2017 Team Information (Needs)

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by WolfTotem:

Falcon's final 53 numbers from last year might give us a rough guide to what we will be looking at, at least on O.

QB - 2 (Surprising that one, does Beathard show enough to push Barkley off the roster? The contract is doable think)
RB - 3 (A brutal fight if we roll with 3)
FB - 1
TE - 4
WR - 6
OL - 9

Offense: 25

DE - 5
DT - 4
LB - 7
CB - 4 (low CB count, but I'd say 9 DBs overall seems about right)
S - 5

Defense: 25

P,K,LS - 3

Source: http://atlantafalcons.blog.ajc.com/2016/09/03/a-quick-look-at-the-falcons-53-man-depth-chart/
http://bloggingdirty.com/2016/09/04/atlanta-falcons-what-to-make-of-the-final-53-man-roster/

When you have Matt Ryan then a vet like schaub it makes it easy to roll with 2 QBs

Yeah Beathard is too much of a project right now and Hoyer has an injury history. No way I see us only running with Hoyer and a developmental​ rookie.

I could see us carrying 3TE or 5WR to make up for it

Imo, the team may go into the season with 8 offensive lineman to free up a spot somewhere. We did the same thing in Harbaugh's first season. We have currently Barnes, Zuttah, and Kilgore who can play any of the interior positions and Beadles who can play anywhere on the line. Then eventhough Gilliam doesn't have that much experience on the left side he can play either tackle position. That kind of versatility is a great weapon to have on cut day.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
So it looks like Jihaad Pretlow is a tryout, and Andrew Elde isn't among those 18 expected to sign according to Maiocco, instead he has ASU OL Evan Goodman in there.

My man, that still gives me 91. You too?

Originally posted by WolfTotem:
Falcon's final 53 numbers from last year might give us a rough guide to what we will be looking at, at least on O.

QB - 2 (Surprising that one, does Beathard show enough to push Barkley off the roster? The contract is doable think)
RB - 3 (A brutal fight if we roll with 3)
FB - 1
TE - 4
WR - 6
OL - 9

Offense: 25

DE - 5
DT - 4
LB - 7
CB - 4 (low CB count, but I'd say 9 DBs overall seems about right)
S - 5

Defense: 25

P,K,LS - 3

Source: http://atlantafalcons.blog.ajc.com/2016/09/03/a-quick-look-at-the-falcons-53-man-depth-chart/
http://bloggingdirty.com/2016/09/04/atlanta-falcons-what-to-make-of-the-final-53-man-roster/

Good reference. This is what I have for now...

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Brian Hoyer; Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Kapri Bibbs
RB2: Joe Williams
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; *George Kittle
TE: Vance McDonald; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Pierre Garçon; Marquise Goodwin
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Aldrick Robinson
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; Brandon Fusco
C: Jeremy Zuttah; Tim Barnes
RG: Joshua Garnett; Daniel Kilgore
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

* OW = Offensive Weapon

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/5T: *Solomon Thomas; Quinton Dial
LDE/6T: *Tank Carradine
NT/1T: D.J. Jones; *Earl Mitchell
RDT/3T: *DeForest Bucker; *Ronald Blair
RDE/5T: *Arik Armstead
ER: Aaron Lynch; Eli Harold, Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
SAM: Malcolm Smith
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Dontae Johnson
S/CB: Will Redmond; K'Waun Williams
LCB: Rashard Robinson; Keith Reaser
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid

* Interior Rushers
ER = Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

PR/KOR: Jeremy Kerley & Trent Taylor

Most of the conversation right now is on D and deservedly so. Still, it is truly impressive to realize that last yr at this time we had soft spot at Center, and back ups of Pears and Martin, two guys who rarely got a good block once they got PT. The OL was on the way last yr, but this yr...it is going to be a force to reckon wth. And our backups are multi-positional, making it possible to carry one less guy if we get in a bind elsewhere. I wonder just how many fans appeciate the job kyle and john have done with the OL, which at first glance doesn't SEEM that much different than last yr, but definitely is. Adding the OW was a sterling move also. All Joe Williams has to do is stay on a good track and run like he did his last 8-10 games or so. Could he be BETTER than Hyde? We will find that out shortly. But it's possible.

