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Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
What are they going to do with $62 million dollars?

$25-30 million on a FA QB (Cousins), $10-15 million for a top FA WR. So conservatively $35 to $45 mil together.

But if salaries take a jump as projected, two positions could eat up most of that $62 mil quickly. The good news is that they don't have a ton of their own key players becoming FAs next year and most of their players are young and on early contracts. Trouble will begin in a few years if these guys blossom.
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So We is like Well placed to make a run then.

All we gotta do is draft well and then we can PAY for the extra pieces to come together.

Do you think we will go for Cousins for sure?
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
What are they going to do with $62 million dollars?

$25-30 million on a FA QB (Cousins), $10-15 million for a top FA WR. So conservatively $35 to $45 mil together.

But if salaries take a jump as projected, two positions could eat up most of that $62 mil quickly. The good news is that they don't have a ton of their own key players becoming FAs next year and most of their players are young and on early contracts. Trouble will begin in a few years if these guys blossom.

Yep, plus we don't have to front load every deal, like if Cousins is a FA, no guarantee he gets a $25-$30M cap number, he might get a huge signing bonus, but that prorates.

Yeah the only FA next year I see is Hyde, if he busts out in this system, he is a must re-sign. Reid could be as well, but depends on how well he plays, which could lead to SS being a need, also Ward could be up for an extension, he has a $8.526M cap number, which we could lower by extending him.

The only others I see are K'Wuan Williams if he plays well but he should be a RFA, plus if Johnson and/pr Reaser is on the team and plays well at CB and starts. But not many

All our FAs below in 2018:

RB Hyde (UFA)
RB Hightower (UFA)
RB Bibbs (RFA)
RB Mostert (RFA)
WR Ellington (UFA)
WR Smelter (EFA)
TE Paulsen (UFA)
C Kilgore (UFA)
C Barnes (UFA)
OG Fusco (UFA)
OT Gilliam (UFA)
DE Carradine (UFA)
DE Lynch (UFA)
DT Jones (UFA)
OLB Brooks (UFA)
MLB Coyle (UFA)
CB Williams (RFA)
CB Johnson (UFA)
CB Reaser (UFA)
CB Davis (UFA)
CB Iworah (EFA)
SS Reid (UFA)
SS Sunseri (RFA)

Like I said above, guys who could be extended that are under contract for 2018 or longer.

DE Armstead (Has a 5th yr option to be picked up in May of 2018 for 2019)
FS Ward

We could realistically have between $80M and even $100M depending on cuts(Dial, Celek, etc) who are under contract that may be cap cuts this year or next.
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
So We is like Well placed to make a run then.

All we gotta do is draft well and then we can PAY for the extra pieces to come together.

Do you think we will go for Cousins for sure?

Yes, we're set up very well, need to draft well, not overspend or give out crazy structured contracts in FA.

As for Cousins, we likely will if he's a FA, he has till July 15th to sign an extension with WAS, after that, he can't sign until after the season ends, and Cousins would probably rather test the market first, and since he knows KSs system, and loves Kyle, and KS obviously would love to have him, we'd be the top spot IMO.
Ok, confirmed that Dumervil's deal is 2yr $8M, $1M signing bonus, $500K option bonus this year, and $500K GTD in his base.

$2.25M base in 2017, and $2.75M in 2018, $750K per gamers.

$3.375M cap number in 2017(Only 8 games count on his RB)
$4.25M cap number in 2018

Also last UDFA terms.

Donavin Newsom $5K bonus, $25K base GTD
Lorenzo Jerome $8,500 bonus, $7,500 base GTD

Brings the total to $484K in GTD money spent on the initial UDFAs, none to the latest. $102,500 in bonus, and $381,500 in base(KD Cannon's included they're off the hook for the $40K).

Updated Cap Room: $62,140,469
[ Edited by AB81Rules on Jun 18, 2017 at 6:52 PM ]
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
So We is like Well placed to make a run then.

All we gotta do is draft well and then we can PAY for the extra pieces to come together.

