49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Bellaleo:
Lynch is MUCH easier to replace than Kyle. That's why Kyle gets a longer leash.
If it was up to me Kyle stays put until his contract is up or hopefully longer.

lots of good candidates still waiting around for a GM job. I'm shocked that we didn't hire Ron Wolf's son. Think he turned us down or something, can't remember/

Who do you see that is good that is waiting for a job right now?

"Ron Wolf's son?"

His name is Eliot and he is now learning more about the job as an assistant to Cleveland GM John Dorsey.

For the record, he had a chance at the Green Bay job but they did not feel he was qualified. "Obviously the people up there don't think he's worthy or they would've hired him. End of discussion." He spent 13 years in one of the best operations in football and he still wasn't considered competent to be a GM.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21998010/nfl-hall-famer-ron-wolf-talks-son-eliot-being-passed-packers-gm-job

You are welcome to you opinion but supporting it with facts would be helpful to the thread.

He is already years ahead in development over Lynch who is learning to be GM from himself while acting as GM.
No other team in the NFL had any interest in Lynch as a GM or in any player personnel role.

The original point was that E Wolf was not the slam-dunk GM despite his pedigree. Packer brass realized he was nowhere close to being ready and sent him packing. So he winds up in Cleveland via connections there instead of interning in some bank in southern Wisconsin.

As to Lynch; it isn't like he had never seen how a good GM operates. Quite the contrary, as a lead network analyst, he was constantly talking football with GMs and staff as he went around the league. He was not the raw rookie some portrayed him to be. The fact he realized the importance of quality staff around him proved that point.

It is my belief that now that Kyle has had a chance to tweak the coaching staff, we are going to see a much higher level of performance from some of the guys Lynch has brought in.

I'm new here. Been reading stuff on the webzone for years and occasionally reading things in the forums especially draft time. I think there are very talented and knowledgeable people who post on the boards. For the most part. Maybe I'm overly optimistic about this Team Kyle, John and the whole organization. I don't love every move and I believe That Kyle and John have taken the responsibility for some of those bed decisions. IE Foster and to a lesser extent Solomon. ( Still hoping for Sol. To make an impact.) That being said let's give them credit for the good as well. Ie juice, Sherman, Jimmy, Mullens,Warner,Breida,Taylor, Pettis and of course Kittle. Let's not forget that this was never supposed to be rebuilt in a year or two add some critical injuries and yes the team has underwhelmed. But it's no where close to the tomsula.. Kelly days. This team plays hard believe in each other and believe in their coach and GM. It's my opinion that this year will be significantly better and you Kyle haters can go hang out with Grant Cohn who apparently thinks he knows more about offense than Kyle which is a complete embarrassment. Could I be wrong yes. But I'd put good money on saying I'm right. This team is going to be special. I appreciate and respect everyone's opinion as long as they respect mine. Go NINERS..

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Okay, here is why Lynch has done a good job. This is a Kyle thread but Lynch is the one under attack and why he shouldn't be:

IDK, i still feel Lynch was a good choice, and TBH, i had no idea who was best. But we didn't just have a GM problem, or talent acquisition problem. If you will recall, we had almost a 20 yr problem of WTF to do with a team that had no or limited success in 18 yrs, (true 1 SB appearance but that was due to a stacked D that carrried us almost the entire way...who then left, virtually en masse, leaving us with virtually nothing in the cupboards.) When Lynch arrived, to best of my recollection we had a team in tatters, starting at the top, included the entire F.O, all the coaches, HC to all position coaches, and certainly HC and OC, DC...plus no talent. Baalke did leave us with a fairly good chunk of change in cap space,

But guys, we had NO talent. Ok, we had Buck ...and we had Joe S, and , and...well, that was the problem. We had 2 starters, one long in the tooth. So we didn't just need a GM. We needed a GUIDE to get this team completely rebuilt, completely restocked, and then...rebuilt. Not brick by brick but player by player. We had one key player on O, Joe, and one on D, DeFo. We needed 20 starters ...yes 20...and 22 backup or rotational guys.

