49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

🗣🗣🗣 pic.twitter.com/Q1ALWiNAsB

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) September 26, 2022

Ouch

Who the f**k are those guys?

Guys that speak the truth…

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's got to be better

Neutral pass rates after 3 weeks pic.twitter.com/7SbdNUQW0a

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) September 27, 2022

Yikes

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Tons of turnover with offensive coaches and qb etc.

we are feeling it's effects now. Kyle needs more help on offense. Someone who is outside his box in the meeting rooms etc.

No. Kyle needs a QB who can hit the layups when he dials them up.

Both. I'm not blaming Kyle exclusively as jimmy had guys wide open but he shared the blame. That's what happens when you're in charge.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's got to be better

Neutral pass rates after 3 weeks pic.twitter.com/7SbdNUQW0a

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) September 27, 2022

So neutral passing is a phrase I need to learn now?

No. It's just another stat that they have come uo with to try and over analyze the game. No matter how many stats they have it's still football. The rules change and the players get bigger but the basics of the game are the same. Teams follow trends and they change every few years but it still comes down to outhitting and out scoring the other guys.

Just watch and enjoy.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yup. This is all Kyle's fault.

Yes Jimmy missed some plays. But some of those plays weren't the first read, the oline basically collapsed on the 2nd to last one. He did complete the one to deebo albeit it was a s**tt throw.

But why are we expecting Jimmy to be mahommes in his first game back after off season surgery without reps or timing down? If we all think Jimmy sucks, why isn't shanny calling plays that work to his strength? This is on shanny 100% he's the coach. He calls the plays for the particular personnel.

And speaking of Shanahan. He's best when he had a rb by committee approach. It worked in our superbowl year, it worked in Atlanta. Why the f**k Is mason getting 1 rush?

The run game was successful at times during the game but we only ran the ball 19 times. That was because we were 1 of 10 on 3rd down. The Denver defense was cheating hard on the shorter routes. Jimmy has been pressured on just 29.1% of his drop backs. Not great but not terrible either. The fact is, if Jimmy just took what the defense was giving him, the game wouldn't have been close.

So why stop running? And why run so much with Deebo who was the least successful runner statistically. This ISNT an anomoly. Same in Chicago. Same vs Seattle. Teams are no longer fooled by the Deebo-won't-be-as-effective-as-a-RB gimmick. Yes, it is Kyles fault. His QB. His RBs. His game plan. He's both the OC and the game caller AND the HC. He has final say on this uber talented 53. Don't like Jimmy, find someone else as a BU who's better. All-pro WR, perennial pro-bowl TE and FB that can toe tap a catch on the sideline. Stop trying to convince everyone the only offense available is Jimmy in the shotgun with the RB in PP where he needs to throw 7-9 yeards to Deebo or behind Aiyuk. Kyle knows what Jimmy's limits are so don't ask dude to throw 29 times against a good defense and only give the talented Mason who was the reason you CUT a 3rd round pick ONE carry for 7 yards. I'm not saying we should fire Kyle but damn the excuses must END. It's year 6.

Why didn't we run it more? Because we were 1/10 on 3rd down. The more 3rd downs you convert the more carries you can give to the RB's. I do agree that the Deebo RB experiment has run its course though.

Originally posted by jimrat:

"All of your plays suck man."- Jimmy G pic.twitter.com/7BAe0dUC3s

— Brooks Anderson II (@BNAmusic88) September 27, 2022

LOL it does lip read that doesn't it.

If he is disgruntled Purdy will be in REAL fast. Players play to win. Simple as that.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by jimrat:

"All of your plays suck man."- Jimmy G pic.twitter.com/7BAe0dUC3s

— Brooks Anderson II (@BNAmusic88) September 27, 2022

LOL it does lip read that doesn't it.

If he is disgruntled Purdy will be in REAL fast. Players play to win. Simple as that.

Lol that's hilarious. You think Jimmy wants out?

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Both. I'm not blaming Kyle exclusively as jimmy had guys wide open but he shared the blame. That's what happens when you're in charge.

100% This. Kyle does need a QB, but also needs to come up with a better game plan too

LOLz we are calling for Purdy 3 games in.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's got to be better

Neutral pass rates after 3 weeks pic.twitter.com/7SbdNUQW0a

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) September 27, 2022

So neutral passing is a phrase I need to learn now?

No. It's just another stat that they have come uo with to try and over analyze the game. No matter how many stats they have it's still football. The rules change and the players get bigger but the basics of the game are the same. Teams follow trends and they change every few years but it still comes down to outhitting and out scoring the other guys.

Just watch and enjoy.

Yeah agreed. I don't need a graphic to tell me our passing game is f**king horrible. I was watching Cooper Rush last night feeling envious they could pass the ball and that's when I knew we have a problem.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yup. This is all Kyle's fault.

Did you seriously look at all the plays on this clip?

1st play. Jimmy choses decent target but not the best option, ball deflected at line. That's on the OL and maybe Jimmy for not moving

2nd play. That looks like once Jimmy looked at Kittle and he was open, he locked. Not horrible since he was the most open player at that moment. Yes, I know there was a better option...but honestly, if you see an open Kittle or Deboo, you're gonna lock too.

3rd play Looks like Jimmy didn't see the guy getting open in the crowd at the top of the screen. By the time he did get open jimmy turned his head. That's on Jimmy. Even if he couldn't see the player get free, he should have seen the underneath and realized someone was open.