Do you think we will go for Cousins for sure?

Yes, we're set up very well, need to draft well, not overspend or give out crazy structured contracts in FA.

As for Cousins, we likely will if he's a FA, he has till July 15th to sign an extension with WAS, after that, he can't sign until after the season ends, and Cousins would probably rather test the market first, and since he knows KSs system, and loves Kyle, and KS obviously would love to have him, we'd be the top spot IMO.


Can't Washington keep tagging Cousins as a no Free Agent
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AB, don't forget to update your salary cap thread.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok, confirmed that Dumervil's deal is 2yr $8M, $1M signing bonus, $500K option bonus this year, and $500K GTD in his base.

$2.25M base in 2017, and $2.75M in 2018, $750K per gamers.

$3.375M cap number in 2017(Only 8 games count on his RB)
$4.25M cap number in 2018

Also last UDFA terms.

Donavin Newsom $5K bonus, $25K base GTD
Lorenzo Jerome $8,500 bonus, $7,500 base GTD

Brings the total to $484K in GTD money spent on the initial UDFAs, none to the latest. $102,500 in bonus, and $381,500 in base(KD Cannon's included they're off the hook for the $40K).

Updated Cap Room: $62,140,469

Thank you...what do you have on:
G Brandon Fusco - Signed to a X year, $X deal
C Tim Barnes - Signed to a X year, $X deal
CB Will Davis - Signed to a 1-year deal
T Andrew Lauderdale - Signed to a 1-yrR deal
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok, confirmed that Dumervil's deal is 2yr $8M, $1M signing bonus, $500K option bonus this year, and $500K GTD in his base.

$2.25M base in 2017, and $2.75M in 2018, $750K per gamers.

$3.375M cap number in 2017(Only 8 games count on his RB)
$4.25M cap number in 2018

Also last UDFA terms.

Donavin Newsom $5K bonus, $25K base GTD
Lorenzo Jerome $8,500 bonus, $7,500 base GTD

Brings the total to $484K in GTD money spent on the initial UDFAs, none to the latest. $102,500 in bonus, and $381,500 in base(KD Cannon's included they're off the hook for the $40K).

Updated Cap Room: $62,140,469

Thank you...what do you have on:
G Brandon Fusco - Signed to a X year, $X deal
C Tim Barnes - Signed to a X year, $X deal
CB Will Davis - Signed to a 1-year deal
T Andrew Lauderdale - Signed to a 1-yrR deal

Fuaco- 1yr/$1.4M($1M base, $100K bonus, $300K LTBE Incentives)
Barnes - 1yr/$795K($775K base, $20K bonus, enough NLTBEs to disqualify him for a Minimum Benefits Deal)
Davis - 1yr/$615K($775K base, MSB deal)
Lauderdale - 2yr minimum deal($465K and $555K base salries
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok, confirmed that Dumervil's deal is 2yr $8M, $1M signing bonus, $500K option bonus this year, and $500K GTD in his base.

$2.25M base in 2017, and $2.75M in 2018, $750K per gamers.

$3.375M cap number in 2017(Only 8 games count on his RB)
$4.25M cap number in 2018

Also last UDFA terms.

Donavin Newsom $5K bonus, $25K base GTD
Lorenzo Jerome $8,500 bonus, $7,500 base GTD

Brings the total to $484K in GTD money spent on the initial UDFAs, none to the latest. $102,500 in bonus, and $381,500 in base(KD Cannon's included they're off the hook for the $40K).

Updated Cap Room: $62,140,469

Thank you...what do you have on:
G Brandon Fusco - Signed to a X year, $X deal
C Tim Barnes - Signed to a X year, $X deal
CB Will Davis - Signed to a 1-year deal
T Andrew Lauderdale - Signed to a 1-yrR deal

Fuaco- 1yr/$1.4M($1M base, $100K bonus, $300K LTBE Incentives)
Barnes - 1yr/$795K($775K base, $20K bonus, enough NLTBEs to disqualify him for a Minimum Benefits Deal)
Davis - 1yr/$615K($775K base, MSB deal)
Lauderdale - 2yr minimum deal($465K and $555K base salries

Thanks brother for all you do!