As of the list above that is 12 of 24 Offensive players that are new. On D i got 10 of 26 new. Unbelieveable.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WolfTotem:

Falcon's final 53 numbers from last year might give us a rough guide to what we will be looking at, at least on O.

QB - 2 (Surprising that one, does Beathard show enough to push Barkley off the roster? The contract is doable think)
RB - 3 (A brutal fight if we roll with 3)
FB - 1
TE - 4
WR - 6
OL - 9

Offense: 25

DE - 5
DT - 4
LB - 7
CB - 4 (low CB count, but I'd say 9 DBs overall seems about right)
S - 5

Defense: 25

P,K,LS - 3

Source: http://atlantafalcons.blog.ajc.com/2016/09/03/a-quick-look-at-the-falcons-53-man-depth-chart/
http://bloggingdirty.com/2016/09/04/atlanta-falcons-what-to-make-of-the-final-53-man-roster/

Good reference. This is what I have for now...

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Brian Hoyer; Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Kapri Bibbs
RB2: Joe Williams
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; *George Kittle
TE: Vance McDonald; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Pierre Garçon; Marquise Goodwin
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Aldrick Robinson
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; Brandon Fusco
C: Jeremy Zuttah; Tim Barnes
RG: Joshua Garnett; Daniel Kilgore
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

* OW = Offensive Weapon

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/5T: *Solomon Thomas; Quinton Dial
LDE/6T: *Tank Carradine
NT/1T: D.J. Jones; *Earl Mitchell
RDT/3T: *DeForest Bucker; *Ronald Blair
RDE/5T: *Arik Armstead
ER: Aaron Lynch; Eli Harold, Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
SAM: Malcolm Smith
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Dontae Johnson
S/CB: Will Redmond; K'Waun Williams
LCB: Rashard Robinson; Keith Reaser
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid

* Interior Rushers
ER = Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

PR/KOR: Jeremy Kerley & Trent Taylor

Can't see that many corners making it. Williams or Reaser won't stick IMO.

Pita is raw so he could go on the PS. Replacing them I would add another WR (Cannon or Smelter) and RB (Hightower).

Also, too many interior OL. Gilliam is our swing but I think we need to keep another outside guy. Theus or one of the UDFAs like Magnuson would get the nod for me.

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Brian Hoyer; Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Tim Hightower
RB2: Joe Williams; Kapri Bibbs
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; *George Kittle
TE: Vance McDonald; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Pierre Garçon; Aldrick Robinson
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Marquise Goodwin
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; Brandon Fusco
C: Jeremy Zuttah; Daniel Kilgore
RG: Joshua Garnett; Daniel Kilgore
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

* OW = Offensive Weapon

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/5T: *Solomon Thomas; Quinton Dial
LDE/6T: *Tank Carradine
NT/1T: Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT/3T: *DeForest Bucker; *Ronald Blair
RDE/5T: *Arik Armstead
ER: Aaron Lynch; Eli Harold
SAM: Malcolm Smith/ Ahmad Brooks
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Brock Coyle
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Dontae Johnson; Ahkello Witherspoon
S/CB: K'Waun Williams; Will Redmond
LCB: Rashard Robinson; Keith Reaser
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid

* Interior Rushers
ER = Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

PR/KOR: Jeremy Kerley & Trent Taylor

Heres mine for now. NC I'm feeling kinda lazy, so I just copied and pasted your format and positions (Thanks ) and I made two corrections on who I think will make the team and a couple changes in the starting line up.

EDIT: Couple things to add here. I think Coyle will make the team for his special teams ability, as well as his knowledge and experience within the new system. I think Brooks makes it because he offers the closest thing to a true SAM that we have and can move to the edge on third downs. He also may infact still be our best edge rusher. Carradine and Harold haven't lit the room up yet. Lynch is always closer to not playing than actually playing for various reasons. Obviously all of this is a rough estimate since we are yet to see camps and such, plus injuries are inevitable. At this moment before all of that, I think two of the last positions on the defense comes down to Carradine, Watson, and Harold. I'm calling​ two of them in and one of them out. We'll see how it shakes loose.

