49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

"There's a few options on the play," Shanahan said. "It could have been a handoff. The D-End went up on the play. It's the exact same play we ran three plays before that where Deebo got a 52-yarder. So there's a lot of stuff that goes into it."

Shanny can say whatever he wants but the eye in the sky dont lie, the film proves it... Shanny covering his azz here LOL

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
almost as if Shanny ran TL without regard to potential injury

He ran a zone read. Wow how dare he….

It was a QB counter trey blocking scheme designed run, no zone scheme

It's zone read, if #10 chases down Lance gives to McCloud

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) September 18, 2022

the backside guard and tackle pulled, that doesn't happen with inside zone blocking... it was a play for a qb run all the way

Kyle confirmed it was the same play that Deebo went for 50 sooo

too bad it didn't work for Lance sooo....

Kyle making defensive excuses. "Lots of teams run that play. Its a normal play." Not when you have a premium asset trying to finally get some snaps in his NFL career. Only a moron would put a player like that in a position to get hurt and be 2 years behind when he finally got healthy. Kyle is too stubborn and proud to ever learn.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
"There's a few options on the play," Shanahan said. "It could have been a handoff. The D-End went up on the play. It's the exact same play we ran three plays before that where Deebo got a 52-yarder. So there's a lot of stuff that goes into it."

Shanny can say whatever he wants but the eye in the sky dont lie, the film proves it... Shanny covering his azz here LOL

Or you're not the great film evaluator you think you are.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
49er fans searching for someone to blame when a player gets hurt

More like NY searching for excuses whenever Shanahan f**ks up.

LOL.

Hey Kyle, your system eats though QB's too, unfortunately.

"We feel very fortunate to have Jimmy here as our number two quarterback, especially when your starter gets hurt," Shanahan said. "It's good to know the experience and how good of a player he is. We've lost our starting quarterback I think the fourth time in sixth years, so we have been in this before. I do feel we're a little more prepared with our backup right now, so I'm happy for that."

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
almost as if Shanny ran TL without regard to potential injury

He ran a zone read. Wow how dare he….

It was a QB counter trey blocking scheme designed run, no zone scheme

It's zone read, if #10 chases down Lance gives to McCloud

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) September 18, 2022

the backside guard and tackle pulled, that doesn't happen with inside zone blocking... it was a play for a qb run all the way

Kyle confirmed it was the same play that Deebo went for 50 sooo

too bad it didn't work for Lance sooo....

Kyle making defensive excuses. "Lots of teams run that play. Its a normal play." Not when you have a premium asset trying to finally get some snaps in his NFL career. Only a moron would put a player like that in a position to get hurt and be 2 years behind when he finally got healthy. Kyle is too stubborn and proud to ever learn.

Google "Fire Shanahan Falcons". Some things never change. They had a petition to fire him. He is too arrogant to change or learn.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
almost as if Shanny ran TL without regard to potential injury

He ran a zone read. Wow how dare he….

It was a QB counter trey blocking scheme designed run, no zone scheme

It's zone read, if #10 chases down Lance gives to McCloud

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) September 18, 2022

the backside guard and tackle pulled, that doesn't happen with inside zone blocking, the other lineman blocked down, there was no zone blocking in this play... it was a play for a qb run all the way

odd.... it happened a couple of plays before.... on a zone read.....

Trey has been injured in 50% of his starts. But Kyle wanted to move on from JG because he could not stay healthy.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
almost as if Shanny ran TL without regard to potential injury

He ran a zone read. Wow how dare he….

It was a QB counter trey blocking scheme designed run, no zone scheme

It's zone read, if #10 chases down Lance gives to McCloud

— Jordan Elliott (@splash_cousin) September 18, 2022

the backside guard and tackle pulled, that doesn't happen with inside zone blocking, the other lineman blocked down, there was no zone blocking in this play... it was a play for a qb run all the way

odd.... it happened a couple of plays before.... on a zone read.....

You guys can argue semantics but the bottom line is he got Trey injured with too many runs in AZ last year, he let Trey absorb punishment v Chicago last week and now he killed Trey for the year. He effed up. Period.

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:
Trey has been injured in 50% of his starts. But Kyle wanted to move on from JG because he could not stay healthy.

Health wasn't the reason they wanted to move on from Jimmy G. It was Jimmy's lower % chance of becoming an explosive big play QB that they wanted to move on from him. Health was just the reason to go and get Lance in a year there were good QB prospects, and it paid off for them last year when Lance played in a couple games and helped them get a key win late in the year. It will hopefully pay off in 2023 when Lance returns to play.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle got to see what Trey was capable of passing the ball and clearly made the decision that he needed to run more than pass. At least that's how I take it

At this stage, sure. Not to the end of time.

Yeah. I'm not giving up on Trey I can just understand why Kyle would use Trey as a runner currently

likely Shanny has watched him have issues passing the ball, and to keep an offense on rhythm he decided Trey has to run the ball.

