49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
According to NFL Football Stats, Team Ranking (link below), so far in 2019, the Niners have a 42.86% of scoring TDs when in the redzone. This is 27th of all NFL teams after three games. Last year, the team had redzone TDs of 41.18% through 16 games. That was last in the NFL. Of the great job the offense does in moving the ball between the twenties, redzone TDs still seem to be something to improve upon. In the Steelers games, chances for scoring died due to poor player execution and fumbles. Still, perhaps this is still an issue for Kyle to work on.

Wilson has provided better redzone running, but will he be active when Coleman returns?
Why doesn't Juice run the short yardage plays?
Why do few of the Niners passes from the redzone attack the endzone itself?
Are redzone plays too concerned with trickery?
Do complex plays cause the offense to tense up when near the goalline?
Does the team need even more redzone work although it was emphasized during training camp?

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

When you turn the ball over 3 times in the redzone that hurts your numbers. Also had penalties negate multiple touchdowns. The plays are there, they just have to execute and not turn it over. No change is needed.

This. Execution by the players

As the reps increase between Jimmy and his team around him, and it's now passed the 3rd game of the season, I expect those mistakes to clear out and we should have as mistake free football as possible. Precision and timing offense always take a couple of games to get in synch and gear up to what their true abilities are during the season. So far, even with all the mistakes, this looks like a much better team than last years.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
According to NFL Football Stats, Team Ranking (link below), so far in 2019, the Niners have a 42.86% of scoring TDs when in the redzone. This is 27th of all NFL teams after three games. Last year, the team had redzone TDs of 41.18% through 16 games. That was last in the NFL. Of the great job the offense does in moving the ball between the twenties, redzone TDs still seem to be something to improve upon. In the Steelers games, chances for scoring died due to poor player execution and fumbles. Still, perhaps this is still an issue for Kyle to work on.

Wilson has provided better redzone running, but will he be active when Coleman returns?
Why doesn't Juice run the short yardage plays?
Why do few of the Niners passes from the redzone attack the endzone itself?
Are redzone plays too concerned with trickery?
Do complex plays cause the offense to tense up when near the goalline?
Does the team need even more redzone work although it was emphasized during training camp?

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

When you turn the ball over 3 times in the redzone that hurts your numbers. Also had penalties negate multiple touchdowns. The plays are there, they just have to execute and not turn it over. No change is needed.

The 49ers had 6 red zone TDs (4 by Wilson, Pettis, Deebo). 42.86% means a total of 8 failed drives that reached the EZ. These are:

@Tampa:
Q1, 2nd&5, on Tampa 8: Holding call negates TD - FG.
Q2, 1st&10 on Tampa 18: 1st Holding call moved offense to TAM 22, 2nd holding call negated TD - FG

@CIN:
Q2: 2&10 on CIN 15: 0:06 before end of half, FG
Q3: 3rd&2 on CIN 20: incomplete pass, barely in EZ - FG
Q4: 1st&10 on CIN 15: TFL for -6 yards, gets out of RZ, running out of clock - FG

vs PIT
Q2: 2nd&7 on PIT 25: Mosters fumbles on PIT 15, PIT recovers on PIT 9.
Q2: 2nd&Goal on PIT 7: fumble, recovered by PIT
Q4: 3rd&Goal on PIT 7: aborted snap, recovered by PIT

In summary,
- 2 were fumbles
- one play was from outside of RZ, turned over in the RZ
- 2 were TDs negated by penalties
- one at the end of halftime
- one was 3rd down on the 20
- one was garbage time running down the clock that moved the ball out of the RZ

All of the failed drives are either RZ possessions only by strict definition (barely in RZ, garbage time, end of half) or high-variance outcome (penalty, fumble) all turning bad.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
According to NFL Football Stats, Team Ranking (link below), so far in 2019, the Niners have a 42.86% of scoring TDs when in the redzone. This is 27th of all NFL teams after three games. Last year, the team had redzone TDs of 41.18% through 16 games. That was last in the NFL. Of the great job the offense does in moving the ball between the twenties, redzone TDs still seem to be something to improve upon. In the Steelers games, chances for scoring died due to poor player execution and fumbles. Still, perhaps this is still an issue for Kyle to work on.

Wilson has provided better redzone running, but will he be active when Coleman returns?
Why doesn't Juice run the short yardage plays?
Why do few of the Niners passes from the redzone attack the endzone itself?
Are redzone plays too concerned with trickery?
Do complex plays cause the offense to tense up when near the goalline?
Does the team need even more redzone work although it was emphasized during training camp?

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

When you turn the ball over 3 times in the redzone that hurts your numbers. Also had penalties negate multiple touchdowns. The plays are there, they just have to execute and not turn it over. No change is needed.

I agree, it Is fine, just needs a little fine tuning. Wilson is better because, will is not just strong with lower center of gravity, but who will block for him, Juice is not as nimble either. Plus having Juice block also has the added advantage of him leaking out and getting lose by the opposing D.