On offense, as insane as it sounds, I haven't completely written off Bruce Ellington yet. I'm still projecting five receivers, 4 rb's, and 8 olineman. There's so much versatility on the oline. Kilgore and Zuttah can play anywhere on the interior. Beadles can play anywhere on the line. Gilliam has swing tackle potential. On the receivers, to me the last receiver spot will come down to possibly Ellington vs Taylor. Can Ellington stay healthy? Is he healthy? Who will add the most value as a returner? But let's not forget in the meantime that pre injury last year Ellington was the most consistent receiver we heard about during camp and was reportedly​ tearing the Broncos up during scrimmages.

All in all, I think it's a much improved roster over last season. Still lots more room for growth, but an improvement nonetheless.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by WolfTotem:
Falcon's final 53 numbers from last year might give us a rough guide to what we will be looking at, at least on O.

QB - 2 (Surprising that one, does Beathard show enough to push Barkley off the roster? The contract is doable think)
RB - 3 (A brutal fight if we roll with 3)
FB - 1
TE - 4
WR - 6
OL - 9

Offense: 25

DE - 5
DT - 4
LB - 7
CB - 4 (low CB count, but I'd say 9 DBs overall seems about right)
S - 5

Defense: 25

P,K,LS - 3

Source: http://atlantafalcons.blog.ajc.com/2016/09/03/a-quick-look-at-the-falcons-53-man-depth-chart/
http://bloggingdirty.com/2016/09/04/atlanta-falcons-what-to-make-of-the-final-53-man-roster/

Good reference. This is what I have for now...

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Brian Hoyer; Matt Barkley & C.J. Beathard
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Kapri Bibbs
RB2: Joe Williams
OW: *Kyle Juszczyk; *George Kittle
TE: Vance McDonald; Logan Paulsen
XWR: Pierre Garçon; Marquise Goodwin
YWR: Jeremy Kerley; Trent Taylor
ZWR: Aldrick Robinson
LOT: Joe Staley
LG: Zane Beadles; Brandon Fusco
C: Jeremy Zuttah; Tim Barnes
RG: Joshua Garnett; Daniel Kilgore
ROT: Trenton Brown; Gary Gilliam

* OW = Offensive Weapon

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE/5T: *Solomon Thomas; Quinton Dial
LDE/6T: *Tank Carradine
NT/1T: D.J. Jones; *Earl Mitchell
RDT/3T: *DeForest Bucker; *Ronald Blair
RDE/5T: *Arik Armstead
ER: Aaron Lynch; Eli Harold, Dekoda Watson & Pita Taumoepenu
SAM: Malcolm Smith
MIKE: Navarro Bowman
WILL: Reuben Foster; Ray-Ray Armstrong
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Dontae Johnson
S/CB: Will Redmond; K'Waun Williams
LCB: Rashard Robinson; Keith Reaser
FS: Jimmie Ward; Lorenzo Jerome
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Eric Reid

* Interior Rushers
ER = Edge Rushers

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

PR/KOR: Jeremy Kerley & Trent Taylor

2 things.... why use OW? just makes it confusing Juice is the fb. 2 Aaron Lynch is not starting for this team. Book it AA will be the LEO

The WR starters and depth are the unstable group right now. There than garcon, all other spots are up for grabs.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Heres mine for now. NC I'm feeling kinda lazy, so I just copied and pasted your format and positions (Thanks ) and I made two corrections on who I think will make the team and a couple changes in the starting line up.

By all means! No worries...

Originally posted by fan49:
2 things.... why use OW? just makes it confusing Juice is the fb. 2 Aaron Lynch is not starting for this team. Book it AA will be the LEO

Sorry...just personal preference given that both Juszczyk & Kittle will have some standard FB and move-TE jobs, split back, slot WR and outside WR responsibilities...FAR more than your standard TE and FB. AA is listed as the RDE/5T (i.e. the LEO on base running downs). Lynch is listed as one of the Edge Rushers...ER's come in mostly on passing downs and rush from the SAM (left end) and right (right end/LEO).

