49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Dude has 1 winning season in 5 years but let's keep him around and keep losing. The York way

This is literally the York way. They have realized they can cheap out on every aspect of football, and still turn a profit every year just off the "hope" of being good . They call fans the "faithful" lmao because we are suckers to this scam. None of this will change until fans boycott buying tickets and merchandise

Originally posted by Jcool:
You just don't want to have to blame coaching. We have enough talent to win, Shanahan is not getting the job done.

I'm blaming the coach/FO and the roster they've throwing out there.

Yeah you're right a collection of this on defense is great....

DJ/Norman/Mosely/Kirkpatrick/KW/TH/Wilson...this was probably one of the worst secondary's that was out on the field this Sunday.

We have two UDFAs next to Warner for LBers. One was a safety last yr.

Our DL, which is suppose to be our strength...has Bosa/AA and a bunch of guys that have either been cut previously, are UDFAs, or late day 3 picks. bunch of turds.

How is that a good roster? Who the f**k thinks Tom Compton (who's played guard most of his career) is a quality swing tackle? If not for Kyle that dude wouldn't be in the league right now.

What did we improve upon in the off season? We upgrade from bottom of the league at center to an over the hill Alex Mack? That's their big move lol? This was never a great roster overall...let alone a "super bowl roster" like some thought. It's a damn joke.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Dude has 1 winning season in 5 years but let's keep him around and keep losing. The York way

I'd say 1 winning season in 3 years. 2 of those years don't count. The first year and last year. This year is totally on him. He has all his weapons. The O looks decent, but not to the standard we were expecting and the D is just awful.

Trey better be the savior. I feel so bad for the kid, but who knows maybe going all-in was the right move and we don't see it yet.

I know this team has had a ton of injuries in recent years but other teams have them too. Look at yesterday's game. The Cards were missing their young , dynamic play making QB, their best WR and one of their best pass rushers. Most of us were thinking it looked like a Niner win based on all their injuries and our players coming back.

Instead, the Cards put in a journeyman QB and outplayed the 49ers in nearly every phase of the game. They didn't use injuries as an excuse to lay down and lose. McCoy was able to move around and make plays when the 49ers got pressure on him while Jimmy was a statue in the pocket and got creamed. I don't know why they didn't start moving the pocket and letting Jimmy rollout a little after McGlinchey got hurt and it became obvious that we couldn't block them. They kept doing straight drops with no running game.

We got out coached, outplayed and probably knocked out of the playoffs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You just don't want to have to blame coaching. We have enough talent to win, Shanahan is not getting the job done.

I'm blaming the coach/FO and the roster they've throwing out there.

Yeah you're right a collection of this on defense is great....

DJ/Norman/Mosely/Kirkpatrick/KW/TH/Wilson...this was probably one of the worst secondary's that was out on the field this Sunday.

We have two UDFAs next to Warner for LBers. One was a safety last yr.

Our DL, which is suppose to be our strength...has Bosa/AA and a bunch of guys that have either been cut previously, are UDFAs, or late day 3 picks. bunch of turds.

How is that a good roster? Who the f**k thinks Tom Compton (who's played guard most of his career) is a quality swing tackle? If not for Kyle that dude wouldn't be in the league right now.

What did we improve upon in the off season? We upgrade from bottom of the league at center to an over the hill Alex Mack? That's their big move lol? This was never a great roster overall...let alone a "super bowl roster" like some thought. It's a damn joke.

To be fair, when healthy I think this roster is pretty solid. At minimum playoff potential but may have enough for a Super Bowl run.

You've gone over the major issues, which I think are a 2021 draft class that is a ghost, signing bad veterans and expecting historically injury prone players to somehow not be injury prone. Also whatever the hell Kyle did with Aiyuk for half the season.

For me personally, Kyle first needs to give up some responsibility.

That's the 1st hurdle. It will require Kyle swallowing his pride and Ego for the better of the team.

If he can do that, I'd give him another year with Trey as his starter to right the ship.

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You just don't want to have to blame coaching. We have enough talent to win, Shanahan is not getting the job done.

I'm blaming the coach/FO and the roster they've throwing out there.

Yeah you're right a collection of this on defense is great....

DJ/Norman/Mosely/Kirkpatrick/KW/TH/Wilson...this was probably one of the worst secondary's that was out on the field this Sunday.

We have two UDFAs next to Warner for LBers. One was a safety last yr.

Our DL, which is suppose to be our strength...has Bosa/AA and a bunch of guys that have either been cut previously, are UDFAs, or late day 3 picks. bunch of turds.

How is that a good roster? Who the f**k thinks Tom Compton (who's played guard most of his career) is a quality swing tackle? If not for Kyle that dude wouldn't be in the league right now.

