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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Interesting, Command, to see the "projected" vs actual. Based on what you guesstimated, your percentage and acumen on both were superb. You had a great overall view before anything actually came down. The one thing of interest was the projected surfeit of available ERs, which was true, but the standouts....not so many. Still and all, looking at what we did, ERs may turn out a lot better than we expected, since we really couldn't address that until taking care of the big needs, DL(best in draft), LB(again, consensus best in draft), CB (which was of utmost need), raw but potential FR QB (and it turned out the ONLY one kyle would have drafted...so john took him about 5 picks early, back into late rd 3....now there's a GM who goes to bat for his HC), then we filled in at RB, WR, TE, ER....i missed two...and also John got us 2 early picks in rd 2 and 3 next yr.
The key element to making this all work was the pre-planning of kyle and john, whereby they established there was no #1 FR QB, and we couldn't nail down a #1 WR or we would have had to pass on Solomon, Foster, and who knows what else. Leaving the FR Qb and #1 WR until next yr was a brilliant strategic move, which i was a bit uncertain of initially, but once draft started, it was obviously the key move to have been made. That alone sold me on our new GM/HC guys. Hats off to you NC for your prescience and pre draft call. Oh, forgot to mention that besides shedding over 50% dead wood of our lineup, Zut for Center, was a key FA hire. That truly solidified an OL that was shaky there. Now if kilgore is injured we got two backups AT LEAST. Also the drafting of DJ Jones is going to end up being well worth it, as was our "Crossed off the list RB"....who kyle made the case for and once John spoke with him, put him back on the list...we took him in Rd 5....and expect a starter here next yr, and a 1-2 punch at RB this yr. The FAing of The Juice Check (OW) was another brilliant move, because this one in particular had 40+ receptions last yr, being key in Kyle's WCO.
Other noteworthy moves were first parting ways with virtually all our WRs except kerley, and replacing with 4 guys who are all way more talented than the dead wood, or injured wood. Depth at LB, PR, STs were other places of note that we improved. Had we taken Trubisk( or pick your other poor choice) and then traded the farm to get a #1 WR if that even was possible, turned out to be a case of reading the tea leaves incredibly well , and instead of FR QB(of which there were none) and a #1 WR, we basically took a huge chunk out of the other 20 odd holes we had. Anyone looking at this FA and draft that didn't give it a 5 star rating, really wasn't paying attn. Amazing on how many of these you connected NC...well done, my man, really well done.
Is that crazy!? As fans, we all have 'a plan' in our heads of what the FO should do in the off season but rarely does it ever materialize. This was almost Madden-like.
This is the fun part for me now; taking FA and then [attacking the draft]:
What's next:
In free agency, we weren't able to get a dominant NT/1T in Brandon Williams or Dontari Poe but ShanaLynch were able to get a second tier player in Earl Mitchell [DRAFTED D.J. JONES]. We also tried for some top CB's but lost out on A.J. Bouye [DRAFTED AHKELLO WITHERSPOON]. We could certainly attack the SAM with a player like Kevin Minter or at least add depth players like with Gerald Hodges & Sean Spence [DRAFTED REUBEN FOSTER]. On offense, it wouldn't hurt to grab a RB2 like DuJuan Harris [DRAFTED JOE WILLIAMS] but the draft is deep here too or maybe add some RG depth with Andrew Tiller or ZWR depth with our own Rod Streater.
All these free agency moves means with the #2 pick in the draft, we can now address QB [DRAFTED C.J. BEATHARD], a true ZWR [NONE / DRAFTED YWR TRENT TAYLOR], CB [DRAFTED AHKELLO WITHERSPOON], DL [DRAFTED SOLOMON THOMAS], ER [DRAFTED PITA TAUMOEPENU], LB [DRAFTED REUBEN FOSTER] or S [DRAFTED ADRIAN COLBERT / UDFA LORENZO JEROME] and add depth for OL [NONE] & RB1 & RB2 [DRAFTED JOE WILLIAMS / TRADED FOR KAPRI BIBBS / UDFA MATT BREIDA] later. And with a deep TE [DRAFTED GEORGE KITTLE] class, we could go that route too for two-TE sets (esp. if we can't get a true ZWR).
Draft Position Strengths: DL, ER, S, CB, TE, RB
Draft Position Weaknesses: QB, OL, LB
At the end of the day, we were never going to fill every hole but you have to admit, the 'new' FO did a hell of a job executing their plan. Next off season, we can focus on obtaining (Kirk Cousins) in free agency or drafting a potential FQB (we have the ammunition to move up if we want now), a true ZWR in free agency or the draft and/or attack the ER in free agency or the draft.
; we've addressed it all and I'm excited for a fresh season.Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Interesting, Command, to see the "projected" vs actual. Based on what you guesstimated, your percentage and acumen on both were superb. You had a great overall view before anything actually came down. The one thing of interest was the projected surfeit of available ERs, which was true, but the standouts....not so many. Still and all, looking at what we did, ERs may turn out a lot better than we expected, since we really couldn't address that until taking care of the big needs, DL(best in draft), LB(again, consensus best in draft), CB (which was of utmost need), raw but potential FR QB (and it turned out the ONLY one kyle would have drafted...so john took him about 5 picks early, back into late rd 3....now there's a GM who goes to bat for his HC), then we filled in at RB, WR, TE, ER....i missed two...and also John got us 2 early picks in rd 2 and 3 next yr.
