49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by Baldie:
I'd agree with you if we had probowl caliber talent at every position and were still losing. This roster was not going to be a SB contender in one offseason.

the hell with the super bowl,, is it to much to ask the team to be respectable enough to beat the colts

Originally posted by cciowa:

what makes you think kyle will be anything different,. right now, this team is worse than they have been in the last two years and they keep making the same mistakes,. thats on your coaches

Because he's actually putting a NFL caliber system in place...chip Kelly was running a college spread system that was regarded as the most predictable offense in the NFL. There's a reason he's not coaching currently. Tomsula had no business coaching a team...he's a DL coordinator nothing more. Dude was farting at press-conferences for go sake and had coaches from NFL Europe around him... Kyle had proven he's a top end OC at multiple places.

Like I said go to the film breakdown thread...it's all there from Xs and Os stand pt. He's scheming players open, but they simply don't have the overall talent yet. Does he need to work on being a HC? For sure he's brand new man. He got to get seasoned just like this vey young team. You got stop with the Instant gratification stuff Instant gratification stuff

As far as being worst, we beat the s**tty Rams twice last yr dude...we got blown the f**k out the whole yr and had the worst overall team stats in a very very very long time. Wins and losses imo don't determine everything.

Any who did you want as HC? I seem to remember you wanted kyle or am I wrong on that?

Go shanny go

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

What are the signs?

Priority #1 was drafting a DE (that cannot get to the QB) in the first round of the third straight draft.

Why did you bring up the past three drafts? Our current GM has only had one draft last I saw

They simply didn't think the top qbs in the past draft were a fit for our offense and I agree.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
You right and I do.

The team showing no progress is false, NY has given you tons of examples, what do you have to back up your claim? With an 0-5 record this team is bad, yes, but to say they're not improving is nonsense. I would love a full detailed analysis of how they're not improving?

1 qb play is bad
2 pass protection is bad
3 run defense is bad, tackling is bad
4 secondary is horrid
the penalties and shooting themselves in the foot continue, all these things have been happening since pre season and it is not just young guys so that spin is false. in pre season we saw all these things and you know as well as i do., other posters. nothing i made up, speaking of fantasy spin.... everyone said., it will be different come regular season. well in all those areas it is not. not being ready to play the game and the mistakes and penalties are on the coach.. but here comes the regular season. things have not improved in those areas but of course that just leads to the narrative changing with some people and more deflection and denial

Wrong. That's not detailed, try again.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
You right and I do.

The team showing no progress is false, NY has given you tons of examples, what do you have to back up your claim? With an 0-5 record this team is bad, yes, but to say they're not improving is nonsense. I would love a full detailed analysis of how they're not improving?

1 qb play is bad
2 pass protection is bad
3 run defense is bad, tackling is bad
4 secondary is horrid
the penalties and shooting themselves in the foot continue, all these things have been happening since pre season and it is not just young guys so that spin is false. in pre season we saw all these things and you know as well as i do., other posters. nothing i made up, speaking of fantasy spin.... everyone said., it will be different come regular season. well in all those areas it is not. not being ready to play the game and the mistakes and penalties are on the coach.. but here comes the regular season. things have not improved in those areas but of course that just leads to the narrative changing with some people and more deflection and denial

Wrong. That's not detailed, try again.

lol

Originally posted by susweel:

Ks good enough coach to make the game somewhat entertaining and lose. All these losses should help out during draft time but by then the losing culture might be too hard shake. Shanny might the coach to stock pile talent and then the next coach comes in puts it together. He might be the Nolan of this decade.

Losing culture with a bunch of 20 yr olds can change very quickly...when you have an old team that's constantly losing then you have problems. They can rehaul this team with 5 top 100 picks and $100+ million in cap space.

Get a QB with top pick or bring in Kirk
Sign a FA CB
Draft pass rusher
Draft a WR
Spend money on OL

That can all get done if they're smart about it.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

You right and I do.

The team showing no progress is false, NY has given you tons of examples, what do you have to back up your claim? With an 0-5 record this team is bad, yes, but to say they're not improving is nonsense. I would love a full detailed analysis of how they're not improving?