4th He hit the right guy. Maybe not a perfect pass but the WR made it worse.

5th. Guy in his face (no one even bumped him) in safety territory. Bad throw, but I don't hate the reaction.

6th. This is on Jimmy. He had 2 wide open dump off options and 1 man on man throw. He delayed and brought coverage to the dump off option he selected.

7th. Pocket completely collapsed on Jimmy. Bad throw under pressure. Had a good target.

8th. Pocket collapsed again. Good selection for the dump. Bad execution again.

9th. Pocket collapsed. Tried to roll out. No one in a good position to throw to. DL got him. It happens, he's not a fast man and had no help.

What I see more than anything is a bad Oline and a coach not calling plays to compensate. Jimmy is a good QB, but he's not going to overcome these kinds of obstacles like a Montana, Young, Manning, Brady would. That's why we tried to upgrade at QB. Knowing that, it is up to the coach to put him in a position to win. That doesn't mean Jimmy doesn't carry any burden just not all of it..not even close.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's got to be better

Neutral pass rates after 3 weeks pic.twitter.com/7SbdNUQW0a

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) September 27, 2022

So neutral passing is a phrase I need to learn now?

No. It's just another stat that they have come uo with to try and over analyze the game. No matter how many stats they have it's still football. The rules change and the players get bigger but the basics of the game are the same. Teams follow trends and they change every few years but it still comes down to outhitting and out scoring the other guys.

Just watch and enjoy.

Yeah agreed. I don't need a graphic to tell me our passing game is f**king horrible. I was watching Cooper Rush last night feeling envious they could pass the ball and that's when I knew we have a problem.

Even Daniel Jones looked good to me. I wonder if they move off him. He could be a nice backup potentially next season.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That's got to be better

Neutral pass rates after 3 weeks pic.twitter.com/7SbdNUQW0a

— Hayden Winks (@HaydenWinks) September 27, 2022

So neutral passing is a phrase I need to learn now?

No. It's just another stat that they have come uo with to try and over analyze the game. No matter how many stats they have it's still football. The rules change and the players get bigger but the basics of the game are the same. Teams follow trends and they change every few years but it still comes down to outhitting and out scoring the other guys.

Just watch and enjoy.

Yeah agreed. I don't need a graphic to tell me our passing game is f**king horrible. I was watching Cooper Rush last night feeling envious they could pass the ball and that's when I knew we have a problem.

Even Daniel Jones looked good to me. I wonder if they move off him. He could be a nice backup potentially next season.

I'm scared imma watch the Panthers play and come away wanting Baker Mayfield

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yup. This is all Kyle's fault.

Yes Jimmy missed some plays. But some of those plays weren't the first read, the oline basically collapsed on the 2nd to last one. He did complete the one to deebo albeit it was a s**tt throw.

But why are we expecting Jimmy to be mahommes in his first game back after off season surgery without reps or timing down? If we all think Jimmy sucks, why isn't shanny calling plays that work to his strength? This is on shanny 100% he's the coach. He calls the plays for the particular personnel.

And speaking of Shanahan. He's best when he had a rb by committee approach. It worked in our superbowl year, it worked in Atlanta. Why the f**k Is mason getting 1 rush?

The run game was successful at times during the game but we only ran the ball 19 times. That was because we were 1 of 10 on 3rd down. The Denver defense was cheating hard on the shorter routes. Jimmy has been pressured on just 29.1% of his drop backs. Not great but not terrible either. The fact is, if Jimmy just took what the defense was giving him, the game wouldn't have been close.

So why stop running? And why run so much with Deebo who was the least successful runner statistically. This ISNT an anomoly. Same in Chicago. Same vs Seattle. Teams are no longer fooled by the Deebo-won't-be-as-effective-as-a-RB gimmick. Yes, it is Kyles fault. His QB. His RBs. His game plan. He's both the OC and the game caller AND the HC. He has final say on this uber talented 53. Don't like Jimmy, find someone else as a BU who's better. All-pro WR, perennial pro-bowl TE and FB that can toe tap a catch on the sideline. Stop trying to convince everyone the only offense available is Jimmy in the shotgun with the RB in PP where he needs to throw 7-9 yeards to Deebo or behind Aiyuk. Kyle knows what Jimmy's limits are so don't ask dude to throw 29 times against a good defense and only give the talented Mason who was the reason you CUT a 3rd round pick ONE carry for 7 yards. I'm not saying we should fire Kyle but damn the excuses must END. It's year 6.

Why didn't we run it more? Because we were 1/10 on 3rd down. The more 3rd downs you convert the more carries you can give to the RB's. I do agree that the Deebo RB experiment has run its course though.

We didn't convert on 3rd because we didn't run enough and asked Jimmy to throw too much.

Wilson was over 5ypc
Mason had 1 carry for 7 yards

Between those two they had 20 carries. 4.6ypc for all runners.

Actually, Wilson averaged 6.3 ypc. But if you take away that one 37 yard run, he averaged 3.5 ypc. Are you seriously suggesting we run it on 3rd and 4+ just to keep the ball out of Jimmy's hands? People are acting like Jimmy threw the ball 40+ times in the game. Also, questioning Kyle on his run/pass split is just crazy. Shanny wants to run the ball more than any other head coach in the league. I can promise you that.