The key element to making this all work was the pre-planning of kyle and john, whereby they established there was no #1 FR QB, and we couldn't nail down a #1 WR or we would have had to pass on Solomon, Foster, and who knows what else. Leaving the FR Qb and #1 WR until next yr was a brilliant strategic move, which i was a bit uncertain of initially, but once draft started, it was obviously the key move to have been made. That alone sold me on our new GM/HC guys. Hats off to you NC for your prescience and pre draft call. Oh, forgot to mention that besides shedding over 50% dead wood of our lineup, Zut for Center, was a key FA hire. That truly solidified an OL that was shaky there. Now if kilgore is injured we got two backups AT LEAST. Also the drafting of DJ Jones is going to end up being well worth it, as was our "Crossed off the list RB"....who kyle made the case for and once John spoke with him, put him back on the list...we took him in Rd 5....and expect a starter here next yr, and a 1-2 punch at RB this yr. The FAing of The Juice Check (OW) was another brilliant move, because this one in particular had 40+ receptions last yr, being key in Kyle's WCO.
Other noteworthy moves were first parting ways with virtually all our WRs except kerley, and replacing with 4 guys who are all way more talented than the dead wood, or injured wood. Depth at LB, PR, STs were other places of note that we improved. Had we taken Trubisk( or pick your other poor choice) and then traded the farm to get a #1 WR if that even was possible, turned out to be a case of reading the tea leaves incredibly well , and instead of FR QB(of which there were none) and a #1 WR, we basically took a huge chunk out of the other 20 odd holes we had. Anyone looking at this FA and draft that didn't give it a 5 star rating, really wasn't paying attn. Amazing on how many of these you connected NC...well done, my man, really well done.
+Uno.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:
Though we have those three weaknesses... I'm praying on paper at the moment, we'll be okay for this upcoming year.
So thus all in all... Btw, were not done making moves yet; we've addressed it all and I'm excited for a fresh season.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Though we have those three weaknesses... I'm praying on paper at the moment, we'll be okay for this upcoming year.
So thus all in all... Btw, were not done making moves yet
Yeah, Selah will do what he can to create a consistent edge rush and we'll have to wait and see if we have a couple guys who can do the job (so that's undetermined). ZWR, Garcon will most likely play and be more than adequate (albeit, not ideal) and FQB, well, let's be real...that's the FO's #1 goal. But Hoyer has a license to play very well esp. now that he's fully versed within this offense. So I agree...all were addressed in some fashion.
Next phase will be to upgrade and continue to add impact players with added competition.
Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Wouldn't be cool AF if had ratings Saleh has on the SAM LB and ratings as a pure pass rusher. I'd really like to know how much of a difference there is in gaps.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by SmokeCrabtrees:Wouldn't be cool AF if had ratings Saleh has on the SAM LB and ratings as a pure pass rusher. I'd really like to know how much of a difference there is in gaps.
Those would be some advanced stats to have access too.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:Updates:I have us at $65,054,969 after Solomon Thomas signs, includes All above, and Beathard's deal.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:Not confirmed but it looks like Dumervil signed a 2yr deal, with the 2018 year being an option year, got $1.5M FULLY GTD. Salaries of $3.375M in 2017 and $4.75M in 2018(Option year, which they would to pay him a $500K option bonus, included in cap figure).
Again, not confirmed, I'm trying to confirm it, the NFLPA database is yet again not updating.
If true, with all signed, including Solomon Thomas, we're $62,144,969 under the cap, which is a huge number still.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Not confirmed but it looks like Dumervil signed a 2yr deal, with the 2018 year being an option year, got $1.5M FULLY GTD. Salaries of $3.375M in 2017 and $4.75M in 2018(Option year, which they would to pay him a $500K option bonus, included in cap figure).
Again, not confirmed, I'm trying to confirm it, the NFLPA database is yet again not updating.
If true, with all signed, including Solomon Thomas, we're $62,144,969 under the cap, which is a huge number still.
Awesome...hit me up when confirmed and I'll add. But yeah, $62+M is still ridiculous.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Not confirmed but it looks like Dumervil signed a 2yr deal, with the 2018 year being an option year, got $1.5M FULLY GTD. Salaries of $3.375M in 2017 and $4.75M in 2018(Option year, which they would to pay him a $500K option bonus, included in cap figure).
Again, not confirmed, I'm trying to confirm it, the NFLPA database is yet again not updating.
If true, with all signed, including Solomon Thomas, we're $62,144,969 under the cap, which is a huge number still.
Awesome...hit me up when confirmed and I'll add. But yeah, $62+M is still ridiculous.
Will do for sure NC. agreed $62M is a lot.
Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Not confirmed but it looks like Dumervil signed a 2yr deal, with the 2018 year being an option year, got $1.5M FULLY GTD. Salaries of $3.375M in 2017 and $4.75M in 2018(Option year, which they would to pay him a $500K option bonus, included in cap figure).
Again, not confirmed, I'm trying to confirm it, the NFLPA database is yet again not updating.
If true, with all signed, including Solomon Thomas, we're $62,144,969 under the cap, which is a huge number still.
Awesome...hit me up when confirmed and I'll add. But yeah, $62+M is still ridiculous.
Will do for sure NC. agreed $62M is a lot.
What are they going to do with $62 million dollars?