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Ok, confirmed that Dumervil's deal is 2yr $8M, $1M signing bonus, $500K option bonus this year, and $500K GTD in his base.

$2.25M base in 2017, and $2.75M in 2018, $750K per gamers.

$3.375M cap number in 2017(Only 8 games count on his RB)
$4.25M cap number in 2018

Also last UDFA terms.

Donavin Newsom $5K bonus, $25K base GTD
Lorenzo Jerome $8,500 bonus, $7,500 base GTD

Brings the total to $484K in GTD money spent on the initial UDFAs, none to the latest. $102,500 in bonus, and $381,500 in base(KD Cannon's included they're off the hook for the $40K).

Updated Cap Room: $62,140,469

Thank you...what do you have on:
G Brandon Fusco - Signed to a X year, $X deal
C Tim Barnes - Signed to a X year, $X deal
CB Will Davis - Signed to a 1-year deal
T Andrew Lauderdale - Signed to a 1-yrR deal

Fuaco- 1yr/$1.4M($1M base, $100K bonus, $300K LTBE Incentives)
Barnes - 1yr/$795K($775K base, $20K bonus, enough NLTBEs to disqualify him for a Minimum Benefits Deal)
Davis - 1yr/$615K($775K base, MSB deal)
Lauderdale - 2yr minimum deal($465K and $555K base salries

Thanks brother for all you do!


My pleasure man, love doing it, it's my passion along with the NFL Draft and scouting players(PigskinProspects.com of course lol).
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Can't Washington keep tagging Cousins as a no Free Agent

Yes but my understanding is that if they franchise him a 3rd year, he'd be making about 34.5 million. Aaron freaking Rogers makes what, 22/23?. At that point they will have paid out about 26mil a season and that's where negotiations have to start because the team has already proven that's where they value cousins by paying him that to begin with. My understanding is they can transition tag for just under 30mil.
[ Edited by WINiner on Jun 18, 2017 at 9:46 PM ]
Same from me, AB. Many thanks for not just your expertise, but also your hard work. And if you say it then that is gospel. We are all in your debt.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Can't Washington keep tagging Cousins as a no Free Agent

Yes but my understanding is that if they franchise him a 3rd year, he'd be making about 34.5 million. Aaron freaking Rogers makes what, 22/23?. At that point they will have paid out about 26mil a season and that's where negotiations have to start because the team has already proven that's where they value cousins by paying him that to begin with. My understanding is they can transition tag for just under 30mil.

Yes, they can tag him again for a 3rd time, but at around $35M, a Transition tag would cost less, but they'd not be able to get anything in return, as you don't get 2 1st's like with the franchise tag.

Also around $35M or even $30M is a lot on one player for 1 year.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I love ShanaLynch!

--- Update ---


Alright, so I had a FA plan coming in, so let's see if ShanaLynch followed a similar plan and where they are currently at. I noted some target free agents I wanted but the focus was really on the specific positions, scheme-fits and skill sets within these positions.

NC's 2017 Free Agent Targets --- Player Acquired:
QB Brian Hoyer --- Brian Hoyer --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
WILL Malcolm Smith --- Malcolm Smith --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
YWR Jeremy Kerley --- Jeremy Kerley --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
FB Patrick DiMarco/Kyle Juszczyk --- Kyle Juszczyk --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
LDE/5T Chris Jones (depth) --- Chris Jones --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
RB2 DuJuan Harris --- DuJuan Harris --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYER
RB1: LeGarrette Blount/Tim Hightower --- Tim Hightower & Kapri Bibbs --- SIGNED ACTUAL PLAYERS
C J.C. Tretter --- Jeremy Zuttah --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
ZWR Kenny Britt/Terrelle Pryor --- Pierre Garcon --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
XWR Ted Ginn Jr. (depth) --- Marquise Goodwin, DeAndre Carter & Aldrick Robinson --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYERS
QB Ryan Nassib (depth) --- Matt Barkley --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
MIKE/ST Nick Bellore (depth) --- Brock Coyle, Don Jones II & Dekota Watson --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYERS
DE: Jared Odrick/Jacquies Smith --- Elvis Dumervil --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
LG: Austin Pasztor --- Tim Barnes --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
RG Andrew Tiller (depth) --- Brandon Fusco --- SIGNED LIKE-PLAYER
NT/1T Brandon Williams/Dontari Poe --- Earl Mitchell --- SIGNED SECOND TIER PLAYER
RCB A.J. Bouye (starter) --- Will Davis --- SIGNED THIRD TIER PLAYER