What did we improve upon in the off season? We upgrade from bottom of the league at center to an over the hill Alex Mack? That's their big move lol? This was never a great roster overall...let alone a "super bowl roster" like some thought. It's a damn joke.

To be fair, when healthy I think this roster is pretty solid. At minimum playoff potential but may have enough for a Super Bowl run.

You've gone over the major issues, which I think are a 2021 draft class that is a ghost, signing bad veterans and expecting historically injury prone players to somehow not be injury prone. Also whatever the hell Kyle did with Aiyuk for half the season.

They don't bro. This isn't a super bowl roster when healthy

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jcool:
You just don't want to have to blame coaching. We have enough talent to win, Shanahan is not getting the job done.

I'm blaming the coach/FO and the roster they've throwing out there.

Yeah you're right a collection of this on defense is great....

DJ/Norman/Mosely/Kirkpatrick/KW/TH/Wilson...this was probably one of the worst secondary's that was out on the field this Sunday.

We have two UDFAs next to Warner for LBers. One was a safety last yr.

Our DL, which is suppose to be our strength...has Bosa/AA and a bunch of guys that have either been cut previously, are UDFAs, or late day 3 picks. bunch of turds.

How is that a good roster? Who the f**k thinks Tom Compton (who's played guard most of his career) is a quality swing tackle? If not for Kyle that dude wouldn't be in the league right now.

What did we improve upon in the off season? We upgrade from bottom of the league at center to an over the hill Alex Mack? That's their big move lol? This was never a great roster overall...let alone a "super bowl roster" like some thought. It's a damn joke.

the failure to improve the left side of the o line over the last 3 years is astonishing. Compton should even be in the league much less coming in at RT. Still hasn't upgraded Brunskill. And we will need to get another Center to replace Mack.

I've always supported Kyle and believed we hit the jackpot when we hired him as our headcoach, but at this point, It's Inexcusable to make excuses for the way his team Is performing. Yesterday's performance was an embarrassment and Kyle should be held fully responsible for the teams lack of success. It honestly feels as though the team Is poorly coached from top to bottom, and that starts with the headcoach...

We're on the verge on another losing season. 1-4 winning/losing seasons. Ouch. That's bad whichever you look at It.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I've always supported Kyle and believed we hit the jackpot when we hired him as our headcoach, but at this point, It's Inexcusable to make excuses for the way his team Is performing. Yesterday's performance was an embarrassment and Kyle should be held fully responsible for the teams lack of success. It honestly feels as though the team Is poorly coached from top to bottom, and that starts with the headcoach...

We're on the verge on another losing season. 1-4 winning/losing seasons. Ouch. That's bad whichever you look at It.

Look who they beat. The Bears, Lions and Eagles. The Bears and Lions are 2 of the worst franchises in the league.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I've always supported Kyle and believed we hit the jackpot when we hired him as our headcoach, but at this point, It's Inexcusable to make excuses for the way his team Is performing. Yesterday's performance was an embarrassment and Kyle should be held fully responsible for the teams lack of success. It honestly feels as though the team Is poorly coached from top to bottom, and that starts with the headcoach...

We're on the verge on another losing season. 1-4 winning/losing seasons. Ouch. That's bad whichever you look at It.

I think it's even harder to comprehend what is going on when we've all seen flashes of high quality play. We've seen Aiyuk be a stud, we've seen Kittle take over games, we've seen Samuel grinding out YAC, we've seen the run game dominate, it's all been there. But it has also been consistently inconsistent. At some point that falls on the coach.

I'm honestly not sure what I would like to see from this team at this point. I think the offensive side of the ball is just fine and can play at a high level. The defense is in shambles, in part due to injury and part due to bad personnel decisions. This season is in all likelihood lost. Suppose at this point I would like to see the young guys get playing time and see some improvement in the defensive side of the ball. If the defense can't start showing marginal improvement through the rest of the season it might be a good idea to end the Ryans experiment.

I a I was a big fan of the hiring of both Shanahan and Lynch. However, things have not been trending in the right direction and the draft results are absolutely abysmal. Think of it this way… when is the last time the 49ers be a team that was more or equally talented? When is the last time they won a game when the were the "underdog" according to the line??
For me, this is the biggest indictment on the Shanahan era. He may be a "genius" when it comes to play design, but I have not actually seen those play designs result in points consistently.

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I've always supported Kyle and believed we hit the jackpot when we hired him as our headcoach, but at this point, It's Inexcusable to make excuses for the way his team Is performing. Yesterday's performance was an embarrassment and Kyle should be held fully responsible for the teams lack of success. It honestly feels as though the team Is poorly coached from top to bottom, and that starts with the headcoach...

We're on the verge on another losing season. 1-4 winning/losing seasons. Ouch. That's bad whichever you look at It.

