Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by jcs:
Maybe not a better playcaller but right now he's a better HC.
Talented roster and having a decade plus HC controlling 33% of the game will do that for you.
Yeah that and coaching...
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49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:37 PM
- jcs
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Yeah that and coaching...
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:38 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by jcs:Maybe not a better playcaller but right now he's a better HC.
I think John Lynch should be the hc and bump this dude down to oc. This team needs discipline.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:38 PM
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I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:41 PM
- captveg
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Originally posted by Follower:I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.
Those last five were for me for not blocking you months ago.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:41 PM
- AlexCat49er
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Originally posted by Niners816:2-14.....40 new players. That's an expansion team. And you have no clue what McVay would do with us, is he bringing wade Phillips? He's not a better playcaller than Kyle.
They only have 30 new players. That's a lot of turnover, but hardly an expansion team. I know that McVay would be doing better, because he is a better coach.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:43 PM
- Niners816
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Originally posted by Follower:I'd take McVay every single time and twice on Sundays.... KS is overmatched and completely out of his element.... certainly, he can improve, but he's not a guy that's very self aware, so I wouldn't hold my breathe.... "just build a dynasty and he'll be ok" is an acceptable theory, I guess.... but it's the players that will make him look better than he is.... not the other way around.
Again you are basing this on b******t....what part of 4 losses by 11 points, 2 being in OT and 3 being on the road are you missing. Coaches out classed with a talent-devoid roster does not do this. Not now, not ever. Whatever, this whole discussion is a f**king joke.....again, making grand proclaimations of a guy based on 5 f**king games. It shows how novice your following of football is.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:44 PM
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This is about the 3rd year straight were I heard we had an expansion team's worth of talent. I can't disagree with that but here's an idea bring in some talent then. Enough with the it's year 1 you can't spend in year 1.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Oct 8, 2017 at 7:45 PM ]
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:44 PM
- Niners816
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Originally posted by AlexCat49er:They only have 30 new players. That's a lot of turnover, but hardly an expansion team. I know that McVay would be doing better, because he is a better coach.
No...no he's not.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:48 PM
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Chip crappy Kelly won 2 games last season.
I would really begin to worry if Shanahan can't win more than 2 games this season.
He and Lynch had full free reins and all the cap room in the world to do absolutely what they wanted with personnel. They got rid of just about everyone and pulled in their own choice of players. And if they still can't win more than what Chip Kelly did then they have a problem.
I would really begin to worry if Shanahan can't win more than 2 games this season.
He and Lynch had full free reins and all the cap room in the world to do absolutely what they wanted with personnel. They got rid of just about everyone and pulled in their own choice of players. And if they still can't win more than what Chip Kelly did then they have a problem.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:49 PM
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Chip crappy Kelly won 2 games last season.
I would really begin to worry if Shanahan can't win more than 2 games this season.
He and Lynch had full free reins and all the cap room in the world to do absolutely what they wanted with personnel. They got rid of just about everyone and pulled in their own choice of players. And if they still can't win more than what Chip Kelly did then they have a problem.
this was the coach you wanted Rascal.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:50 PM
- captveg
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Originally posted by tjd808185:This is about the 3rd year straight were I heard we had an expansion team's worth of talent. I can't disagree with that but here's an idea bring in some talent then. Enough with the it's year 1 you can't spend in year 1.
They did bring in talent this year. All new WR group, new FB, new interior OGs, new TE, new PR/KRs, new LBs, new DL, new DE.
They turned over 35 players of the roster.
Problem is you can't get 35 blue chip super stars in one offseaaon, either. That talent cupboard was BARE.
[ Edited by captveg on Oct 8, 2017 at 7:55 PM ]
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:51 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by AlexCat49er:They only have 30 new players. That's a lot of turnover, but hardly an expansion team. I know that McVay would be doing better, because he is a better coach.
He has a better QB, better WRs overall, better RB and his OL is better...I'd hope he'd have a better offense then we have just based on personnel.
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:51 PM
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He is the coach I wanted and still want. I just wish he was more of a disciplinarian with the penalties we keep committing.
[ Edited by TexasGuero49 on Oct 8, 2017 at 7:52 PM ]
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:53 PM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Rascal:Chip crappy Kelly won 2 games last season.
I would really begin to worry if Shanahan can't win more than 2 games this season.
He and Lynch had full free reins and all the cap room in the world to do absolutely what they wanted with personnel. They got rid of just about everyone and pulled in their own choice of players. And if they still can't win more than what Chip Kelly did then they have a problem.
Their choice of players? Like they can just have whomever they wanted in FA lol...go look at most of the people they brought in and their contracts outside of garçon and smith they're all one yr deals.
This team wasn't made over in 6 months
Oct 8, 2017 at 7:53 PM
- AlexCat49er
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Originally posted by Niners816:No...no he's not.
Ok. I admit it is a subjective assessment. The only objective measure of a coach we can really go by is their record. McVay is 3-2 and Shanahan is 0-5. Maybe that measurement will favor Shanahan in a few years (if he lasts that long), but right now it is heavily slanted towards McVay.
[ Edited by AlexCat49er on Oct 8, 2017 at 7:54 PM ]