Originally posted by fan49:
2 things.... why use OW? just makes it confusing Juice is the fb. 2 Aaron Lynch is not starting for this team. Book it AA will be the LEO

Sorry...just personal preference given that both Juszczyk & Kittle will have some standard FB and move-TE jobs, split back, slot WR and outside WR responsibilities...FAR more than your standard TE and FB. AA is listed as the RDE/5T (i.e. the LEO on base running downs). Lynch is listed as one of the Edge Rushers...ER's come in mostly on passing downs and rush from the SAM (left end) and right (right end/LEO).

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
Can't see that many corners making it. Williams or Reaser won't stick IMO.

Pita is raw so he could go on the PS. Replacing them I would add another WR (Cannon or Smelter) and RB (Hightower).

Also, too many interior OL. Gilliam is our swing but I think we need to keep another outside guy. Theus or one of the UDFAs like Magnuson would get the nod for me.

Yeah, Lorenzo may be out as a DB (although they need ST players)...maybe add in another WR like you say...Cannon has a legit chance or if Smelter can finally be a true Z, that would be huge for us. Maybe keep a 4th RB like you say...although, one could always stash one on the PS and call up as needed. 9-10 OL is pretty standard; Kyle kept 9 last year. I love Magnuson as well. He can play T or G...big value there but at who's expense?

That said, TC hasn't even started and we probably already know 95% of the roster...just a few things, as noted, that we need to figure out.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:

Can't see that many corners making it. Williams or Reaser won't stick IMO.

Pita is raw so he could go on the PS. Replacing them I would add another WR (Cannon or Smelter) and RB (Hightower).

Also, too many interior OL. Gilliam is our swing but I think we need to keep another outside guy. Theus or one of the UDFAs like Magnuson would get the nod for me.

Yeah, Lorenzo may be out as a DB (although they need ST players)...maybe add in another WR like you say...Cannon has a legit chance or if Smelter can finally be a true Z, that would be huge for us. Maybe keep a 4th RB like you say...although, one could always stash one on the PS and call up as needed. 9-10 OL is pretty standard; Kyle kept 9 last year. I love Magnuson as well. He can play T or G...big value there but at who's expense?

That said, TC hasn't even started and we probably already know 95% of the roster...just a few things, as noted, that we need to figure out.

I would keep Lorenzo over Williams or Reaser at this point. Reaser may stick because he can play inside and outside.

I think Barnes is the odd man out on your list. Zuttah, Kilgore, and Beadles can fill in at C. Magnuson has a real shot because of his versatility and most analysts thought he would be drafted.

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Ninerfan84:
Can't see that many corners making it. Williams or Reaser won't stick IMO.

Pita is raw so he could go on the PS. Replacing them I would add another WR (Cannon or Smelter) and RB (Hightower).

Also, too many interior OL. Gilliam is our swing but I think we need to keep another outside guy. Theus or one of the UDFAs like Magnuson would get the nod for me.

Yeah, Lorenzo may be out as a DB (although they need ST players)...maybe add in another WR like you say...Cannon has a legit chance or if Smelter can finally be a true Z, that would be huge for us. Maybe keep a 4th RB like you say...although, one could always stash one on the PS and call up as needed. 9-10 OL is pretty standard; Kyle kept 9 last year. I love Magnuson as well. He can play T or G...big value there but at who's expense?

That said, TC hasn't even started and we probably already know 95% of the roster...just a few things, as noted, that we need to figure out.

I would keep Lorenzo over Williams or Reaser at this point. Reaser may stick because he can play inside and outside.

I think Barnes is the odd man out on your list. Zuttah, Kilgore, and Beadles can fill in at C. Magnuson has a real shot because of his versatility and most analysts thought he would be drafted.

Yeah, good point on the veteran vs. rookie battles...esp. with this new regime; they'd love to have the rookies beat out the veterans here.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Sorry...just personal preference given that both Juszczyk & Kittle will have some standard FB and move-TE jobs, split back, slot WR and outside WR responsibilities...FAR more than your standard TE and FB. AA is listed as the RDE/5T (i.e. the LEO on base running downs). Lynch is listed as one of the Edge Rushers...ER's come in mostly on passing downs and rush from the SAM (left end) and right (right end/LEO).

Damn the LEO name still bugs the s**t out. But that's their parlance....however it will always be the elephant to me. I hear though that both names come from the same thing though:

L(inebacker)E(nd)O
E(nd)L(inebacker)EPHANT