We had the worst self image of any team in the league...well, except for the hapless Browns. We had bupkis. NADA. NOTHING. So let's not forget that. Going from worst to first is not a 2 yr deal. Or 3. IDK if it take 6 or not. I hope not. But when you look at what we didn't have, it is depressing. And every damn thing needed rebuilding. Yes, HC and OC were critical, but we got that. DC? I don't think so, but we'll see with the new triumvirate at DC.

Worst, we had a F.O that was totally, irreparably, destroyed. Jed nor his folks had no idea WTF to do with this "team". But it was not a team. It was basically a ":franchise " with completely bare cupboards. We couldn't get a HC , let alone position coaches to come here. Who would want it? That is why kyle got 6 yrs. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see this place was a trash heap. And we had a series of 4 HCs in 4 yr to prove it.

Most forget it, but the face of the team had to be completely rebuilt too. With Jed at the top, the team had lapsed into unwatchable, the decisions made were joked about, and the franchise was considered toxic. Recall also JL was hired to come here, evaluate the team, and present a plan to Jed and family about how the franchise would/could be rebuilt. Because we were at the bottom of the league, with nobody under us. We were the laughing stock of the league. A team like that just cannot attract good players because the players could see this was a place where players came to die on the vine. SF 49ers were a nowhere team. And that is what John Lynch was asked to consult on and make suggestions to fix. Kyle had already been hired, and with that, we at least had one savvy football person here.

But he entire F.O had to be replaced, and i mean everybody but the paymaster, paraag. Lynch was a well known personality on TV sports and was known and liked by all. When he was announced as new GM, it was a huge shot in the arm as far as returning us to acceptability. We no longer were the butt of all NFL jokes. He gave us cachet. He made us relevant once again. Sure he had no GM experience, but we didn't have anybody who could sort out and tell Jed how to run a football team.

Remember also, John Elway had taken Lynch aside before he went into TV and taught him how to run a franchise, how to build a team, and how to hire those guys at the top needed to make the team go. Peters and Mayhew would have been welcomed earlier, but i don' think anybody wanted to come here. We were so bad we were radioactive. And football players did not want to be here. Drawing FAs was virtually impossible Only by offering gifts well over market price could we get anyone to come here. Sure JL had never been a GM, but his initial job was way more important than that. First he had to turn Denise's and Jed's entire operation upside down, shake it out and then start anew. Folks and fans forget that. But JL was extremely successful in just 2 short yrs righting the ship...and that was no mean feat. But first, every man jack here had to be replaced. Coaches, GM, and players. Entire F. O. Everything had to go and start over.

Well, somehow JL got that accomplished , and got us back on the rails. HC was easy and already done. GM had to be someone who could rebuild a business first, and then rebuild a team. Done and done. Then came the added expertise of team building or player rebuild. And Mayhew and Peters were added. Kyle is a whiz bang at OCiing the best in the league. HC he has had to learn as he goes. Same for JL but remember he had gotten a huge help along courtesy of Elway who really wanted JL to learn about how to run a football team. So maybe no experience, but he had an excellent tutor.

Fast forward to now and basically 43 guys were let go or fired, and we currently need ER, DB, OG, (OT for pipeline along with another OG), 2 LBs, and another semi #1 WR. The ace, the FR QB, the one hardest part to fill we have...now we have to protect him. ER we are about to get in both FA (2nd tier) and draft (top tier, either Bosa or Allen). Besides 2nd tier ER in FA, we also need 2 starting LBs(one could come from draft), a starting DB (like ET), and a starting OG with another OT in pipeline. Those could be partly in draft also. In draft we get starting ER plus whatever we didn't fill in FA. So if we got 3 starters in FA and all were over the glass ceiling of $10 mil+/yr, then we would have an easy shot at completing the rebuild in draft starting with ER filling whatever we are missing.

For start of yr three, I would say we have made remarkable progress. We just need paraag to loosen the purse strings and get us the 2nd tier ER, and starter LBs plus DB in FA. Get starter OG, DB, LB and WR in draft.

