boneheaded plays. Mainly because Jimmy usually throws those boneheaded plays when the routes are well covered and pressure is closing in.
I'm praaaaaaying Kyle implements CMC as that outlet to the play side on every passing down where he's not a primary.
That would open up the passing game so much. You want to take away the middle of the field? Fine. We will just keep dumping it off to CMC in the flat off a delayed release out of the backfield. He can also chip on his way out.
Originally posted by Gore:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. Go listen to KW again. He walks you through 2 examples of the backside outlet and how fans will screen, "But that guy was wide open over there!" Yup.
I listened to him. On both plays Jimmy needs to read blitz and go to the backside just like he did in 2019. It's his job to read the defense pre and post snap.
When the play was called in 2019 how would Kyle know it was zero blitz to know Jeff Wilson should be the primary?
You don't seem to understand that qbs are allowed to adjust who they throw to based on pre snap reads. That's what happened in 2019. Jimmy saw a look and adjusted accordingly. He misread things this week.
Yup. NC has posted this quite a few times now. Even though it's proven over and over again that Kyle doesn't just run a 1 read scheme. There's progressions...
For the most part Kyle is not teaching Jimmy to just lock in on one guy and stare him down the whole time. There's times where Jimmy scans the field, but most often then not he doesn't. There are times when certain plays just have just one or two reads, but he makes it out seem like that's the majority of them.