1 qb play is bad
2 pass protection is bad
3 run defense is bad, tackling is bad
4 secondary is horrid
the penalties and shooting themselves in the foot continue, all these things have been happening since pre season and it is not just young guys so that spin is false. in pre season we saw all these things and you know as well as i do., other posters. nothing i made up, speaking of fantasy spin.... everyone said., it will be different come regular season. well in all those areas it is not. not being ready to play the game and the mistakes and penalties are on the coach.. but here comes the regular season. things have not improved in those areas but of course that just leads to the narrative changing with some people and more deflection and denial

Wrong. That's not detailed, try again.

You've listed a bunch of things but provided no connection between them and the idea that the team is not improving. If anything, those things are more logically explained by the fact that the team lacks talent.

Junior high reasoning at it's best.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:
Ks good enough coach to make the game somewhat entertaining and lose. All these losses should help out during draft time but by then the losing culture might be too hard shake. Shanny might the coach to stock pile talent and then the next coach comes in puts it together. He might be the Nolan of this decade.

Losing culture with a bunch of 20 yr olds can change very quickly...when you have an old team that's constantly losing then you have problems. They can rehaul this team with 5 top 100 picks and $100+ million in cap space.

Get a QB with top pick or bring in Kirk
Sign a FA CB
Draft pass rusher
Draft a WR
Spend money on OL

That can all get done if they're smart about it.

You sure about that, just look at the cleveland browns.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:
Ks good enough coach to make the game somewhat entertaining and lose. All these losses should help out during draft time but by then the losing culture might be too hard shake. Shanny might the coach to stock pile talent and then the next coach comes in puts it together. He might be the Nolan of this decade.

Losing culture with a bunch of 20 yr olds can change very quickly...when you have an old team that's constantly losing then you have problems. They can rehaul this team with 5 top 100 picks and $100+ million in cap space.

Get a QB with top pick or bring in Kirk
Sign a FA CB
Draft pass rusher
Draft a WR
Spend money on OL

That can all get done if they're smart about it.

We're not that young, especially on offense

Hoyer - 31, Hyde - 26, Garcon 31, A.Robinson - 29, Goodwin 26, Staley - 33, Fusco - 29, Kilgore 29.

Originally posted by jcs:

We're not that young, especially on offense

Hoyer - 31, Hyde - 26, Garcon 31, A.Robinson - 29, Goodwin 26, Staley - 33, Fusco - 29, Kilgore 29.

How many of those guys will be on this roster in 2 years? Hoyer, Robinson, Kilgore and Fusco are going to be replaced PDQ.


This team overall has the 2nd youngest roster in football.

1. Need a Hall of fame qb
2. Need a probowl OL
3. Need a hall of fame #1 wr
4. Need a new RB that can carry the ball 20-25 times a day without hurting his vagina
5. Need a hall of fame pass rusher ala Haley and a pro bowl pass rusher on the other side.
6. Need a game changing safety like Ed Reed
7. Need Reuben Foster to stay healthy and a replacement to Bowman.

That should do it.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by jcs:
We're not that young, especially on offense

Hoyer - 31, Hyde - 26, Garcon 31, A.Robinson - 29, Goodwin 26, Staley - 33, Fusco - 29, Kilgore 29.

How many of those guys will be on this roster in 2 years? Hoyer, Robinson, Kilgore and Fusco are going to be replaced PDQ.

This team overall has the 2nd youngest roster in football.

8th actually...the 2nd youngest are the Rams.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by susweel:
Ks good enough coach to make the game somewhat entertaining and lose. All these losses should help out during draft time but by then the losing culture might be too hard shake. Shanny might the coach to stock pile talent and then the next coach comes in puts it together. He might be the Nolan of this decade.

Losing culture with a bunch of 20 yr olds can change very quickly...when you have an old team that's constantly losing then you have problems. They can rehaul this team with 5 top 100 picks and $100+ million in cap space.

Get a QB with top pick or bring in Kirk
Sign a FA CB
Draft pass rusher
Draft a WR
Spend money on OL

That can all get done if they're smart about it.

We're not that young, especially on offense

Hoyer - 31, Hyde - 26, Garcon 31, A.Robinson - 29, Goodwin 26, Staley - 33, Fusco - 29, Kilgore 29.

whats the avg age out of college for FB players 23/22? Hyde, GW relatively still young

6 players at or near 30. are those the oldest, whats the age of the 47 other players on the team?

We have like what - 20+ NEW players on this roster right?