Considering john lynch has rebuilt the team image, actually has GMs calling him for deals, means we are once again back to respectable. Now we have to fill in the missing pieces in FA and draft and secure an experienced DC. Maybe that has already been done, and we will see who DCs for us this yr, with an upgrade if Saleh doesn;t have us looking professional by midseason.

If you read all that, then you will see why John Lynch has done a yeoman's job of rebuilding the franchise and after FA and draft we will see what he came up with for the missing player pieces. The DC thing i expect to be fixed by midseason.

Go niners and thank you, GM Lynch. Helluva job, which i didn't think could be done without having to sell the team and get new owners. This worked out just fine.

Great summary.

Lot of folks miss the fact Lynch had to completely change the culture from the dour Baalke image right down to Joan in accounting. He did that. I, for one, didn't think he could do that as quickly as he did. Now we hear guys like Breida saying the culture is so solid that we could handle a diva if that is what comes down.

All that took a lot of doing.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

I'm w/you guys - Excellent posts!

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

I'm w/you guys - Excellent posts!

Great post pasodoc ! Well thought out and well written.
So, when the rebuttals come, and we know they will, please try a rebuttal longer than 7 words without the word 'suck'.

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

I'm w/you guys - Excellent posts!

Great post pasodoc ! Well thought out and well written.
So, when the rebuttals come, and we know they will, please try a rebuttal longer than 7 words without the word 'suck'.

I can already guess which posters you are referring to.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

I'm w/you guys - Excellent posts!

Great post pasodoc ! Well thought out and well written.
So, when the rebuttals come, and we know they will, please try a rebuttal longer than 7 words without the word 'suck'.

I can already guess which posters you are referring to.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Great post as usual pasodoc!

When the WZ HoF threads come up, you can think of this post!

JT.,thank you for your kind words. It is heartfelt and i believe Lynch has gotten and continues to get a bad rap.

Dj, thanks for reminding folks that JL was not idle those yrs he wasn't playing. His TV presence was as analyst, and in that capacity he met every single HC, DC, OC, owner and either interviewed or discussed most if not all of the important NFL players. Who had a better bird's eye view of the NFL and its workings than Lynch. Same can be said for his understanding of how teams succeeded and how some failed. As a consultant brot in to tell Jed and Denise what needed to be done to save the franchise, they struck gold with Lynch who was the ideal guy to trouble shoot this train wreck. They then asked him to carry out his recommendations...and kyle wanted him also, of course.

And Wyo, welcome to the the 9er web zone.

Post script: Dj also thank you again for reminding those unhappy with the rate of our return to respectability that just 3 yrs ago, this team was irrevocably lost with no hope of getting out of the schidder. Only a brilliant stroke, probably by Denise, saved this franchise, thus saving the team. Her choice of the guy to do it couldn't have been better. As i said, i did not think it possible without getting new owner. I never imagined Denise turning everything over to football people. Or maybe it was Jed. Whoever, it saved the 9ers. Literally everyone should thank Lynch for that.

I'm w/you guys - Excellent posts!

Great posts

Mr. Pasodoc9er, Excellent review and commentary on where this team was and what JL and staff are doing to make it better. Thanks again.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:

Okay, here is why Lynch has done a good job. This is a Kyle thread but Lynch is the one under attack and why he shouldn't be:

IDK, i still feel Lynch was a good choice, and TBH, i had no idea who was best. But we didn't just have a GM problem, or talent acquisition problem. If you will recall, we had almost a 20 yr problem of WTF to do with a team that had no or limited success in 18 yrs, (true 1 SB appearance but that was due to a stacked D that carrried us almost the entire way...who then left, virtually en masse, leaving us with virtually nothing in the cupboards.) When Lynch arrived, to best of my recollection we had a team in tatters, starting at the top, included the entire F.O, all the coaches, HC to all position coaches, and certainly HC and OC, DC...plus no talent. Baalke did leave us with a fairly good chunk of change in cap space,

But guys, we had NO talent. Ok, we had Buck ...and we had Joe S, and , and...well, that was the problem. We had 2 starters, one long in the tooth. So we didn't just need a GM. We needed a GUIDE to get this team completely rebuilt, completely restocked, and then...rebuilt. Not brick by brick but player by player. We had one key player on O, Joe, and one on D, DeFo. We needed 20 starters ...yes 20...and 22 backup or rotational guys.