Additional acquisitions:
PK Robbie Gould (starter)
SCB K'Waun Williams (starter)
ILB Carl Bradford (depth)
TE Logan Paulsen (depth)
MIKE Jayson DiManche (depth)
T/G Garry Gilliam (starter/depth)

Free agent players we should consider if the price is right:
NT: Johnathan Hankins NYG 25 / Cam Thoma LAR 30
WILL/SAM/MIKE: Zach Brown BUF 27 / Gerald Hodges SF 26 / Rey Malaluga CIN 30
ZWR: Michael Floyd NE 27 / Rod Streater SF 29
ST Returner: ? (Patterson gone)

Overall:
So far, ShanaLynch have put themselves in great position for the draft via free agency. In free agency, on offense, they immediately addressed QB, FB, C, X, Y & ZWR's, TE depth and on defense, they addressed WILL, SCB & MIKE depth/ST and on special teams, a PK. They've made a total of 42 transactions to date. That's dropping 19 and acquiring 23. We can expect 10 draft picks and 10-15 more UDFA's.

What's next:
In free agency, we weren't able to get a dominant NT/1T in Brandon Williams or Dontari Poe but ShanaLynch were able to get a second tier player in Earl Mitchell. We also tried for some top CB's but lost out on A.J. Bouye. We could certainly attack the SAM with a player like Kevin Minter or at least add depth players like with Gerald Hodges & Sean Spence. On offense, it wouldn't hurt to grab a RB2 like DuJuan Harris (signed) but the draft is deep here too or maybe add some RG depth with Andrew Tiller or ZWR depth with our own Rod Streater.

All these free agency moves means with the #2 pick in the draft, we can now address QB, a true ZWR, CB, DL, ER, LB or S and add depth for OL & RB1 & RB2 later. And with a deep TE class, we could go that route too for two-TE sets (esp. if we can't get a true ZWR).

Draft Position Strengths: DL, ER, S, CB, TE, RB
Draft Position Weaknesses: QB, OL, LB

Well done ShanaLynch (and I know you aren't done!)

Holy crap this was fun to update and revisit. Throw in the draft on top of these original targeted free agent acquisitions and they covered every need save for FQB and ZWR and a young ER with first round talent. Hell, they actually attacked more than I had hoped for (i.e. got 3 more starters and more depth).

Job well done ShanaLynch!

One of the offshoots of such a well executed plan, is to note the age of the projected starters and overall, 53.

We now have an average team age of 26.

Clearly, one of the goals was to bring in many veterans who were lost in the 2015 'off season from hell.'

Naturally, the WCO is more cerebral and needs more experience. Therefore, the average age here is 27 now. And not one single player is expected to start as a rookie. Conversely, the defense is made up of talented youth and their average age is only 25 with as many as 5 starters being rookies.

What I found interesting is that we only have 10 total players 30 or older. But none of them should be affected by age...for instance, our three oldest players are Gould, Dumervil and Brooks. 1 is a kicker and the other 2 will play as specialists.

Another thing to note is that where we now have a veteran starter, we have youth behind them learning or youth starting with veteran depth behind them.

On offense, the 11 'starters' will now average 28 (goes up a full year) while the defense remains at 25. To me, this speaks directly to the offensive and defensive systems and what is needed to run both.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 27, 2017 at 10:21 AM ]
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