I think it's even harder to comprehend what is going on when we've all seen flashes of high quality play. We've seen Aiyuk be a stud, we've seen Kittle take over games, we've seen Samuel grinding out YAC, we've seen the run game dominate, it's all been there. But it has also been consistently inconsistent. At some point that falls on the coach.

I'm honestly not sure what I would like to see from this team at this point. I think the offensive side of the ball is just fine and can play at a high level. The defense is in shambles, in part due to injury and part due to bad personnel decisions. This season is in all likelihood lost. Suppose at this point I would like to see the young guys get playing time and see some improvement in the defensive side of the ball. If the defense can't start showing marginal improvement through the rest of the season it might be a good idea to end the Ryans experiment.

THE problem is .... we have a couple of very good players but they are not used the right way... it's a freakin GIMMICK OFFENSE and I have been posting this for 3 years now... YUCK finally had a good game, and that's because he was allowed to compete...

we played one of the WEAKEST team agains the RUSH, and if not mistaken, did we not run the ball less than 15 times ???

When a coach can not GAME PLAN around his opponent, that alone tells you that he should not be a HC !!

Originally posted by JoeBart324:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
I've always supported Kyle and believed we hit the jackpot when we hired him as our headcoach, but at this point, It's Inexcusable to make excuses for the way his team Is performing. Yesterday's performance was an embarrassment and Kyle should be held fully responsible for the teams lack of success. It honestly feels as though the team Is poorly coached from top to bottom, and that starts with the headcoach...

We're on the verge on another losing season. 1-4 winning/losing seasons. Ouch. That's bad whichever you look at It.

I think it's even harder to comprehend what is going on when we've all seen flashes of high quality play. We've seen Aiyuk be a stud, we've seen Kittle take over games, we've seen Samuel grinding out YAC, we've seen the run game dominate, it's all been there. But it has also been consistently inconsistent. At some point that falls on the coach.

I'm honestly not sure what I would like to see from this team at this point. I think the offensive side of the ball is just fine and can play at a high level. The defense is in shambles, in part due to injury and part due to bad personnel decisions. This season is in all likelihood lost. Suppose at this point I would like to see the young guys get playing time and see some improvement in the defensive side of the ball. If the defense can't start showing marginal improvement through the rest of the season it might be a good idea to end the Ryans experiment.

i hear you b/c we see the talent but at what point will this actually happen? Year 7? This offense has yet to play a complete game this year. Putting up points against Chicago and Detroit mean nothing. Both teams are total trash. when will the offense help out the s**t show defense and not fumble the game away? it's way too much talent for the offense to be so inconsistent. I'm nost sure how the defensive can possibly show any improvement. We have 1 pass rusher, FW isn't playing well, and the entire secondary is trash. Only way to improve is if the players step it up. I just dont' see the talent. And with a rookie DC it's even more amplified b/c he's learning on the job. And what vet presence to we have mentoring Ryans? He just started coaching 4 years ago.

One thing I don't like about Kyle's play calling is that he doesn't seem able to change things up very well. We never see him go up tempo for awhile in an effort to slow the pass rush or throw off the defense. When they started pressuring Jimmy he didn't move the pocket and let him roll out like McCoy did. Straight drops with Jimmy getting trapped. I'd like to see a few more shots down the field so the defense can't clog the middle. He sometimes abandons the running game quickly like he did yesterday. The running game is what makes the short passing game work. He knows that so it's a mystery why he gives up on it.

These are just a few things that I see that baffle me about Kyle's play calling. One of the things that made Walsh so great was his ability to adapt and change things up if it became necessary. Once in awhile he would do an entire series with no huddle. Sometimes he would run when the game seemed to call for passing. He would pull out a trick play and then file it away just to let teams know it was a possibility. Kyle needs to do some of this.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
One thing I don't like about Kyle's play calling is that he doesn't seem able to change things up very well. We never see him go up tempo for awhile in an effort to slow the pass rush or throw off the defense. When they started pressuring Jimmy he didn't move the pocket and let him roll out like McCoy did. Straight drops with Jimmy getting trapped. I'd like to see a few more shots down the field so the defense can't clog the middle. He sometimes abandons the running game quickly like he did yesterday. The running game is what makes the short passing game work. He knows that so it's a mystery why he gives up on it.

These are just a few things that I see that baffle me about Kyle's play calling. One of the things that made Walsh so great was his ability to adapt and change things up if it became necessary. Once in awhile he would do an entire series with no huddle. Sometimes he would run when the game seemed to call for passing. He would pull out a trick play and then file it away just to let teams know it was a possibility. Kyle needs to do some of this.

The problem with so many here is that they made Shanny bigger than what he is..