We had the worst self image of any team in the league...well, except for the hapless Browns. We had bupkis. NADA. NOTHING. So let's not forget that. Going from worst to first is not a 2 yr deal. Or 3. IDK if it take 6 or not. I hope not. But when you look at what we didn't have, it is depressing. And every damn thing needed rebuilding. Yes, HC and OC were critical, but we got that. DC? I don't think so, but we'll see with the new triumvirate at DC.

Worst, we had a F.O that was totally, irreparably, destroyed. Jed nor his folks had no idea WTF to do with this "team". But it was not a team. It was basically a ":franchise " with completely bare cupboards. We couldn't get a HC , let alone position coaches to come here. Who would want it? That is why kyle got 6 yrs. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see this place was a trash heap. And we had a series of 4 HCs in 4 yr to prove it.

Most forget it, but the face of the team had to be completely rebuilt too. With Jed at the top, the team had lapsed into unwatchable, the decisions made were joked about, and the franchise was considered toxic. Recall also JL was hired to come here, evaluate the team, and present a plan to Jed and family about how the franchise would/could be rebuilt. Because we were at the bottom of the league, with nobody under us. We were the laughing stock of the league. A team like that just cannot attract good players because the players could see this was a place where players came to die on the vine. SF 49ers were a nowhere team. And that is what John Lynch was asked to consult on and make suggestions to fix. Kyle had already been hired, and with that, we at least had one savvy football person here.

But he entire F.O had to be replaced, and i mean everybody but the paymaster, paraag. Lynch was a well known personality on TV sports and was known and liked by all. When he was announced as new GM, it was a huge shot in the arm as far as returning us to acceptability. We no longer were the butt of all NFL jokes. He gave us cachet. He made us relevant once again. Sure he had no GM experience, but we didn't have anybody who could sort out and tell Jed how to run a football team.

Remember also, John Elway had taken Lynch aside before he went into TV and taught him how to run a franchise, how to build a team, and how to hire those guys at the top needed to make the team go. Peters and Mayhew would have been welcomed earlier, but i don' think anybody wanted to come here. We were so bad we were radioactive. And football players did not want to be here. Drawing FAs was virtually impossible Only by offering gifts well over market price could we get anyone to come here. Sure JL had never been a GM, but his initial job was way more important than that. First he had to turn Denise's and Jed's entire operation upside down, shake it out and then start anew. Folks and fans forget that. But JL was extremely successful in just 2 short yrs righting the ship...and that was no mean feat. But first, every man jack here had to be replaced. Coaches, GM, and players. Entire F. O. Everything had to go and start over.

Well, somehow JL got that accomplished , and got us back on the rails. HC was easy and already done. GM had to be someone who could rebuild a business first, and then rebuild a team. Done and done. Then came the added expertise of team building or player rebuild. And Mayhew and Peters were added. Kyle is a whiz bang at OCiing the best in the league. HC he has had to learn as he goes. Same for JL but remember he had gotten a huge help along courtesy of Elway who really wanted JL to learn about how to run a football team. So maybe no experience, but he had an excellent tutor.

Fast forward to now and basically 43 guys were let go or fired, and we currently need ER, DB, OG, (OT for pipeline along with another OG), 2 LBs, and another semi #1 WR. The ace, the FR QB, the one hardest part to fill we have...now we have to protect him. ER we are about to get in both FA (2nd tier) and draft (top tier, either Bosa or Allen). Besides 2nd tier ER in FA, we also need 2 starting LBs(one could come from draft), a starting DB (like ET), and a starting OG with another OT in pipeline. Those could be partly in draft also. In draft we get starting ER plus whatever we didn't fill in FA. So if we got 3 starters in FA and all were over the glass ceiling of $10 mil+/yr, then we would have an easy shot at completing the rebuild in draft starting with ER filling whatever we are missing.