Had Trey passed the ball all over camp, and the preseason.... He would likely be throwing the ball more during the regular season.

At this point in his career Trey has accuracy issues, It would not shock me to find out trey was forced to play to early to satisfy ownership/management.

The version of Trey we saw this season was likely the NFL effective version. I don't think Trey could have keep the defenses honest with his current passing ability in a traditional offense. I think the offense needed his x-factor/gadget calls to be effective.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle got to see what Trey was capable of passing the ball and clearly made the decision that he needed to run more than pass. At least that's how I take it

At this stage, sure. Not to the end of time.

Yeah. I'm not giving up on Trey I can just understand why Kyle would use Trey as a runner currently

likely Shanny has watched him have issues passing the ball, and to keep an offense on rhythm he decided Trey has to run the ball.

Had Trey passed the ball all over camp, and the preseason.... He would likely be throwing the ball more during the regular season.

At this point in his career Trey has accuracy issues, It would not shock me to find out trey was forced to play to early to satisfy ownership/management.

The version of Trey we saw this season was likely the NFL effective version. I don't think Trey could have keep the defenses honest with his current passing ability in a traditional offense. I think the offense needed his x-factor/gadget calls to be effective.

That is purely opinion and not fact. We didn't see him pass much in the pre-season and when he did he wasn't bad. If the kid can't pass, the team could have coaching/preparation issues.

If Trey truly cannot pass that well than Shanny drafted poorly. Why mortgage the farm on a kid with such limited experience, in the FCS to boot.

All of these issues are on Shanahan because he is the coach. If the team can't coach him up, bad coaching or if he is uncoachable, bad draft pick.

Kyle is his worst own enemy. He can't get out of his way and that's why team are never out of it. Seattle is one of the worst teams in this league yet for a second there they had all the momentum to come back and take over the game. Why ? Because Kyle got cute calling shotgun plays from the one yard line, sticking with same old run run pass theme he's been doing for years with a 3 point lead, and oh yeah…. absolutely no heart or trust for his team to go for it on 4th down.

somebody posted in the gameday thread last week that Denver's coach was the stupidest person on the planet for taking the ball out of Wilson's hands at game's end and attempting a 65 yard FG….and questioned why ppl thought Kyle was dumb. To which I replied, "if Kyle was in that same exact position, he would've probably punted".

shame on him

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Kyle got to see what Trey was capable of passing the ball and clearly made the decision that he needed to run more than pass. At least that's how I take it

At this stage, sure. Not to the end of time.

Yeah. I'm not giving up on Trey I can just understand why Kyle would use Trey as a runner currently

likely Shanny has watched him have issues passing the ball, and to keep an offense on rhythm he decided Trey has to run the ball.

Had Trey passed the ball all over camp, and the preseason.... He would likely be throwing the ball more during the regular season.

At this point in his career Trey has accuracy issues, It would not shock me to find out trey was forced to play to early to satisfy ownership/management.

The version of Trey we saw this season was likely the NFL effective version. I don't think Trey could have keep the defenses honest with his current passing ability in a traditional offense. I think the offense needed his x-factor/gadget calls to be effective.

The idea was that as the season went along and Trey got more playing time the passing game would open up more. They needed to play Lance for him to progress whether he was ready or not, because that's the way the NFL works now - QBs do not get the luxury of sitting behind a vet for more than a year, and even that is unusual.

So, yes, they were keeping things simpler for Lance, with more runs overall, in order to bring him along. Today was his 5th start in the last four years. To say he's raw is to state the obvious. Thing is, even with that rawness and a 2:1 run:pass ratio the kid was playing pretty well. He was calm out there, guiding the offense, and running things well. There's no reason to think he can't return and continue to progress from where he left off, as he'll still be 23 a year from now, which is younger than most QBs coming out in the 2023 draft.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Kyle is his worst own enemy. He can't get out of his way and that's why team are never out of it. Seattle is one of the worst teams in this league yet for a second there they had all the momentum to come back and take over the game. Why ? Because Kyle got cute calling shotgun plays from the one yard line, sticking with same old run run pass theme he's been doing for years with a 3 point lead, and oh yeah…. absolutely no heart or trust for his team to go for it on 4th down.

somebody posted in the gameday thread last week that Denver's coach was the stupidest person on the planet for taking the ball out of Wilson's hands at game's end and attempting a 65 yard FG….and questioned why ppl thought Kyle was dumb. To which I replied, "if Kyle was in that same exact position, he would've probably punted".

shame on him

Literally went for it on 4th and 8 at midfield today.

When you're up 20-0 in the RZ on 4th down right after the Center fumbled the ball, you kick the FG. You don't expect it to be blocked for a TD.

Originally posted by captveg:
Literally went for it on 4th and 8 at midfield today.

When you're up 20-0 in the RZ on 4th down right after the Center fumbled the ball, you kick the FG. You don't expect it to be blocked for a TD.

Exactly, this is a no brainer decision. This place after game day brings out some real head scratcher comments.