The reason red zone becomes harder, especially using passing is that the field is shorter and real estate is tighter, so everything has to be quick strike whether running or passing. Using one or the other to cause a slight hesitation to slightly open up space.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Someone pointed it out in the other thread: this team is fast as f**k on all sides of the ball. Kyle has to very pleased with what he and Lynch have built.

I remember Lynch saying initially sometime after being hired that they would put a team together that the fans could be proud of...and so they have.

I love watching all sides of the ball on the current rendition of this team.

I don't see red zone as a problem right now. It's one thing if we were kicking field goals every time it's just some knuckle head plays. That can easily be cleaned up.

Originally posted by Crown:

Imagine your dad is an NFL legend and you're just like "dad - watch - no hands"

Killing the game

Congrats son, that's my playbook

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Someone pointed it out in the other thread: this team is fast as f**k on all sides of the ball. Kyle has to very pleased with what he and Lynch have built.

I remember Lynch saying initially sometime after being hired that they would put a team together that the fans could be proud of...and so they have.

I love watching all sides of the ball on the current rendition of this team.

Now they have. That whole Reuben Foster thing....not so much.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Someone pointed it out in the other thread: this team is fast as f**k on all sides of the ball. Kyle has to very pleased with what he and Lynch have built.

#1 on their list.

The 49er Way:
Talent: Speed, Toughness/Physicality, Position Specific Athletic Traits & Scheme Fit
Spirit: Football Passion; Do they Love it?, Contagious Competiveness, Dependability; Protect the Team, Mental Toughness, Football IQ & Accountability to other Players and Themselves

4th offense in total yards. 5th in scoring And Kyle still doesn't have his full complimentary receivers back from injuries

Kyle will blow the doors off the NFL.

#ShanaManStormComing

This entire season just relies on Health, which so far the team has had enough depth to overcome.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Someone pointed it out in the other thread: this team is fast as f**k on all sides of the ball. Kyle has to very pleased with what he and Lynch have built.

Our opposition so far is only 1-8. . . not good. But here's some stat comparison. I was bored.

Tampa's offense averages 239 passing yards and 122 rushing yards. We held them to 174 passing yards (72% of their average) and 121 rushing yards (99%).
-Tampas defense gives up 261 passing yards and 70 rushing yards. We only threw for 158 passing yards (60%) and rushed for 98 (140%)

Cinci's offense averages 308 passing yards and 42 rushing yards. We held them to 291 passing yards (94%) and 25 rushing (59%)
-Cinci's defense gives up 238 passing yards and 169 rushing yards. We passed for 312 (131%) and rushed for 259 (153%)

Pitt's offense averages 205 passing yards and 64 rushing yards. We held them to 160 passing yards (78%) and gave up 79 rushing yards (123%)
-Pitt's defense gives up 302 passing yards and 139 rushing yards. We put up 268 passing yards (89%), and rushed for 168 (120%)

Of the 12 total stat comparisons listed, we were better than the averages on nine of them. Our passing game against tampa and pitt, and our rush defense against pitt didn't meet the averages.

When looking at this super super simple comparison, we are above average compared to these eight teams (tampa, Cinci, pitt, carolina, ny giants, buffalo, seattle, and the pats)

also of note, SF and seattle share a game against pittsburg. our yardage stats are very similar. This fails to take into account that we turned the ball over five times, and it also fails to take into account that seattle played against big ben for a portion of their game.

/cheers

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Our opposition so far is only 1-8. . . not good. But here's some stat comparison. I was bored.

Tampa's offense averages 239 passing yards and 122 rushing yards. We held them to 174 passing yards (72% of their average) and 121 rushing yards (99%).
-Tampas defense gives up 261 passing yards and 70 rushing yards. We only threw for 158 passing yards (60%) and rushed for 98 (140%)

Cinci's offense averages 308 passing yards and 42 rushing yards. We held them to 291 passing yards (94%) and 25 rushing (59%)
-Cinci's defense gives up 238 passing yards and 169 rushing yards. We passed for 312 (131%) and rushed for 259 (153%)

Pitt's offense averages 205 passing yards and 64 rushing yards. We held them to 160 passing yards (78%) and gave up 79 rushing yards (123%)
-Pitt's defense gives up 302 passing yards and 139 rushing yards. We put up 268 passing yards (89%), and rushed for 168 (120%)

Of the 12 total stat comparisons listed, we were better than the averages on nine of them. Our passing game against tampa and pitt, and our rush defense against pitt didn't meet the averages.

When looking at this super super simple comparison, we are above average compared to these eight teams (tampa, Cinci, pitt, carolina, ny giants, buffalo, seattle, and the pats)

also of note, SF and seattle share a game against pittsburg. our yardage stats are very similar. This fails to take into account that we turned the ball over five times, and it also fails to take into account that seattle played against big ben for a portion of their game.

/cheers

Interesting. They beat the teams they're supposed to. Isn't that what a good team supposed to do...

Basically us.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:


Basically us.

The rest of the league is doomed