For start of yr three, I would say we have made remarkable progress. We just need paraag to loosen the purse strings and get us the 2nd tier ER, and starter LBs plus DB in FA. Get starter OG, DB, LB and WR in draft.

Considering john lynch has rebuilt the team image, actually has GMs calling him for deals, means we are once again back to respectable. Now we have to fill in the missing pieces in FA and draft and secure an experienced DC. Maybe that has already been done, and we will see who DCs for us this yr, with an upgrade if Saleh doesn;t have us looking professional by midseason.

If you read all that, then you will see why John Lynch has done a yeoman's job of rebuilding the franchise and after FA and draft we will see what he came up with for the missing player pieces. The DC thing i expect to be fixed by midseason.

Go niners and thank you, GM Lynch. Helluva job, which i didn't think could be done without having to sell the team and get new owners. This worked out just fine.

Great summary.

Lot of folks miss the fact Lynch had to completely change the culture from the dour Baalke image right down to Joan in accounting. He did that. I, for one, didn't think he could do that as quickly as he did. Now we hear guys like Breida saying the culture is so solid that we could handle a diva if that is what comes down.

All that took a lot of doing.

Yet we are still a talent deprived mediocre 4-6 win team. Nothing changed. We don't even know if our "FQB" is even that. This team is so far away from being anything it's sickening. Trashing Harbs was the dumbest thing this organization has done and they are rightfully paying for it.

Originally posted by highway49:
Mr. Pasodoc9er, Excellent review and commentary on where this team was and what JL and staff are doing to make it better. Thanks again.

Ditto

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Yet we are still a talent deprived mediocre 4-6 win team. Nothing changed. We don't even know if our "FQB" is even that. This team is so far away from being anything it's sickening. Trashing Harbs was the dumbest thing this organization has done and they are rightfully paying for it.

Harbaugh inherited a talented team, Shanny didnt.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Yet we are still a talent deprived mediocre 4-6 win team. Nothing changed. We don't even know if our "FQB" is even that. This team is so far away from being anything it's sickening. Trashing Harbs was the dumbest thing this organization has done and they are rightfully paying for it.

There's no magic wand to fix everything instantly.

It takes time, but so many in this fan base have no patience.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Yet we are still a talent deprived mediocre 4-6 win team. Nothing changed. We don't even know if our "FQB" is even that. This team is so far away from being anything it's sickening. Trashing Harbs was the dumbest thing this organization has done and they are rightfully paying for it.

Well it is a tad difficult to assess last yr with loss of our FR QB and kyles hoped for #1 playmaker in Pettis. That we clear up this yr.

What i didnt like was leaving our QBs virtually unprotected and worse, not even being sorry for not protecting our QBs. I pray that one changes. I do not expect my wish for Saffold (rams OG) to get a competitive offer from us but in a perfect world that is one guy i really want.

Trashing Harbaugh is past hx, but i will say he did way less with a stacked D than he should have. The D was fine. The O...nonexistent. Fault there lies with harbs and nobody else.Again past hx. His unfortunate attachment to Roman was not understandable, and worse it was wrong. This is on harbs all the way. With a multi all Pro D, it was a crime not to get some O going, yet none appeared.

As for deprived mediocre 4-6 W team, that is pretty much what we had, except we didn't do that well. That was all on harbs an his not coming up with an OC who could score points to complement that D. So i was glad to see him gone but not having the foggiest idea who was going to replace him was stupid. That is on Jed. Why he couldn't bring himself to fire Roman was a mystery. The guy knew NO O.

The oddest thing of all is that losing all those games was actually a blessing in that we finally get our Edge, regardless of who it is. Also DBs, LBs, are loaded in FA, but it seems everyone needs one ...or two..or 3. No idea how we do the next 3-4 days, but i will be really let down if we don't get our starter LB, starter DB, and 2nd tier ER. If we nail down all those guys (3), it was a successful FA. If not then i am disappointed along with others. 3 FAs, only 2 of which are starters is NOT breaking the bank.